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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 12, 2007 13:38:53 GMT -5
Would you rather have a **** main event that doesn't draw, or a ** main event that put butts into seats and PPV buys nationwide Are you implying Triple H fails to draw or sell merch? Because that's just plain ignorant. Yeah, I've seen that man unloading t-shirts from his truck and dropping them off at the merch table. No wait, that was Tommy Dreamer. I always get those 2 mixed up
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Post by wwerules60 on Aug 12, 2007 15:18:23 GMT -5
And that's why, HHH had to bust his ass more in the ring and his matches are rated *** or more (according to Meltzer). What was Hogan's highest-rated match by Meltz? Would you rather have a **** main event that doesn't draw, or a ** main event that put butts into seats and PPV buys nationwide Why should we care how much someone draws, I don't watch wrestling to see the biggest Draw, I watch it to see godd matches.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 12, 2007 17:27:05 GMT -5
Would you rather have a **** main event that doesn't draw, or a ** main event that put butts into seats and PPV buys nationwide Why should we care how much someone draws, I don't watch wrestling to see the biggest Draw, I watch it to see godd matches. You shouldn't. What might be good to you, may not be good to someone else. The majority wants to pay to see their favorites win, not the next Meltzer MOTYC.
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Post by odanobunaga on Aug 12, 2007 17:51:20 GMT -5
Would you rather have a **** main event that doesn't draw, or a ** main event that put butts into seats and PPV buys nationwide Excuse me sir, I believe use of Logic and Reason prohibits you from posting on an internet wrestling forum. Please turn in your IWC card at the door. You Lose! Good Day Sir! Fixed for Willy Wonka maneirism.
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Post by thesunbeast on Aug 13, 2007 8:40:21 GMT -5
I guess that quad tear made things even worse. At least, HHH cares about the business more than Hogan, who is today, all about money and nothing more. That's not true. You have to care about the business in order to do the things you need to do to be successful at it for long periods of time. Both HHH and Hogan love the business, just HHH dosen;t seem to love Hogan, that dosen't take away from their love of the business.
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Post by Splinter on Aug 13, 2007 8:45:26 GMT -5
I guess that quad tear made things even worse. At least, HHH cares about the business more than Hogan, who is today, all about money and nothing more. ROFL! Classic. Triple H cares about the business for one reason. Although he likes to be at the top and get a lot of money the same way Hogan does, Triple H only cares about the business cause he knows he's gonna have full control of the biggest wrestling company in the world
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Post by thesunbeast on Aug 13, 2007 8:53:36 GMT -5
There is doubt that HHH's ego know's no bounds. Those on the outside see it clear but WWE management is blind? Do we know more about what goes on backstage than those that are backstage? Wrestlers don't like HHH because he has different opinions on things backstage than some others'. Wrestlers have respect for HHH, well, because he has opinions on things backstage than some others'. He is not a stooge, although I don't know exactly what all his stances are. HHH is the Randy Johnson type guy that tells you and management all the flaws that you have, and what you better do if you want to make it big, why, because he's a wrestler too. WHAT MANAGEMENT DOES WITH THAT INFORMATION IS UP TO THEM, NOT HHH. HHH, like him or not, has a great mind for the business, and that's why, first and foremost, that he gets listened to on idea's. Mabe his Idea's are actually better than management's. If you're going to be a star in WWE, you had better overcome all obsticles, and If you have the McMahon family, Johnny Ace, Jim Ross, Arn Anderson, Undertaker, and HHH all breathing down your neck, and you still do good, then there's no stopping you. Somehow, I think the guy that posted this just hates HHH, that's all. Marrissa Mazzolla was never women's champ.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Aug 13, 2007 9:01:15 GMT -5
It really isn't about drawing power anymore. At least not in the WWE. See, people buy the ppv tickets and the TV tickets LOOOOONG before the main event is announced. The *brand name* puts the asses in the seats. Yeah, you might go in order to SEE one of the guys, but there's no guarantee that you'll see them.
How many people at this board alone have already made posts saying that they have their WM24 tickets already? I've seen at least 3, if memory serves. And that's almost a year away. They have NO CLUE what the matches are, or who's even going to be there(spoiler: Cena wins).
They bought the tickets because of the name 'WrestleMania'. What if Trips gets hurt again and is out at WM24 like last year? Doesn't matter. Vince and Co. already have your money.
It's not like the 80s where there was 2-4 months to build a ppv and the main event is announced way ahead of time. Nowadays, there's a few weeks at best to build it up, and tickets go on sale sometimes months ahead of time.
In summary: It's not always about the wrestler drawing. It's about the brand name.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Aug 13, 2007 9:08:12 GMT -5
And that's why, HHH had to bust his ass more in the ring and his matches are rated *** or more (according to Meltzer). What was Hogan's highest-rated match by Meltz? Did I miss the memo? Is Meltzer's opinion the official measuring stick of what qualifies as a good match in wrestling nowadays? That's news to me. I never understood the "star" fascination with wrestling fans. Five star, four star, 3 and a quarter star.....who bloody cares? Either you liked a match or you didn't. Is anyone going to like a match less because Meltzer rated it lower? I hope not. I also don't understand the point of this thread, but at least I'm not alone. Dude WTF is wrong with you? If DAVE GOD DAMN MELTZER doesn't give a match eight stars, a backflip, and a handjob, it's not worth watching. Anything from the WWF that wasn't Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat is CRAP.
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Post by Dean-o on Aug 13, 2007 9:23:12 GMT -5
Would you rather have a **** main event that doesn't draw, or a ** main event that put butts into seats and PPV buys nationwide Are you implying Triple H fails to draw or sell merch? Because that's just plain ignorant. No way, I meant neither of the two.
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Post by azz0r on Aug 13, 2007 9:34:59 GMT -5
Even funnier is that HHH has 50 times less charisma than Hogan, never had a better "look", and is barely more entertaining in the ring (and, whether he's actually "more entertaining" in the ring is debatable to most). HAHA! PUH-LEASE. Hogan can't wrestle, its pathetic.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 13, 2007 9:36:24 GMT -5
Even funnier is that HHH has 50 times less charisma than Hogan, never had a better "look", and is barely more entertaining in the ring (and, whether he's actually "more entertaining" in the ring is debatable to most). HAHA! PUH-LEASE. Hogan can't wrestle, its pathetic. Well, the actual "wrestling" really isn't what those fans are there to see. They want to be entertained above all else, and Hogan was a great entertainer, whether you like him or not. "Workrate" means nothing.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Aug 13, 2007 9:37:50 GMT -5
Even funnier is that HHH has 50 times less charisma than Hogan, never had a better "look", and is barely more entertaining in the ring (and, whether he's actually "more entertaining" in the ring is debatable to most). HAHA! PUH-LEASE. Hogan can't wrestle, its pathetic. So, tell me who's going to make a company more money, Hulk Hogan or Dean Malenko.
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Post by azz0r on Aug 13, 2007 10:25:42 GMT -5
He was comparing HHH to Hogan.
HHH can wrestle, is entertaining and has a better look.
...to say that Hogan can wrestle better than HHH is ridiculous.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Aug 13, 2007 10:33:28 GMT -5
He was comparing HHH to Hogan. HHH can wrestle, is entertaining and has a better look. ...to say that Hogan can wrestle better than HHH is ridiculous. Well, that's your opinion, not fact. Hogan had some great matches in Japan with guys like Hansen, Muta, Chono and others. You may not like him, but it doesn't mean he's not a better wrestler. Hogan's over to the point where he doesn't have to wrestle a 30-minute match, the fans mark for whatever he does.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Aug 13, 2007 10:39:08 GMT -5
Did I miss the memo? Is Meltzer's opinion the official measuring stick of what qualifies as a good match in wrestling nowadays? That's news to me. I never understood the "star" fascination with wrestling fans. Five star, four star, 3 and a quarter star.....who bloody cares? Either you liked a match or you didn't. Is anyone going to like a match less because Meltzer rated it lower? I hope not. I also don't understand the point of this thread, but at least I'm not alone. Dude WTF is wrong with you? If DAVE GOD DAMN MELTZER doesn't give a match eight stars, a backflip, and a handjob, it's not worth watching. Anything from the WWF that wasn't Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat is CRAP. You're such a populist, doood... don't you know that there was a match between Savage and Tommy Polston that was 5* in Podunk, NJ, in 1985. What, you've never heard of Tommy Polston? You're such a n003, lame-o. Go and look at the wrestling wrestlehistory books, they'll not tell you... I heard it from Scott Throng, he was there, along with 2 other guys, and they said it was the best thing ever. HAH! NERB!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2007 15:32:46 GMT -5
Am I the only one left confused as to the point of the "Tidbit"
After reading twice I am still perplexed by it
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Aug 13, 2007 15:36:31 GMT -5
Dude WTF is wrong with you? If DAVE GOD DAMN MELTZER doesn't give a match eight stars, a backflip, and a handjob, it's not worth watching. Anything from the WWF that wasn't Randy Savage vs Ricky Steamboat is CRAP. You're such a populist, doood... don't you know that there was a match between Savage and Tommy Polston that was 5* in Podunk, NJ, in 1985. What, you've never heard of Tommy Polston? You're such a n003, lame-o. Go and look at the wrestling wrestlehistory books, they'll not tell you... I heard it from Scott Throng, he was there, along with 2 other guys, and they said it was the best thing ever. HAH! NERB! Did I just get pwnt? I kinda feel like it....my butt is e-sore.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Aug 13, 2007 15:53:29 GMT -5
So, tell me who's going to make a company more money, Hulk Hogan or Dean Malenko. But...but Malenko COULD have been a great star if they had pushed him! He was the Iceman! The Man Of A Thousand Holds! He just needed a chance to cut some great promos! Just listen to that Marlboro-ravaged voice! MONEY!
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Post by skillz on Aug 13, 2007 16:38:49 GMT -5
HAHA! PUH-LEASE. Hogan can't wrestle, its pathetic. So, tell me who's going to make a company more money, Hulk Hogan or Dean Malenko. Malenko. Chain wrestling, no charisma, and little crowd involvement = money.
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