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Post by Arturo Classico on Sept 10, 2007 22:55:21 GMT -5
TNA Headquarters Monday morning... Jeff: "Now, I know we thought we had out swerved WWE by bringing in Pacman and having him win the Tag Titles without doing anything.. and making Angle every champion... and by playing off the real life alcohol problems of Rhino.. but dammit... they got a better swerve... THEY MADE HORNSWAGGLE Vince's son...DAMMIT.. how do we compete?" Dixie: "You guys always tell me to sign someone when we want to increase the ratings.. let's do that!" Russo: "No.. we'll just have to outswerve them and then have a payoff match with the best gimmick match ever" *Flash forward to Cornette reading the announcement from the TNA Board of Director's* Cornette: "And now... I'd like to reveal to you... James Mitchell's new monster... ... .... oh god you're kidding.... Norman Smiley and Ralphus in a two piece horse costume??? ....... .... okay... and they will take on Abyss in a .. rousing game of pin the tail on the donkey where you don't use blindfolds and there will be a ten judge panel to determine the winner based on the form of the placement and then the winner gets a jet pack... GOD DAMMIT... I quit.. all I wanted was to see some good ol fashion ass kicking and woman beating here in TNA... and I get this.." Wait but Ralphus and Norman were hilarious!
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 10, 2007 22:56:00 GMT -5
Because TNA aren't allowed to have entertainment over wrestling. It's evil. So in otherwords you're just b****ing? I thought I was discussing and giving opinions.
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Post by The"threadicidal"bristolspapa on Sept 10, 2007 22:56:46 GMT -5
Now that I think about this, I think a better storyline altogether would have been to find out that Vince McMahon had a brother, and that Vince Sr actually willed the company to that person. That would threaten Vince's position in the eyes of the fans. That's what made the attitude era great. The perception that Vince was fighting each week for his livelihood (in kayfabe and for real I guess).
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 10, 2007 22:57:08 GMT -5
Last time I'm gonna mention it, stop with the personal attacks. I hate to be 'that guy', but next one to do so gets the whole warning thing.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 10, 2007 22:57:42 GMT -5
TNA Headquarters Monday morning... Jeff: "Now, I know we thought we had out swerved WWE by bringing in Pacman and having him win the Tag Titles without doing anything.. and making Angle every champion... and by playing off the real life alcohol problems of Rhino.. but dammit... they got a better swerve... THEY MADE HORNSWAGGLE Vince's son...DAMMIT.. how do we compete?" Dixie: "You guys always tell me to sign someone when we want to increase the ratings.. let's do that!" Russo: "No.. we'll just have to outswerve them and then have a payoff match with the best gimmick match ever" *Flash forward to Cornette reading the announcement from the TNA Board of Director's* Cornette: "And now... I'd like to reveal to you... James Mitchell's new monster... ... .... oh god you're kidding.... Norman Smiley and Ralphus in a two piece horse costume??? ....... .... okay... and they will take on Abyss in a .. rousing game of pin the tail on the donkey where you don't use blindfolds and there will be a ten judge panel to determine the winner based on the form of the placement and then the winner gets a jet pack... GOD DAMMIT... I quit.. all I wanted was to see some good ol fashion ass kicking and woman beating here in TNA... and I get this.." Wait but Ralphus and Norman were hilarious! I know... I know... quite possibly the funniest thing ever, but I couldn't think of any other two people to wear a two pieced animal costume. For some reason, I feel like they did it in WCW...
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Sept 10, 2007 22:57:51 GMT -5
This could have all been avoided if they just woulda used that guy from the first season of Tough Enough.
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Post by wwod on Sept 10, 2007 22:58:01 GMT -5
I'm really suprised that things were'nt thrown at the ring.
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Sept 10, 2007 22:58:14 GMT -5
This could have all been avoided if they just woulda used that guy from the first season of Tough Enough. Maven?
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Post by Jiren on Sept 10, 2007 22:58:17 GMT -5
Now that I think about this, I think a better storyline altogether would have been to find out that Vince McMahon had a brother, and that Vince Sr actually willed the company to that person. That would threaten Vince's position in the eyes of the fans. That's what made the attitude era great. The perception that Vince was fighting each week for his livelihood (in kayfabe and for real I guess). reminds me of the Flair/Mcmahon feud in which Flair owned %50.
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Sept 10, 2007 22:58:45 GMT -5
I'm really suprised that things were'nt thrown at the ring. ...WHY?! People. LOVE. HORNSWOGGLE. God, he's a fan favorite. People love the little midget who plays the evil sidekick.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 10, 2007 22:58:52 GMT -5
Now that I think about this, I think a better storyline altogether would have been to find out that Vince McMahon had a brother, and that Vince Sr actually willed the company to that person. That would threaten Vince's position in the eyes of the fans. That's what made the attitude era great. The perception that Vince was fighting each week for his livelihood (in kayfabe and for real I guess). That woulda been interesting. Or maybe play upon the real life deal where if Vince ever missed a payment the company would revert to the conglomerate of original partners that Gorilla Monsoon and those guys were a part of. Introduce someone representing them.. something.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 10, 2007 22:59:30 GMT -5
I'm really suprised that things were'nt thrown at the ring. ...WHY?! People. LOVE. HORNSWOGGLE. God, he's a fan favorite. People love the little midget who plays the evil sidekick. Yeah, dumb angle, but when they panned the crowd people were smiling.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Sept 10, 2007 22:59:56 GMT -5
I honestly think that this was planned the whole time. I think in the coming weeks we will see that HHH came up with the idea to mess with Vince. It will come out that he hired a fake lawyer to play some mind games with Vince leading to a bigger storyline. They don't want to label someone as Vince's son since anyone can be let go at anytime. It would be a horrible idea to make Kennedy or anyone else as the son in a serious angle. This is the safer road and it accomplished what they wanted....get everyone talking. I See your point, but I have the feeling that nobody will remember that so much as they remember all the build-up for a little person dry-humping a guys leg.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Sept 10, 2007 23:00:19 GMT -5
If TNA did this, there wouldn't be a single supporter of it. Probably true.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Sept 10, 2007 23:00:29 GMT -5
This could have all been avoided if they just woulda used that guy from the first season of Tough Enough. Maven? No. During the first season, one of the early contestants just trying out was a dude who went by the gimmick of "Vince McMahon's Illegitimate Son." He made an angry face and everything.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 10, 2007 23:00:52 GMT -5
Now that I think about this, I think a better storyline altogether would have been to find out that Vince McMahon had a brother, and that Vince Sr actually willed the company to that person. That would threaten Vince's position in the eyes of the fans. That's what made the attitude era great. The perception that Vince was fighting each week for his livelihood (in kayfabe and for real I guess). That's too smart. Ya know... start it by saying "Vince McMahon had a bastard son" And then have someone come out that's older than Vince... and reveal it was Vince McMahon senior and that he never trusted Vince to run his World Wrestling Federation. Then a long battle up to WrestleMania to decide who keeps the WWE. Not bad. Not bad.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 10, 2007 23:00:58 GMT -5
I sort of disagree with the "at least this didn't ruin Kennedy" sentiments. I think Kennedy's charismatic enough and talented enough on the stick to have shaken any negative long-term stigma associated with being "McMahon's son". And if he couldn't have shaken the stigma, and he were eventually fired from WWE or left for somewhere else, who's to say that being marked forever as "Vince's son" would've worked out in a bad way for Kennedy? He could've used that as an interesting angle when he entered somewhere else.
He could have it bite WWE in the ass by still playing up the fact that he was "Vince McMahon's son" if he wanted to, and worked it right, sort of like how Bischoff used Scott Hall to name drop those cheesy-ass Billionaire Ted and Nacho Man WWF skits in his first Nitro promo...but "from the WWF's side". Vince McMahon's "son" trying to get a job in ROH or TNA would be fun. Use Vince's own bad ideas against him. Kennedy wouldn't be able to call himself "Mr. Kennedy" outside of WWE, but he could've always alluded to being "Vince's son" (with a wink). That label wouldn't have Red Rooster'd Kennedy's career if he chose to use it to his advantage, and he's one of the few performers entertaining enough to make that bad idea work in his favor.
But yeah, Hornswoggle is kinda lame, and they telegraphed the hell out of it with the "he has a fondness for gold" second clue. From there, it felt like waiting ten more minutes for a dumb payoff...and I love how HHH made sure he was involved on camera the entire time. I can already picture the screencap of HHH patting Hornswoggle's head in the WrestleCrap induction.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Sept 10, 2007 23:01:12 GMT -5
Guys Hornswoggle is going to usher in the new Attitude era, he's going to be more popular then Stone Cold, The Rock, and Hulk Hogan combined.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 10, 2007 23:02:44 GMT -5
Now that I think about this, I think a better storyline altogether would have been to find out that Vince McMahon had a brother, and that Vince Sr actually willed the company to that person. That would threaten Vince's position in the eyes of the fans. That's what made the attitude era great. The perception that Vince was fighting each week for his livelihood (in kayfabe and for real I guess). That woulda been interesting. Or maybe play upon the real life deal where if Vince ever missed a payment the company would revert to the conglomerate of original partners that Gorilla Monsoon and those guys were a part of. Introduce someone representing them.. something. Woah woah woah.. I've never heard this story about Monsoon + partners!! Sounds like the most exciting thing I can learn about at 12AM EST.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Sept 10, 2007 23:04:15 GMT -5
Now that I think about this, I think a better storyline altogether would have been to find out that Vince McMahon had a brother, and that Vince Sr actually willed the company to that person. That would threaten Vince's position in the eyes of the fans. That's what made the attitude era great. The perception that Vince was fighting each week for his livelihood (in kayfabe and for real I guess). And Vince's illegitimate brother is.............ERIC BISCHOFF-MCMAHON!!!!!!!!! Hey WWE Creative I can book better than you! It makes sense for so many reasons. Number one Vince fired Bischoff and Eric wants to get revenge. Two Vince "killed" his company. Three is a competive prick like Vince and wants to take over the WWE Empire, for mostly his own greed and Vince wants to keep whats his. Wow now thats an intreasting storyline to go into Wrestlemania in a street fight for the ownership of WWE. Way better than Hornswoggle being the son.
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