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Post by robferatu on Aug 1, 2007 14:04:05 GMT -5
Of course Vince is panicking right now, and probably blaming everyone except for himself and Stephanie.
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Post by Tyfo on Aug 1, 2007 14:07:28 GMT -5
Oh no, Bonnie Hammer is probably on the phone as we speak trying to locate The Oddities, Chyna, Sable, Southern Justice, Meat, Chaz, and Vince Russo.
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Post by fabulousfreebird on Aug 1, 2007 14:09:14 GMT -5
What caused a whole 1.0 drop? Damn that is harsh! I'm guessing that Vince and everybody over at Titan Towers is going NUTS!
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 1, 2007 14:09:21 GMT -5
Rwally? Cuz is this was a TNA thread, we'd have fifty people in here going "OMG TNA 2 GOEZ BANKRUPTZ BY 2MORROW!" Yeah, they're the apologistic mindless drones around here, all right. But one thing's for sure, this rating drop sure isn't because of the current state of the product. That's impossible, WWE NEVER does anything wrong. It MUST be the fault of people who have different opinions! Those mindless drones! Yeah! It's crap like this that makes me really regret ever even coming back to post here. It was a goddamn joke. But, what a surprise, someone has to come back with an incredibly sarcastic reply because they take everything they read here like it's gospel. Some people here take this wrestling crap so damn seriously that they would rather just come here and complain about how some people aren't taking it as seriously as they should. I used to remember when people would reply back to me telling me that they enjoyed my sense of humor in regards to whatever I was talking about. Instead, the only replies I get since I came back is to (a) correct me because I forgot a very, small, insignificant detail to a point I'm trying to make that doesn't even factor into the point I'm making or (b) get their panties in a bunch when you say something that offends someone who really shouldn't even be getting offended in the first place. Just because you don't necessarily agree with someone's opinions means you have to come back with a ridiculous reply like the ones I've been getting. I mean, if I were to do that, I'd have ammunition on 75% of you here. I guess the days where you can just have fun posting here are long and gone. Pathetic. I think everyone's just frustrated with the state of things, and you have to admit that we've been given a lot of reasons to be frustrated. It's the love that everyone here has for wrestling that prompts such replies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2007 14:09:54 GMT -5
Oh no, Bonnie Hammer is probably on the phone as we speak trying to locate The Oddities, Chyna, Sable, Southern Justice, Meat, Chaz, and Vince Russo. I have to admit, I'd mark for a Headbangers return.
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Post by Tyfo on Aug 1, 2007 14:19:46 GMT -5
Oh no, Bonnie Hammer is probably on the phone as we speak trying to locate The Oddities, Chyna, Sable, Southern Justice, Meat, Chaz, and Vince Russo. I have to admit, I'd mark for a Headbangers return. Whoa, I said nothing about Headbangers. She's looking for Chaz!! Chaz and his smiley face boxers.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Aug 1, 2007 14:21:01 GMT -5
Ratings mean nothing relating to quality. Some of the best Shows on TV, and award winning shows at that, have been cancelled due to poor ratings. read:arrested development I miss Arrested Development ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by The Line on Aug 1, 2007 14:22:40 GMT -5
read:arrested development I miss Arrested Development ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) me,too
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 1, 2007 14:26:37 GMT -5
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Just because a show gets high ratings doesn't mean it's necessarily quality. And just because it gets low ratings doesn't necessarily mean it's crappy. 1997 got low ratings, but were they crappy shows? Many people in this thread have stated that in terms of overall quality, it was some of the best stuff they'd ever seen. However, Nitro was winning in the ratings. And when Nitro had some of those high-rated shows when they were hot, does it really mean they were really great? RD proves a pretty good case in "Death of WCW." That's not what I said. You missed my point entirely. What I said was that low-rated shows can be quality ... but TV executives don't care for the opinions of those who watch said low-rated shows, or the critical praise they may get. They want ratings. Ratings=money. Low ratings=less money. So, regardless of if this past Monday's Raw was the best since the Attitude era, all TV execs and Vince McMahon will see is that horrible rating. They'll focus on that, and only that. Jed Shaffer ~And since Vince controls what's on the show, when he sees the ratings ... kaboom. Pretty much. Ratings=money, and money talks, everything else walks. Sad truth of business.
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Post by Palatial Regalia on Aug 1, 2007 14:27:07 GMT -5
Why is it when WE enjoy a show, things just don't end well? I mean, look at ECW... That it right there exactly. Wrestling fans are a very minuscule minority amongst total viewer. The group that brings the ratings wants to see pointless diva matches and John Cena overcome the odds.
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Post by robferatu on Aug 1, 2007 14:28:23 GMT -5
I miss Arrested Development ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) me,too Add another one to that list.
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Post by Tyfo on Aug 1, 2007 14:28:45 GMT -5
Why is it when WE enjoy a show, things just don't end well? I mean, look at ECW... That it right there exactly. Wrestling fans are a very minuscule minority amongst total viewer. The group that brings the ratings wants to see pointless diva matches and John Cena overcome the odds. After this, we'll never see Cena job again. Ever.
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Post by Error on Aug 1, 2007 14:32:37 GMT -5
Damn this sucks but, with all RAW has lost and done to itself, its to be expected. I mean they have lost Trips, HBK and Edge all cornerstones of the main event scene and killed off everyone else by jobbing them to Cena. Add to that the Benoit controversy and fallout and this is what they have.
I just hope they don't overreact and cripple the other brands or start pulling some WCW crap.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 1, 2007 14:32:46 GMT -5
That it right there exactly. Wrestling fans are a very minuscule minority amongst total viewer. The group that brings the ratings wants to see pointless diva matches and John Cena overcome the odds. After this, we'll never see Cena job again. Ever. Yay?
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Post by The Line on Aug 1, 2007 14:33:08 GMT -5
I wonder how ECW's ratings did, because I liked that even more than I liked RAW. So that means it'll get sub-1, knowing my luck.
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Post by Error on Aug 1, 2007 14:33:22 GMT -5
Why is it when WE enjoy a show, things just don't end well? I mean, look at ECW... That it right there exactly. Wrestling fans are a very minuscule minority amongst total viewer. The group that brings the ratings wants to see pointless diva matches and John Cena overcome the odds. Then why have the ratings dropped with that happening?
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Post by Jiren on Aug 1, 2007 14:36:30 GMT -5
It could just be because people are sick of Raw being so damn awful nearly every week, and it just so happend to be this week people said "f*** it".
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 1, 2007 14:37:02 GMT -5
That's WAY too big a ratings drop to pin on any one thing. Normally, I would say that Neilson ratings aren't really that important (it's an outdated system that doesn't take into account households with more than one TV, I think), but a -1.0 drop? That's too big not to notice.
I can't think of anything big that was on TV on Monday night, so WWE's got nobody to blame but themselves, it would seem.
But somebody's gotta show the actual hourly/half-hourly breakdowns of the ratings. If Raw started with, say, a 3.3, then fell to a 2.1 by the end, that's even more devastating, since it would show that they are losing their audience.
If it stayed low the whole time, then it might be a reaction to last weeks show, or who knows what else (since we're not about to figure it out any time soon).
Now I didn't really see Raw (caught a few minutes while channel surfing), but I'm curious: were the matches really that good, or is the main reason people are saying "it was a much better show" that Cena/Lashley lost? Gotta do more than that to show an actual upswing in quality, I'd think.
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Post by JMA on Aug 1, 2007 14:38:30 GMT -5
ECW tends to drop when Raw does. That's not always the case, but usually it is.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 1, 2007 14:39:28 GMT -5
Wow. That's the lowest rating I've seen since maybe 96 or 97. That's insane.
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