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Post by barryhorowitz4ever on Jan 6, 2007 20:47:58 GMT -5
the guy is awesome:)
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The Raven
Hank Scorpio
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Post by The Raven on Jan 6, 2007 20:48:43 GMT -5
Because faces suck.
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Post by MGH on Jan 6, 2007 20:49:06 GMT -5
Heels are the cool characters. I'd want to be a heel too.
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Copeland
Tommy Wiseau
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Post by Copeland on Jan 6, 2007 20:49:58 GMT -5
He's better off as a heel
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 6, 2007 20:50:38 GMT -5
Because he thinks he's great. Anyone who thinks they're great can't be cheered for, right?
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EvilMasterBetty, Esq.
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bird...Birdie...birdie......Tiger...Tiger Tiger.....
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Jan 6, 2007 20:51:13 GMT -5
because then you would boo him.
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Bub (BLM)
Patti Mayonnaise
advocates duck on rodent violence
Fed. Up.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 6, 2007 21:02:03 GMT -5
Because he thinks he's great. Anyone who thinks they're great can't be cheered for, right? Actually, that usually gets them cheered, and then they get watered down for a face turn instead of being left the same *cough*Carlito*cough*
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duxgutz
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Post by duxgutz on Jan 6, 2007 21:05:22 GMT -5
Why isn't The Boogeyman a heel? ...He sucks!
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Post by Loki on Jan 6, 2007 21:12:37 GMT -5
Heels are the cool characters. I'd want to be a heel too. And that's what has gone wrong with WWE over the last years. Heels has become cool, while the faces turned into boring, good-diddily-goody, baby-kissing wussies... Heels cut good promos and MAKE SENSE more often than not, while faces can't say somthing interesting to save their life... With the exceptions of Legends (who transcend the face/heel status), very few faces have been interesting or entertaining to watch... Heels get better material to work with. Faces are still somehow trapped into the 80s-face stereotype, that got old around 1996... Then, when a heel gets too much over, WWE turn him, nullifies his "coolness" and in a matter of months, everything that got him over in the first place is gone, killing the momentum the wrestler had (see Orton, Randy. Carlito.) So Kennedy should stay heel... unless we want to see a watered down, friendly generic guy who says his name twice.
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Post by rrm15 on Jan 6, 2007 21:13:45 GMT -5
Because they dont wanna "Cena" him.
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Post by MGH on Jan 6, 2007 21:17:09 GMT -5
Heels cut good promos and MAKE SENSE more often than not, while faces can't say somthing interesting to save their life... That's exactly why I have trouble getting behind "the good guy" more times than not anymore. Take the MVP/JBL promos in recent weeks. I'm failing to see what they said that was wrong. Take Chavo from back in July. When he was saying that Rey got on top because of Eddie and he was leeching off of Eddie. I can't exactly disagree with any of that. Teddy Long acts more heelish than a heel does more times than not. When Helms was talking to Hardy and talking about how badly he beat him the Sunday before, and Teddy decided that warranted a match with THE UNDERTAKAH! ....Why? He DID beat Hardy. When a face finally goes over in a feud they get to talk it up. Why should Helms be punished for it? Why should I cheer against someone I agree with? Or get behind someone who I think is more in the wrong? WWE really has skewed the line of heel/face rather badly.
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Ace Diamond
Patti Mayonnaise
Believes in Adrian Veidt, as Should We All.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 6, 2007 21:18:08 GMT -5
Yeah...WWE seems to not like faces. I'm hoping on SmackDown they can at least start fixing the face/heel dynamic (hell, you have two of the best on both sides on that Creative staff, I think they can do it)
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erisi236
Fry's dog Seymour
... enjoys the rich, smooth taste of Camels.
Not good! Not good! Not good!
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Post by erisi236 on Jan 6, 2007 21:45:26 GMT -5
Teddy Long acts more heelish than a heel does more times than not. When Helms was talking to Hardy and talking about how badly he beat him the Sunday before, and Teddy decided that warranted a match with THE UNDERTAKAH! ....Why? He DID beat Hardy. When a face finally goes over in a feud they get to talk it up. Why should Helms be punished for it? It is really weird that Teddy is playing an evil GM type role but is still somehow a face GM. Every time a heel wins a match Teddy puts him in an even more dangerous match for the fun of it. Thats what Eric Bischoff does for gawds sake and he gets booed, but Teddy sicks his version of 3minute warning on MVP and Kennedy and gets cheered, how weird is that?
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Post by MGH on Jan 6, 2007 21:48:55 GMT -5
Teddy Long acts more heelish than a heel does more times than not. When Helms was talking to Hardy and talking about how badly he beat him the Sunday before, and Teddy decided that warranted a match with THE UNDERTAKAH! ....Why? He DID beat Hardy. When a face finally goes over in a feud they get to talk it up. Why should Helms be punished for it? It is really weird that Teddy is playing an evil GM type role but is still somehow a face GM. Every time a heel wins a match Teddy puts him in an even more dangerous match for the fun of it. Thats what Eric Bischoff does for gawds sake and he gets booed, but Teddy sicks his version of 3minute warning on MVP and Kennedy and gets cheered, how weird is that? Very! The best one I thought was MVP and Kane. MVP beat Kane clean in that cage match. No weapons, no interference, and no distractions. MVP beat him clean by escaping the cage. It's in the rules that you can win that way, so that should have been the end. Teddy: "Yeah you won playa, now you will go one on one with Kane .... and an INferno MATCH!" ....Dude, WHY?! He beat him! It's over.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 6, 2007 21:50:34 GMT -5
The badass face has disappeared.
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Ace Diamond
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 6, 2007 21:52:45 GMT -5
Teddy Long acts more heelish than a heel does more times than not. When Helms was talking to Hardy and talking about how badly he beat him the Sunday before, and Teddy decided that warranted a match with THE UNDERTAKAH! ....Why? He DID beat Hardy. When a face finally goes over in a feud they get to talk it up. Why should Helms be punished for it? It is really weird that Teddy is playing an evil GM type role but is still somehow a face GM. Every time a heel wins a match Teddy puts him in an even more dangerous match for the fun of it. Thats what Eric Bischoff does for gawds sake and he gets booed, but Teddy sicks his version of 3minute warning on MVP and Kennedy and gets cheered, how weird is that? It's probably cause he does it to heels instead of faces. Also I think he's trying to just get the point across to all the heels that you don't mess with him, and if you don't mess with him he won't mess with you. Example: he conceded to King Booker that Batista's final shot for the title would be @ Survivor Series mostly because King Booker asked it of him without sounding too demanding. (Well, he may have said he wouldn't sign the match contract without that stipulation, but other than that)
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Jan 6, 2007 21:56:31 GMT -5
Teddy Long acts more heelish than a heel does more times than not. When Helms was talking to Hardy and talking about how badly he beat him the Sunday before, and Teddy decided that warranted a match with THE UNDERTAKAH! ....Why? He DID beat Hardy. When a face finally goes over in a feud they get to talk it up. Why should Helms be punished for it? It is really weird that Teddy is playing an evil GM type role but is still somehow a face GM. Every time a heel wins a match Teddy puts him in an even more dangerous match for the fun of it. Thats what Eric Bischoff does for gawds sake and he gets booed, but Teddy sicks his version of 3minute warning on MVP and Kennedy and gets cheered, how weird is that? Theres a pretty easy explaination as to why he's a face. THUGGIN & BUGGIN! Hell, Bischoff coulda turned easily if he started dancing every time he sicked the 3 Minute Warning on people.
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JMA
Hank Scorpio
Down With Capitalism!
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Post by JMA on Jan 6, 2007 21:57:40 GMT -5
The badass face has disappeared. They even watered that down when Austin and JR became on-screen buddies. Austin shouldn't have friends, he should only have reluctant alliances. He never needed another weakness, his inability to connect with anyone on a personal level was his weakness. Come to think of it, why does every face like JR? They've disliked other face announcers, but never JR. I'd like to see a face that didn't like him.
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 6, 2007 21:59:55 GMT -5
Because Kane and Undertaker are frinds of Teddy Long, and he hates so very much Kenneday(KENNEDAY~) MVP and Gregory Helms.
Well, this is at least what I think.
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Ace Diamond
Patti Mayonnaise
Believes in Adrian Veidt, as Should We All.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 6, 2007 22:03:33 GMT -5
When Helms was talking to Hardy and talking about how badly he beat him the Sunday before, and Teddy decided that warranted a match with THE UNDERTAKAH! ....Why? He DID beat Hardy. When a face finally goes over in a feud they get to talk it up. Why should Helms be punished for it? Waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait a minute. I know exactly what you're talking about here, and Helms did not beat Matt Hardy at No Mercy. the talk in question was Helms trying to do the following 1.) Pass off Hardy's win at No Mercy as a fluke (or as Matt put it to needle him, "a twist of fate") 2.) When that didn't work he went into "I'm the longest reigning cruiserweight champion yadda-yadda-yadda when was the last time you were even near a belt blah-blah-blah I can beat anybody on the roster" And that is why Gregory Helms had to face the Undertaker. It's really why anybody has to face the Undertaker, they start claiming they can beat ANYBODY or demand a tougher challenge. Or say they've beaten everyone.
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