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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Sept 3, 2007 16:05:07 GMT -5
Uhm..so..they allegedly released over a rib? And Randy Orton do whatever he pleases and only receive a slap on the wrist? I call shenanigans. SHENANIGANS. They should put Cade, Murdoch and the ref in a stable and call them Captain Bringdown and The Buzzkilllers. It's kinda simple. Randy Orton is more important than Cryme Tyme. Randy Orton has also been with the company way longer than Cryme Tyme, who've only been there for about a year. They 'assaulted' a referee and took his belt to put themselves over. The referee, if he wanted, could sue, for them attacking him without his consent or it being in the script.
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Post by molson5 on Sept 3, 2007 16:10:19 GMT -5
Why would anyone here have any basis to have an opinion?
I mean, we know a little bit about what happened at the house show, but nothing about the reported attitude problems that already had them on "thin ice".
And Randy Orton has nothing to do this (except that I'm pretty sure that he didn't unprofessionally take liberties with anyone at that house show)
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 3, 2007 16:10:44 GMT -5
The ref would be completely blackballed if he sued Crime Time for shooting on him. He'd certainly be unpopular around the locker room, that's for sure.
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Post by normcoleman on Sept 3, 2007 16:10:56 GMT -5
No...the most I would have done was fined all involved and have a laugh about it
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Post by radicalbuttercup on Sept 3, 2007 16:11:25 GMT -5
Uhm..so..they allegedly released over a rib? And Randy Orton do whatever he pleases and only receive a slap on the wrist? I call shenanigans. SHENANIGANS. They should put Cade, Murdoch and the ref in a stable and call them Captain Bringdown and The Buzzkilllers. It's kinda simple. Randy Orton is more important than Cryme Tyme. Randy Orton has also been with the company way longer than Cryme Tyme, who've only been there for about a year. They 'assaulted' a referee and took his belt to put themselves over. The referee, if he wanted, could sue, for them attacking him without his consent or it being in the script. I really think "attacking" is stretching it. I couldn't see that flying in a court. If it went "Cryme Tyme's unscripted attack leaves ref injured"..sure..but I doubt the guy was even hurt. All's I'm saying..released? BUFFOONERY. A fine? Acceptable. It's a bone headed move from all parties..but..then again..no one knows the particulars yet. I still stand that they shouldn't have been released until I get solid info. Yeah. Orton never did that. He only harassed a pair of women, been suspended for steroids, suspended for drug use, and threw a hissy fit and trashed a hotel. My point in bringing him up is..why wasn't he released? If your higher up on the card you get what..500 strikes? If Orton did the same thing as Cryme Tyme he would get off scott free? Not setting much of an example.
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Post by Richard on Sept 3, 2007 16:16:57 GMT -5
This is what PWI had in the last audio update (not word for word but, you get the idea):
The PWI Audio update and the are backing the ribbing story but, adding that Cade came up with the rib after they tried to set the match up. Cryme Tyme apparently didn't understand how it was going to happen and when Cade told them they would figure it out in the ring, CT made the "Yeah, we'll see what happens in the ring" perceived threat. Murdoch wasn't happy with it but, went along.
Anyway after the match the agents (Barry Windham mentioned specifically) got onto to them for shooting on the ref, which upset CT. A few veterans went to talk to CT and told them to not worry about it, apologize and move on. CT refused to apologize and this upset the boys who thought they were now disrespecting the vets who were trying to instruct them on locker room etiquette. Word got to Ace who brought them in for a meeting and let them go. They were given every chance to apologize and move on but, didn't so they were let go.
WWE isn't going to be putting up with any problems right now given the current climate (unless of course you're Cena, HHH or another top name like that). The feeling is for every problem person we have there are 100 more that want to be here that wont be one.
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Post by krazykarl77 on Sept 3, 2007 17:44:34 GMT -5
they should have been reprimanded but to quote michael cole...
NOt THIS WAY
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Post by GregP19 on Sept 3, 2007 18:22:48 GMT -5
i voted for wait till the facts...It had to have been something REALLY REALLY BAD for them to have gotten fired, not just stiffing C/M and stealing the ref belt. Did they have heat prior to this? They were so f***ing over and the highlight of RAW for me.
As for Randy Orton comparisons...of course he is gonna get better treatment than most of the roster because he is higher up then them. If Peyton Manning and Jim Sorgi both went buckwild on a hotel room guess who's getting a slap on the rist and who is getting cut. Peyton and Randy both have more on their shoulders and the Colts/WWE have more to lose if they are bereft of them. Not saying its right, but hey...
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Sept 3, 2007 18:25:29 GMT -5
So...if they just APOLOGIZED they would be fine?
It's there fault in every sense if they had three or four chances to apologize and say sorry for shooting on the ref.
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Post by joeman on Sept 3, 2007 18:38:35 GMT -5
Randy Orton has nothing to do with this.
It seems whenever a wrestler gets fired people here make it all seem that it is all WWE's fault. Why are smarks so keen on being anti-authority?
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Post by doytch on Sept 3, 2007 18:44:02 GMT -5
i think when cryme tyme kept stealing and selling stuff they got illegal for it. i heard wwe suspended wrestlers i think if this might be why!
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Post by edgehead on Sept 3, 2007 18:49:58 GMT -5
Anyone know who the referee of the match was?
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 3, 2007 18:55:27 GMT -5
I voted yes. They screwed up, had a chance to make it right, and refused to do so. Good riddance.
As far as the Orton argument goes, I've been in favor of firing him (and maybe even moreso JBL) for quite some time now. Sadly, it isn't going to happen because they're bigger names and are in with the higher people.
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Post by Chucklehead,baby!!! on Sept 4, 2007 1:16:16 GMT -5
the public has spoken. overwhelmingly people think they shouldnt have been fired either just yet or at all.
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Post by The OP on Sept 4, 2007 6:35:11 GMT -5
They should've been fired, but not for that.
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Post by willywonka666 on Sept 4, 2007 6:50:25 GMT -5
I bet it was Doan
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Post by The Spotlight on Sept 4, 2007 6:58:32 GMT -5
-shrug-
Cryme Tyme sounds like they probably were in one of those situation Dave Chapelle liked to coin keeping it real.
Kind of like two dude being paid to act like cliche hood black dudes, acting like cliche hood black dudes.
-shrug-
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Sept 4, 2007 7:02:34 GMT -5
Screw WWE. They could have tried to probably fine them or something, but firing, hell no. They fired the most-over tag team for the stupidest reason IMO that would have been commonplace 10-20 years ago.
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Post by jzbadblood on Sept 4, 2007 7:05:42 GMT -5
YES
1. They suck.
2. They're annoying and a waste of space.
3. They risked the life of an untrained official to get themselves over. You don't take risks like that when you were not told to.
Those two deserved to be fired. I'm glad I never have to see the dumbass Cryme Tyme crap again.
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Post by rzombie1988 on Sept 4, 2007 7:17:33 GMT -5
No, they shouldn't have. If Orton can crap in bags and damage hotel rooms, Holly can get stiff with whoever he pleases, then there's no reason why Cryme Tyme should have been canned. It's a complete double standard.
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