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Post by smartcenadude on Sept 4, 2007 23:10:28 GMT -5
There must be some serious shit going on with things how theyve been the past week
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Post by Parrish on Sept 4, 2007 23:11:10 GMT -5
Rajah is reporting that Randy Orton took a crap in Flair's bag
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Post by thepatriot on Sept 4, 2007 23:11:35 GMT -5
Khali is thee single worst world champion in history, all of his matches have sucked, he is basically a side show attraction.
Morrison was the best champion the WWE had in years...awesome on the mic and in the ring.
Yeah Ric Flair is 400 years old...but he deserves MUCH better than this...MUCH better. Not a friggen title reign..but an emotional farewell match wouldn't be asking to much.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 4, 2007 23:12:32 GMT -5
Ok, Morrison is actually talented, just not on the mic. And sure if Flair wanted to go to ECW, I'd have no problem with him being champ considering he's got absolutely no competition, still I wouldn't recommend because he's Ric smurfing Flair and don't forget how bad he was with the IC title a while back. And Khali, yes Flair is a billion light years better than Khali, but like I said before 2 WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT. Just because favoritism falls on the head of Khali becoming champ doesn't mean that Flair is owed anything because of it. He has nothing to prove to us or himself, absolutely nothing. Morrison is talented, but I can't see him as main event, at least not yet. And if they're going to put the belt on a "wrong guy", they may as well put it one who is actually over. Flair is. Khali is not, and I don't think Morrison really is yet either. I wouldn't see it as a wrong at all, and I'm betting the vast majority of people buying tickets wouldn't either. |
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Post by rra on Sept 4, 2007 23:12:33 GMT -5
Flair in a ROH match would be cool. Not a good match at all, but still......it would be similar of sorts to when Terry Funk lent his career-rep to those ECW punks up in Philly. Not exactly, but hey, be nice to see Major League Prick Flair in front of the smarks.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 4, 2007 23:19:44 GMT -5
Khali is thee single worst world champion in history, all of his matches have sucked, he is basically a side show attraction. Agreed Morrison was the best champion the WWE had in years...awesome on the mic and in the ring. He is good in the ring, but he just lacks something on the mic; intensity He seems like he's reading cue cards and has absolutely no rythum And I hate to say it, Cena is the best champion. That doesn't mean that I'm not sick of his run because I'd hope for a miracle fluke to knock him off his thrown. Yeah Ric Flair is 400 years old...but he deserves MUCH better than this...MUCH better. Not a friggen title reign..but an emotional farewell match wouldn't be asking to much. This isn't the end for Flair. He'll be back. He needs no farewell at this point and he'll have his chance at the HOF ceremony that he'll get in with no problem. And I'm sure he'll have at least one match after that which they'll say is "his farewell", which is a lie. At this point, Flair can actually BENEFIT wrestling as a whole if he just moved arund the independent scene for a while. While most people wouldn't buy a ticket to SD soley to see Ric Flair, having him show up at say ROH or something can really perk the attention of the casual fans who don't know a lot about ROH but might give it a try after knowing he's there. |
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 4, 2007 23:23:14 GMT -5
Vince has a reason to be there, he owns the smurfing place That's a reason for Vince to be there. It's not a reason for him to win the ECW title and have matches with Trips, HBK, and Lashley. |
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 4, 2007 23:25:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't see it as a wrong at all, and I'm betting the vast majority of people buying tickets wouldn't either. It isn't a wrong but it's not something that is wise for business. He has nothing to prove at this point, it would be almost better if he just went to the distance and felt that it wasn't enough and thanked the fans and retired. Because it doesn't make sense for someone to win the title and retire with it, why? First off, if you still "have it" then it makes no sense to quit, this is the sense in any sport where someone will only go down after realizing that they'll never get up the mountain again. Second, what would him retiring with the belt prove? How would it benefit wrestling? Who would get the ultimate Ric Flair rub? It just seems more logical to have him go the distance, lose and thank everyone who still supported him. And the people who buy tickets nowadays, how many of them buy a ticket on the primary reason to see Ric Flair? Because most people I've seen go there to see Batista, Mysterio and the Undertaker (marks) or are there to see the younger talented cruiserweights or technicians (smarks) |
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 4, 2007 23:30:18 GMT -5
Vince has a reason to be there, he owns the smurfing place That's a reason for Vince to be there. It's not a reason for him to win the ECW title and have matches with Trips, HBK, and Lashley. Oh I wholeheartedly agree, he should have no reason as to be in the ring at all. But just remember he did win the title with some serious help from at least 3 other guys, I doubt a thumb to the eye or a quick roll up after a few chops and punches are going to help make Ric Flair look legit even as a heelish face. |
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Post by John Oates' Moustache on Sept 4, 2007 23:37:20 GMT -5
TNA hiring Flair as a booker would probably spell disaster for WWE if done right now.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 4, 2007 23:38:18 GMT -5
I'm not saying Flair should retire with the belt. Truthfully, I don't think he should. I would have him win it, hold it for a couple of weeks, maybe to the next PPV, then drop it to somebody. I'd prefer it to be a younger guy on the brink of the main event scene, but that's going to be hard to find on Smackdown now.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 4, 2007 23:42:05 GMT -5
We're comparing Morrison to Ric Flair now?
Granted Naitch has lost about fifteen steps since his heyday, no one can seriously deny that; but Morrison has a few years before he's close to approaching what Flair was even say five years ago.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 4, 2007 23:44:03 GMT -5
And what I would love to see honestly? Flair offscreen for a few months, and then returns to mentor/corrupt a newly heel Cody Rhodes. How cool would that be? Naitch mentoring the Dream's kid.
That'd be if I was writing, and I'm obviously not.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 4, 2007 23:45:07 GMT -5
We're comparing Morrison to Ric Flair now? Granted Naitch has lost about fifteen steps since his heyday, no one can seriously deny that; but Morrison has a few years before he's close to approaching what Flair was even say five years ago. Amen |
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Sept 4, 2007 23:49:45 GMT -5
FLAIR VS. MISAWA ON 11/3!!!!!!!!!!!
That would be my dream.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 4, 2007 23:54:21 GMT -5
I'm not saying Flair should retire with the belt. Truthfully, I don't think he should. I would have him win it, hold it for a couple of weeks, maybe to the next PPV, then drop it to somebody. I'd prefer it to be a younger guy on the brink of the main event scene, but that's going to be hard to find on Smackdown now. But that's exactly my point! Showing that Flair still has "it" only further drives his character (and quite possibly the real man) to hold onto his legacy for several more years. Showing that you can still be a top guy at 60 years old doesn't look good on the rest of the SD roster (no matter how crappy it is at this point). |
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 4, 2007 23:58:37 GMT -5
If he's the best they've got on the show, I don't see a problem with it. Plus, the talk has been that he was going to retire at Mania anyway. Why not have him win the belt at No Way Out or whatever the pre-Mania PPV is, drop it to some young guy, and retire in-ring on "the grandest stage of them all"?
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Sept 5, 2007 0:01:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't have a problem with Flair getting one last run with the Big Gold Belt if done properly. How would I do it? Glad you asked. Batista tries and tries, but can't beat Khali. Even after his 100th title shot, he just can't do it. He goes to his mentor, Ric Flair, and asks for advice. Flair cuts one of those "Carlito" promos (remember the awesomeness that was the "shoot" promo?) and basically calls Big Dave lazy, unmotivated, and less talented than he thinks he is, and that's why he hasn't won the title. Bats gets pissed, and Flair puts out the challenge to the Great Khali. First match, Flair loses. He demands a rematch, and is granted it due to "lack of competition." Second match, Flair takes Khali off his feet, almost applies the figure-four, but Khali squeaks out a win. Third match, pay-per-view. No holds barred. Flair lives up to his "dirties player in the game" moniker and cheats like hell to beat Khali. I'm talking nutshots, charishots, the works. Finally he pins Khali while applying the figure-four, and the crowd goes ape-spit. Flair cuts a promo saying he's still got it, he always knew it, and guys like Dave Batista are a dime a dozen and can't get the job done. He says that experience trumps muscles, and brain overcomes brawn. He then announces his retirement, and Teddy Long announces a tournament for the vacant title, won by whomever they see fit at the time. I should book for WWE. I really should......  |
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Sept 5, 2007 0:06:06 GMT -5
Yeah, Matt, you actually really should. That would be amazing, and would actually get me some desire to see Flair back in the game one more time. 'cause for the past couple of years I've honestly been bored by him.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 5, 2007 0:06:30 GMT -5
If he's the best they've got on the show, I don't see a problem with it. Plus, the talk has been that he was going to retire at Mania anyway. Why not have him win the belt at No Way Out or whatever the pre-Mania PPV is, drop it to some young guy, and retire in-ring on "the grandest stage of them all"? Again, you're not seeing my point. If they do give him a run, this only fuels him not to want to retire because a run with the belt is the equivalent of saying you're the top guy and you're needed. When most people retire, they don't retire on top and Flair isn't one of those guys who needs any sort of "thank you" for doing so much in his career, that's what the HOF is for, a "thank you". His career has been winding down and any rejuvenation might make him truly think otherwise about retirement. |
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