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Post by MGH on Jan 6, 2007 22:05:45 GMT -5
When Helms was talking to Hardy and talking about how badly he beat him the Sunday before, and Teddy decided that warranted a match with THE UNDERTAKAH! ....Why? He DID beat Hardy. When a face finally goes over in a feud they get to talk it up. Why should Helms be punished for it? Waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait a minute. I know exactly what you're talking about here, and Helms did not beat Matt Hardy at No Mercy. the talk in question was Helms trying to do the following 1.) Pass off Hardy's win at No Mercy as a fluke (or as Matt put it to needle him, "a twist of fate") 2.) When that didn't work he went into "I'm the longest reigning cruiserweight champion yadda-yadda-yadda when was the last time you were even near a belt and I can beat anybody on the roster" And that is why Gregory Helms had to face the Undertaker. Well then that's my mistake. Still doesn't explain the rest of the random heel hate by Teddy. Especially with MVP and Kane.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 6, 2007 22:14:26 GMT -5
Waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait a minute. I know exactly what you're talking about here, and Helms did not beat Matt Hardy at No Mercy. the talk in question was Helms trying to do the following 1.) Pass off Hardy's win at No Mercy as a fluke (or as Matt put it to needle him, "a twist of fate") 2.) When that didn't work he went into "I'm the longest reigning cruiserweight champion yadda-yadda-yadda when was the last time you were even near a belt and I can beat anybody on the roster" And that is why Gregory Helms had to face the Undertaker. Well then that's my mistake. Still doesn't explain the rest of the random heel hate by Teddy. Especially with MVP and Kane. MVP and Kane I'll agree is a bizarre matchup...let me try to remember how that happened. Oh yeah, on the SD after No Mercy he was all up in arms about Marty Garner being so awesome or something and out of his league, so Long's like "ok, here's somebody that should be in your league" and Kane comes out. I think it's Teddy Long trying to force MVP to actually earn his dues instead of touting himself through his agent and so forth.
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Post by MGH on Jan 6, 2007 22:20:47 GMT -5
Well then that's my mistake. Still doesn't explain the rest of the random heel hate by Teddy. Especially with MVP and Kane. MVP and Kane I'll agree is a bizarre matchup...let me try to remember how that happened. Oh yeah, on the SD after No Mercy he was all up in arms about Marty Garner being so awesome or something and out of his league, so Long's like "ok, here's somebody that should be in your league" and Kane comes out. I think it's Teddy Long trying to force MVP to actually earn his dues instead of touting himself through his agent and so forth. Not that match. Thaty was fine, the street fight was fine, and since it wasn't clean the cage match also made sense. But MVP won the cage match clean. No weapons, no interference, no cheating. Kane screwed up on the ropes and MVP got out. So Long books them for an inferno match? Why should Kane get his specialty match after HE loses? Why is MVP getting punished for it?
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 6, 2007 22:30:29 GMT -5
MVP and Kane I'll agree is a bizarre matchup...let me try to remember how that happened. Oh yeah, on the SD after No Mercy he was all up in arms about Marty Garner being so awesome or something and out of his league, so Long's like "ok, here's somebody that should be in your league" and Kane comes out. I think it's Teddy Long trying to force MVP to actually earn his dues instead of touting himself through his agent and so forth. Not that match. Thaty was fine, the street fight was fine, and since it wasn't clean the cage match also made sense. But MVP won the cage match clean. No weapons, no interference, no cheating. Kane screwed up on the ropes and MVP got out. So Long books them for an inferno match? Why should Kane get his specialty match after HE loses? Why is MVP getting punished for it? That I'll give you makes little sense, but again it factors into my idea that Long feels that MVP needs to prove himself worthy of the kayfabe contract he was signed to (earning your dues). It's kinda insane, but you gotta admit it probably put butts in seats.
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Post by MGH on Jan 6, 2007 22:37:00 GMT -5
Not that match. Thaty was fine, the street fight was fine, and since it wasn't clean the cage match also made sense. But MVP won the cage match clean. No weapons, no interference, no cheating. Kane screwed up on the ropes and MVP got out. So Long books them for an inferno match? Why should Kane get his specialty match after HE loses? Why is MVP getting punished for it? That I'll give you makes little sense, but again it factors into my idea that Long feels that MVP needs to prove himself worthy of the kayfabe contract he was signed to (earning your dues). It's kinda insane, but you gotta admit it probably put butts in seats. Oh absolutely. I just like picking apart Teddy's messed up logic.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 6, 2007 22:39:11 GMT -5
'CUZ STONE COLD SAID SO!
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Jan 6, 2007 22:55:15 GMT -5
because then you would boo him. WE HAVE A WINNAH!
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Post by KevFalcön07 on Jan 6, 2007 23:33:59 GMT -5
just because that would kill it
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 6, 2007 23:57:28 GMT -5
I can't picture Kennedy as a face
Carlito I could've but Kennedy as a face is like a Heel Rey Mysterio
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Post by Garee on Jan 7, 2007 1:06:56 GMT -5
He will be soon enough
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Post by Nickie James on Jan 7, 2007 5:31:30 GMT -5
Yeah, sadly. He will be face eventually in his future feud with MVP and JBL and I'm really worried too, because.. Do you CHEER for a loudmouthed and brash young up-and-comer? NO. You just don't! It's messed up! Kennedy has been known to be that cocky loud guy on SmackDown. Turning him face would quiet him down unless, he keeps on burning people with insults or is just plain funny. You know.. The Chris Jericho-type of face. But still. It would suck. Big time.
The only good thing I can think of when he's face is a larger, flashier moveset [JFK, Powerbomb (he should do that as a finisher now, dammit!), Cranium Stamp, etc.] and more possible opponents to face.
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Post by KingPopper on Jan 7, 2007 8:07:19 GMT -5
I dont think he'll be a good face, he's just kinda a normal guy that says his name a lot. He's great as a heel, but doesn't have a charater like Cena and Carlito do. If Kennedy was to turn face, he would kinda be boring, unless the kept him a badass, and you sure know they wouldnt do that.
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jan 7, 2007 8:13:45 GMT -5
Because in WWE nowadays, face turn = getting balls cut off.
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Post by Cactus Jack on Jan 7, 2007 10:22:27 GMT -5
Because then he would suck.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2007 16:44:36 GMT -5
If they turned Kennedy face, they'd probably have him stop doing any announcing.
"Kennedy doing his own announcing was egotistical, and a face shouldn't do that."
Instead he would come to the ring, be announced normally with his name said once...and just give a thumbs up. =P
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