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Post by thegame415 on Jan 4, 2007 20:15:58 GMT -5
Im sure someone else has thought this before, but am I the only one who thinks CM Punk was put in ECW as a way to get back at all the smarks who were bashing "the new breed". Think about it... he couldve been put on Raw, the landmark show where he couldve prospered and gotten more attention from marks, or smackdown, which was really lacking depth and couldve used a spark around the time of his debut.
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Post by badantoineaccid on Jan 4, 2007 20:18:11 GMT -5
I have no clue.... I consider ECW like Velocity
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Post by Corporate H on Jan 4, 2007 20:18:28 GMT -5
Probably. Him and Angle were likely placed there to appease to the smarks, either that or they didn't want to screw up Punk so they put him somewhere he could really prosper as opposed to placing him on Raw or SmackDown! where he's likely to get lost in the shuffle.
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Post by thiazzi on Jan 4, 2007 20:21:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think this is a particularly groundbreaking theory.
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Post by The Original Gooker on Jan 4, 2007 20:23:51 GMT -5
I believe that CM Punk best suited in ECW, as he isnt as big and muscular at the RAW and SD! guys so he would've been jobbing on that shows. The reason they put him in ECW is because they knew hes talented and I think the WWE has some good things stored for CM Punk in the future.
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Post by Tyfo on Jan 4, 2007 20:24:25 GMT -5
No, I think Paul Heyman wanted him and neither the Raw or SD creative teams really did.
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Post by KLRA on Jan 4, 2007 20:25:41 GMT -5
No, I think Paul Heyman wanted him and neither the Raw or SD creative teams really did. Bingo.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 4, 2007 20:57:47 GMT -5
Well, I can't see Punk just vanishing. They're bound to do something with him.
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Jan 4, 2007 20:58:29 GMT -5
No, I think Paul Heyman wanted him and neither the Raw or SD creative teams really did. That just proves how stupid they are
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 4, 2007 21:01:54 GMT -5
No, I think Paul Heyman wanted him and neither the Raw or SD creative teams really did. That just proves how stupid they are C.M. Punk isn't big enough to be WWE Champion or anything but a short-lived novelty act in WWE. He'll never make it past where he is right now, because they have their image of what they want - tall, handsome bodybuilders - and they aren't going to change it. Seriously, there would have to be a MAJOR shake-up in how things work for anything to change.
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Post by Count Creepyhead on Jan 4, 2007 21:09:44 GMT -5
Real smarks don't like CM punk.
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Post by thiazzi on Jan 4, 2007 21:11:26 GMT -5
Maybe he'll be the next Bret Hart. Not bloody likely, but we can only hope, I guess.
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Post by Count Creepyhead on Jan 4, 2007 21:14:33 GMT -5
Maybe he'll be the next Bret Hart. Not bloody likely, but we can only hope, I guess. Hardly, Punk is just one of the few guys who stood out, which wasen't hard to do, in the weird world of indie wrestling from the post boom. He's just the pick of a very bad litter.
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Post by The Original Gooker on Jan 4, 2007 21:14:43 GMT -5
That just proves how stupid they are C.M. Punk isn't big enough to be WWE Champion or anything but a short-lived novelty act in WWE. He'll never make it past where he is right now, because they have their image of what they want - tall, handsome bodybuilders - and they aren't going to change it. Seriously, there would have to be a MAJOR shake-up in how things work for anything to change. Completely agree with your statement sir.
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 5, 2007 0:57:31 GMT -5
Maybe he'll be the next Bret Hart. Not bloody likely, but we can only hope, I guess. Hardly, Punk is just one of the few guys who stood out, which wasen't hard to do, in the weird world of indie wrestling from the post boom. He's just the pick of a very bad litter. Bad in terms of talent, or bad in terms of total package brought to the table? I'd be willing to grant the "total package" argument, in that guys like Dragon, Low Ki, James Gibson, and Spanky are just way too freakin' small to be serious singles players in today's WWE, Samoa Joe is too much of a wrestler as opposed to brawler to be a WWE minority caricature wrestler, and so on and so on. The problem, of course, is the focus on big stiffs like post-injury Big Dave, new guys like Rodimer, etc. But if it sells, oh well. But if you're saying Punk isn't talented, or is only moderately talented at best and is stuck on the mid-to-upper card of a third-rate wrestling show, then I'd take issue. I've seen enough Punk to know that he can entertain as a talker, as a technician, as a brawler, and as both a face and heel. Could he be the WWE Champion in today's WWE? Certainly not as a babyface. But if they let him be an Attitude Era-type heel, he could pull it off. He's the same size as Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels, same height as Austin. If anything, he's a shorter version of young Edge when he debuted in the late 90s. He's muscular but not bulky. Given time to grow in the E's style, he could get over, pull off a heel turn, and play the role Edge is playing right now. In a couple years, it could happen. Edit: And imagine if Cabana was in the Orton/sidekick-who's-booked-to-be-just-as-good role. Punk/Cabana in '09!
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Post by Bhester on Jan 5, 2007 1:01:34 GMT -5
I think Punk's mentioned in interviews that he's trying to put a little more muscle on.
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Post by leemir on Jan 5, 2007 1:16:45 GMT -5
He said he was gonna try get back into the shape he was in 2years ago.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 5, 2007 1:29:19 GMT -5
Well, people certainly did start noticing Punk putting on more muscle in 2005, so I guess that's what he's going for.
Has he lost size at all? I haven't been watching enough to see. Wouldn't be a total shock, as it could be quite an issue to rework your workout schedule to fit around a WWE travel schedule.
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