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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jan 8, 2007 15:13:40 GMT -5
You know, reading the messages on this site just isn't good for my blood pressure at times. After reading the "OMG Cena beat Umaga! Worst booking ever!!" rants, I had to put this to you:
There couldn't have been a better way for Cena to beat Umaga. If it had led to some BS double count out or DQ, that would have been been a waste of time and an insult to the audience.
Umaga looked damn near indestructable against Cena, far more than the "almost got beat" matches with Kane and HHH. Every move Cena pulled off, Umaga shrugged off - as a real monster heel should.
If Cena had pulled off his five moves of doom and beat Umaga in a five minute match - THAT would have been wrong.
They made Cena look like he escaped with the belt through a fluke, a one-off that, if he hadn't have managed, he would have been destroyed. Jeez, they've only been feuding for a few months (if that) - Cena beating Umaga is only going to add fuel to the rivalry, with an enraged AAE saying Umaga had Cena beat etc etc, and there'll be a rematch at the Rumble.
Well, I hope that's the case anyway. I really, really, REALLY wanted Umaga to beat Cena but, in reality, this was the best alternative result we could have asked for.
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Post by Stu on Jan 8, 2007 15:16:32 GMT -5
Not a bad argument. From a logical and kayfabe standpoint, it was probably easier for Cena to hold Umaga's shoulder's down for a quick three seconds instead of just trying to knock him out, tiring himself out in the process (see the episode of the Simpsons when Homer had a boxing career).
And I also agree it's better than a DQ or countout finish.
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Post by The Curmudgeon on Jan 8, 2007 15:19:39 GMT -5
If we're talking Simpson's finishes, they should have had someone fly in on a jetpack and carry Cena away before Umaga's Samoan Spike.
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Post by hollywood on Jan 8, 2007 15:19:57 GMT -5
I can't really say whether the booking for Cena/Umaga was good or bad, because I haven't been watching and I'm kinda indifferent to the E nowadays. But I will say this: If I'd read that Umaga was coming to RAW as the new world champ tonight, I would've tuned it.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 8, 2007 15:30:38 GMT -5
At least it keeps Cena out of the Rumble. I'm sure they'll be Rematch at the Rumble too but it's kind of dissappointing Umaga won't be in the RR if that's the case. The mosters are the most fun in those matches.
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Post by Stu on Jan 8, 2007 15:39:52 GMT -5
At least it keeps Cena out of the Rumble. I'm sure they'll be Rematch at the Rumble too but it's kind of dissappointing Umaga won't be in the RR if that's the case. The mosters are the most fun in those matches. Agreed. As I stated in another thread, I'm always interested in seeing new wrestlers or characters (as Jamal, he was in the 2003 Rumble) making their first appearance in the match. It's a good way to measure how they'll be pushed. If they're quickly eliminated, then pfft.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2007 15:45:58 GMT -5
In the last week on the board, I've seen people complain that Umaga of all people didn't become world champion, cry tears for HHH for getting injured and seen poles where people voted Sid as better than Batista and Goldberg better than Cena.
The amount of narrow-minded being a smark, just for the sake of being a smark is hitting all time ridiculousness levels.
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Post by MGH on Jan 8, 2007 15:48:05 GMT -5
You make good points, but the point is I'm still a fan. I can be smarky all I want, but I'm still a fan. I hate John Cena. The booking of him and his character made me stop watching Raw on any constant basis.
I wanted him to lose the title, and I like Umaga more than him. So yeah, I'm pissed.
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Post by ghettooverlord on Jan 8, 2007 15:49:09 GMT -5
Yeah, you guys basically crapped on it because it was John Cena retaining rather than because it was actually a bad finish.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 8, 2007 15:55:14 GMT -5
In the last week on the board, I've seen people complain that Umaga of all people didn't become world champion, cry tears for HHH for getting injured and seen poles where people voted Sid as better than Batista and Goldberg better than Cena. The amount of narrow-minded being a smark, just for the sake of being a smark is hitting all time ridiculousness levels. I disagree, that's just your opinion I was a huge Goldberg mark and thought he was better than Cena, workrate or not, there was just more intensity during Goldberg matches than Cena's,IMO. Sid I liked, cause of his promos mainly, and at times found him funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2007 15:57:21 GMT -5
I think it was a bad finish. Though Cena retaining was also bad.
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Post by royboy8 on Jan 8, 2007 15:58:31 GMT -5
I agree. People care about Cena's matches...whether it is wanting him to win or lose. He's a draw and fans are most into his matches....
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 8, 2007 16:28:48 GMT -5
Cena/Umaga was done in the same veign as Sting/Vader or Diesel/Bret.
Seriously big man dominates and the smaller guy waits for the opportunity to score with a pin.
It made Umaga look like a beast throughout the match, and Cena sold his ass off the whole match..
I want to see a longer match between these 2 guys, they've got awesome chemistry, and Umaga was able to get the crowd to rally for the beaten Cena.
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 8, 2007 16:30:24 GMT -5
Cena beating Umaga...
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Post by salTy on Jan 8, 2007 16:30:43 GMT -5
I knew Umaga wouldn't win, so there's nothing to complain about. Anyone thinking Umaga WOULD win is a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Jan 8, 2007 17:05:54 GMT -5
I'll just say that if Cena had[/i] to win, a rollup was the best way to go about it.
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Post by Boomaga on Jan 8, 2007 18:30:40 GMT -5
I knew Umaga wouldn't win, so there's nothing to complain about. Anyone thinking Umaga WOULD win is a few fries short of a Happy Meal. Is thinking the same as hoping? Anywho, I'll agree that if Cena was going to win, it would be a quick roll-up, not a dominating F-U related finish. Now my problem here is that I've actually grown to like the Umaga character and I LOVE Estrada. So is the double-double-E going to continue to make Umaga look like a monster now that he's lost or is he on the usual McMahon-Engineered One-Way Express to jobberville? In other words, do we have a Brock Lesnar or a Ludvig Borga here?
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 8, 2007 18:34:29 GMT -5
I LOVE DOUBLE DOUBLE E! I LOVE DOUBLE DOUBLE E! I LOVE DOUBLE DOUBLE E!
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