More Outragous 'HHH Did It' Claims

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

It's not just a board fad. It's a way of life.

HHH did it. It's not a question of if, but what and when.

What are some of the more ... questionable claims you've heard about WWE's resident Dr. Claw, Triple H?

- HHH was the man who decided that RVD, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, Chris Jericho, Hurricane Helms, Randy Orton all had to 'do the job', thus ruining their careers forever. He also put over Umaga by losing to him via a clean pinfall, but we can only assume that this is merely a plot that hasn't revealed itself as of yet.

- HHH put over C.M. Punk at Survivor Series, only to sabotage him by making him lose a match, thus robbing C.M. Punk of his precious heat. So why would he put Punk over in the first place? To make sure nobody knew it was him that 'buried' Punk, that's why! That HHH sure is clever.

- HHH injured himself on purpose at New Year's Revolution so that RAW would go down the toilet, setting up his big return and a huge fan following for the 'Man Who Saved RAW' in a few months.

[carter 15]

He only became Champion because he "married the bosses daughter". The man was a 4-5 time World Champ before that happened DAMNIT

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

admiralcrunchy said:

Just remember, he is the ONLY guy to make the World HEavyweight title look SUPERIOR to the WWE title. Honesly, who else even came close to doing that?

I honestly have a huge amount of respect and appreciation for Triple H. I think he's top drawer.

Which is why all the venom directed at him dismays me.

Of course, I don't REALLY like Triple H. It's all just an elaborate Mind Game on his part.

[EJS]

admiralcrunchy said:

Just remember, he is the ONLY guy to make the World HEavyweight title look SUPERIOR to the WWE title. Honesly, who else even came close to doing that?

Well to be fair, thats only because that was the title on Raw. And Raw gets more attention than Smackdown, so more often than not it gets the PPV main events. If Cena were "World Champion" instead of "WWE Champion" he'd still be headlining everything.

[Ultimo Chocula]

Before he got hurt I remember a lot of bile heading toward Trips way. Now he's getting nothing but love. Wow.

[Lt. Palumbo]

Triple H made the network change the ~name of Parker Lewis Can't Lose, thus ending Lewis' two year undefeated streak

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

ultimochocula said:

Before he got hurt I remember a lot of bile heading toward Trips way. Now he's getting nothing but love. Wow.

And you know, I shouldn't be surprised at this, but I've seen a number of people who were happy that he was injured?

I don't want to spoil the (hopefully) fun mood of this thread, but for God's sake, get your head out of your ass, realize that wrestling is a work and show some compassion for a fellow human being!

[-Lithium-]

vanvader said:

HHH was the man who decided that RVD, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, Chris Jericho, Hurricane Helms, Randy Orton all had to 'do the job',

Everyones gonna deny it, but most of this board prolly said the same thing 3-4 years ago...

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

admiralcrunchy said:

hadesgigas said:

Well to be fair, thats only because that was the title on Raw. And Raw gets more attention than Smackdown, so more often than not it gets the PPV main events. If Cena were "World Champion" instead of "WWE Champion" he'd still be headlining everything.

Not really, I mean to me Benoit, Orton or Goldberg never really made me feel like their reign was significant. Triple H really cemented what a champion should be; driven. I always looked at the WWE title as the more legit aside from JBL's reign (which was still decent). The only person to come close is Edge, which if given a reign like Triple H, could be very very good.

I have to agree with you there. For a lot of guys, the belt just seems like a prop. But Triple H honestly made me believe that he valued it more than anything else in the whole world.

[JMA]

Outrageous Triple H Claims:

He'll do a better job than Vince when he takes over.

He's the sole reason RAW is bad.

He's one of the greatest wrestlers ever.

He only became a main eventer because of who he's married to.

He respects the business more than any other wrestler.

He's secretly gay due to being a fan of bodybuilding and having sex with Chyna.

He doesn't hold wrestlers down.

He holds EVERY wrestler down.

He holds down wrestlers for the "greater good" of the company and not out of self-interest.

[Ultimo Chocula]

vanvader said:

ultimochocula said:

Before he got hurt I remember a lot of bile heading toward Trips way. Now he's getting nothing but love. Wow.

And you know, I shouldn't be surprised at this, but I've seen a number of people who were happy that he was injured?

I don't want to spoil the (hopefully) fun mood of this thread, but for God's sake, get your head out of your ass, realize that wrestling is a work and show some compassion for a fellow human being!

I'm not happy he's injured, I'm just making a comment on the IWC at large.

[skiller]

One thing hat has annoyed me about Triple H, is the fact that ever since 2002, he's always been billed in the Wrestlemania main event title match. UIt's was really rediculous when his match was given the final slot at WM22 over the royal rumble winner's match.

I don't know if he has any sort of control over this, but it's just become really annoying. It's even more worrying that he was rumoured to face Cena for the title AGAIN this year.

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

ultimochocula said:

vanvader said:

And you know, I shouldn't be surprised at this, but I've seen a number of people who were happy that he was injured?

I don't want to spoil the (hopefully) fun mood of this thread, but for God's sake, get your head out of your ass, realize that wrestling is a work and show some compassion for a fellow human being!

I'm not happy he's injured, I'm just making a comment on the IWC at large.

I definately was not pointing that accusation at you. I'm just saying that I've seen others voice that opinion. It's disheartening.

[JMA]

I think it sucks that he got injured and I wish him a speedy recovery. That being said, I still think he's a dick.

You can not like Triple H and still feel bad for the guy. It's not an either/or situation.

[Ultimo Chocula]

vanvader said:

ultimochocula said:

I'm not happy he's injured, I'm just making a comment on the IWC at large.

I definately was not pointing that accusation at you. I'm just saying that I've seen others voice that opinion. It's disheartening.

I see. Sorry about that.

Well now that is disheartening. Shame.

[MGH]

I'll just say this. He does get a lot of crap thrown his way that isn't deserving. The claims that what happened to Punk from SS through D2D were HHH's fault were ridiculous. Everytime someone jobs that shouldn't in the company doesn't mean HHH was behind it.

But at the same time, I'm not naive or blind enough to not think that at times where there is smoke there is fire.

[JMA]

admiralcrunchy said:

jma said:

Outrageous Triple H Claims:

He's one of the greatest wrestlers ever.

From a business standpoint he IS one of the greatest.

Of course it'd be silly to consider ACTUAL wrestling as the feat.

Business standpoint? Are you referring to drawing power or something else?

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jma said:

admiralcrunchy said:

From a business standpoint he IS one of the greatest.

Of course it'd be silly to consider ACTUAL wrestling as the feat.

Business standpoint? Are you referring to drawing power or something else?

Being around as long as he has and putting on good to great matches and television in general has to count for something.

If anything, he's always been a solid backbone of WWE. You can always rely on HHH for a decent to great feud, a good interview, a good match. He doesn't have a perfect record, but he's hit more than he's missed, in my view.

[JMA]

vanvader said:

jma said:

Business standpoint? Are you referring to drawing power or something else?

Being around as long as he has and putting on good to great matches and television in general has to count for something.

If anything, he's always been a solid backbone of WWE. You can always rely on HHH for a decent to great feud, a good interview, a good match. He doesn't have a perfect record, but he's hit more than he's missed, in my view.

I don't disagree with anything you said. Triple H has certainly paid his dues and earned his position as a main event. You won't ever see me arguing that he doesn't deserve a top spot in the company.

I don't think he should have THE top spot, though. Traditionally, Triple H draws best when he has an opponent that the fans (regular fans, not smarks) see as being "better" than him. (I'm not referring to wrestlting talent here. In this case, "better" means that the fans believe his opponent can beat him decisively in a match.) When Triple H is presented as unbeatable or as the focus of the show, ratings suffer.

Triple H should be the antagonist of the super-babyface rather than what Ric Flair was in the NWA (where Flair was the real star). And by "super-babyface," I mean someone the crowd loves and who is pushed hard. Cena wouldn't count since he's a polarizing figure among fans (both smarks and non-smarks). I'm talking about someone like Austin, Rock, and to a lesser extent, Batista (when he was extremely over).

Of course, I'm referring to Triple H when he's a heel. Then again, he's never had a really successful, main event face run. He's had opportunities where he COULD have, but the trigger wasn't pulled.

If Triple H does come back from this injury, I think he should be turned heel and used to get faces over. Once they've beat him, they would face the top heel of the company (someone like Edge). That's just my opinion, though.

[JMA]

admiralcrunchy said:

jma said:

Business standpoint? Are you referring to drawing power or something else?

Are you telling me that he hasn't been a top draw for the last 8 years? Or are you telling me that WWE distributes those Game, DX, HHH and King Of Kings signs before the show.

He's legitamently one of the best things WWE has had to offer for a long time. Saying that he can't draw well is the same as saying Bret can't draw well, which is ridiculous.

Did I say that he couldn't draw? No. I was just asking what you meant by "business standpoint." It can have several meanings. I didn't want to reply without knowing what you meant.