Heidenreich frozen Nazi gimmick

[Rocky Angle]

I remember hearing that Heidenreich was originally going to be brought in as a Nazi character who had been frozen since the war.

Anyone got any more details on the gimmick and why it was never used?

I'd totally mark out for a frozen nazi gimmick. Ah what might have been.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

The only other detail I know about is that he was apparently supposed to team with Kenzo Suzuki doing his Hirohito gimmick in some sort of WWII villians gimmick. Apparently someone on WWE creative was really into the history channel during that period of time.

[Sajoa Moe]

chuckymac314 said:

The only other detail I know about is that he was apparently supposed to team with Kenzo Suzuki doing his Hirohito gimmick in some sort of WWII villians gimmick. Apparently someone on WWE creative was really into the history channel during that period of time.

"WWE" and "History" do not belong in the same sentence.

[The Raven]

chuckymac314 said:

The only other detail I know about is that he was apparently supposed to team with Kenzo Suzuki doing his Hirohito gimmick in some sort of WWII villians gimmick. Apparently someone on WWE creative was really into the history channel during that period of time.

That's a tag team only the Justice League could defeat.

[Next Level was WRONG]

I wonder if they would have still feuded with the Undertaker though? Because that would have been great.

[normcoleman]

Does that make Little Guido Mussolini?

[KyleR007]

Well it could explain why they brought back Jim Duggan

[Deleted]

I seriously would've enjoyed the sheer crappiness of that, if the Axis was invading WWE rings

[CyberTwix]

The only problem I see with the WWII enemies gimmick is that WWE doesn't expect us to remember WWE history, let alone history itself, and if we begin to remember history, then we would begin remember the WWE's history, which could very well begin massive destruction when compared to the crap we get to see now.

[Zen411]

Wow....absolutely NO ONE would object to that character. JBL gets worldwide negative press for doing a Nazi hand gesture/walk in a ring in Germany yet no one would mind a Nazi character?

I think they were trying to hint at it in his first promos by emphasizing "reich" when he said his name. ANd wasn't he wearing green army style clothes? But after that he was the strait jacketed chocolate eating moron we all loved to hate.

[Brick Killed a Guy]

chuckymac314 said:

The only other detail I know about is that he was apparently supposed to team with Kenzo Suzuki doing his Hirohito gimmick in some sort of WWII villians gimmick. Apparently someone on WWE creative was really into the history channel during that period of time.

All that was missing was Nunzio or Vito to complete the trifecta.

Imagine:

6-man tag in the Elimination Chamber

Kurt Angle (USA)
Vladimir Koslov (USSR)
William Regal (UK)

vs:

Heindreich (Germany)
Nunzio (Italy)
Suzuki (Japan)

[CyberTwix]

zen411 said:

I think they were trying to hint at it in his first promos by emphasizing "reich" when he said his name.

And didn't his theme go something like 'reich reich Heidenreich' over and over again. So that every third Reich is his name? Is that a hint, or what?

...actually, a better question would be:Do I have too much time on my hands, or what?

Edit : And no, this isn't a sarcastic stab at zen411. I REALLY have too much time on my hands. Work's pretty slow today. Just wanted to clarify before anyone took it the wrong way.

[Drillbit Taylor]

I actually want them to do something like this. That would actually work on SD

[amsiraK]

rockyangle said:

Anyone got any more details on the gimmick and why it was never used?

Because someone's watching out for us.

Seriously. They couldn't handle Mohammed Hassan's character the right way. Can you IMAGINE what a Frozen Nazi would have been like? And with GOLDBERG in the company? My brain hurts just thinking about it.

Though I'd like a Frozen Caveman Wrestler character. "I'm just a simple caveman... I know nothing of your sports -entertainment..."

[dirtydickraines]

uncivilized82 said:

chuckymac314 said:

The only other detail I know about is that he was apparently supposed to team with Kenzo Suzuki doing his Hirohito gimmick in some sort of WWII villians gimmick. Apparently someone on WWE creative was really into the history channel during that period of time.

All that was missing was Nunzio or Vito to complete the trifecta.

Imagine:

6-man tag in the Elimination Chamber

Kurt Angle (USA)
Vladimir Koslov (USSR)
William Regal (UK)

vs:

Heindreich (Germany)
Nunzio (Italy)
Suzuki (Japan)

Outside of Angle, that isn't even good enough to be the main even on Heat.

[Legion]

Heidenreich
Captain Nazi

Kenzo
The Mandarin

They get away with things like this in comic books, Captain Nazi's gimmick is exactly the same as the original Heidenreich concept, he was a 'super soldier' frozen at the end of world war two, then defrosted and went searching for the cryogenic chamber HITLER was in. He even found it, only to discover it had malfunctioned and all that was left was a skull with a neatly trimmed Hitler moustasch (sp?)

[seanwalsh]

evrbody said:

"WWE" and "History" do not belong in the same sentence.

"The WWE should be out of business and a distant part of history."


See? Those belong rather nicely!

[Rocky Angle]

chuckymac314 said:

The only other detail I know about is that he was apparently supposed to team with Kenzo Suzuki doing his Hirohito gimmick in some sort of WWII villians gimmick. Apparently someone on WWE creative was really into the history channel during that period of time.

Ah I remember that now. And Kenzo didn't want to do the hirohito gimmick, so that could be what killed nazi heidenreich.

Just imagine it though, the goosestepping, the nazi salute, the horst wessel as his entrance music.... What would be a good finisher for a nazi though? I believe the iron claw is traditional, but I don't think it would suit a big guy like Herr Heidenreich.

[Crappler El 0 M]

Funny thing is, the rumored duo that was supposed to feud with them was Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho who were around this time beginning to be billed from Atlanta, Georgia and Manhassat, New York respectively. I guess we can compare this to a recent storyline when Petey Williams was the one chosen to defend America against LAX.

[odanobunaga]

rockyangle said:

chuckymac314 said:

The only other detail I know about is that he was apparently supposed to team with Kenzo Suzuki doing his Hirohito gimmick in some sort of WWII villians gimmick. Apparently someone on WWE creative was really into the history channel during that period of time.

Ah I remember that now. And Kenzo didn't want to do the hirohito gimmick, so that could be what killed nazi heidenreich.

Just imagine it though, the goosestepping, the nazi salute, the horst wessel as his entrance music.... What would be a good finisher for a nazi though? I believe the iron claw is traditional, but I don't think it would suit a big guy like Herr Heidenreich.

It coukd work if it was a guy who want to quit the wrestling bussniess, so he tought that ofending people would get him kicked out. So he would dress himself as Hitler and do the Nazi salute and all, ansd get massive heat.

Hell, make his music "Spring Time For Hitler" and EVERBODY would get that joke.