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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 10, 2007 23:23:15 GMT -5
If you play off people's real emotions towards the fear of having a child that's not "normal", you could really hit home with a solid angle. We're in a society that strives for being normal.. and if you made it a little serious, and showed Hornswoggle as really trying to gain his father's love and respect, despite his dad's own "pre-determined viewpoints". It could be great.. but you'd have to give Paul Heyman the book, revert back via time travel to 1995, replace Vince with Shane Douglas, make Hornswoggle a regular dwarf (no Irish leprachaun stuff), and make the angle serious and really really hit people close to their hearts and keep comedy as far out of it as possible. Wrestling's never the place to look for serious social commentary IMO. Broad caricatures yes, in depth satire that cuts to the core of emotional hot buttons, not so much.
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Post by Stotty on Sept 10, 2007 23:26:28 GMT -5
agreed
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Post by Sir Bill of Chainsawberg on Sept 10, 2007 23:31:18 GMT -5
Wow. Just, wow. That just plain sucked.
Yeah. I'm going to stop watching WWE for a while.
It's the Gooker, reincarnated, kids. Pure garbage.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 10, 2007 23:31:51 GMT -5
If you play off people's real emotions towards the fear of having a child that's not "normal", you could really hit home with a solid angle. We're in a society that strives for being normal.. and if you made it a little serious, and showed Hornswoggle as really trying to gain his father's love and respect, despite his dad's own "pre-determined viewpoints". It could be great.. but you'd have to give Paul Heyman the book, revert back via time travel to 1995, replace Vince with Shane Douglas, make Hornswoggle a regular dwarf (no Irish leprachaun stuff), and make the angle serious and really really hit people close to their hearts and keep comedy as far out of it as possible. Wrestling's never the place to look for serious social commentary IMO. Broad caricatures yes, in depth satire that cuts to the core of emotional hot buttons, not so much. Truth.. but still, there was a time in ECW where serious angles worked. Sandman/Raven over Tyler Fullington for example. Pitbulls/Franchise where Franchise grabbed a legitly broken necked Gary Wolf by the Halo and shook him... another. I doubt it would work in WWE. But there is a place for serious social commentary in any form of entertainment. You just need to have the right atmosphere and audience
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 10, 2007 23:33:38 GMT -5
*Flash forward to Cornette reading the announcement from the TNA Board of Director's* Cornette: "And now... I'd like to reveal to you... James Mitchell's new monster... ... .... oh god you're kidding.... Norman Smiley and Ralphus in a two piece horse costume??? ....... .... okay... and they will take on Abyss in a .. rousing game of pin the tail on the donkey where you don't use blindfolds and there will be a ten judge panel to determine the winner based on the form of the placement and then the winner gets a jet pack... GOD DAMMIT... I quit.. all I wanted was to see some good ol fashion ass kicking and woman beating here in TNA... and I get this.." I might actually pay money to see that.
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Post by vincesson on Sept 10, 2007 23:36:40 GMT -5
See, I don't get the 'ex girlfriend' analogy at all really for the simple fact that to me, it's a tv show I enjoy watching, that sometimes is better than others, when it's good I really enjoy it, when it's bad, meh there's always next week. No way this can surpass normal Wrestlecrap and go right towards the Hall of Fame. Look at all the great possibilities for the WWE creative staff The new DX - Hornswoggle and Triple H with bag pipers playing the DX theme Hornswoggle meets the family and humps Linda's leg New Raw GM Hornswoggle - first week 60 minutes of riveting Randy Orton interviews and Great Khali / Big Show matche reruns King of the Ring won by King Hornswoggle Hornswoggle teaches Santino Morrelli how to control his anger and sleeps with Maria Hornswoggle sleeps with Vinces Mom and becomes his own Grandpa Hornswoggle gets drunk and dances on McMahon's dad's grave Hornswoggle wins Diva Search Hornswoggle brings back Hillbilly JIm and challenge King Kong Bundy to a Midget Squashing Revenge Match Hornswoggle gets Coachman as his personal valet and the two of them have a year long feud with Michael Cole Triple HHH goes under the ring to get his sledgehammer and finds Hornswoggle having an affair with it Hornswoggle forms his own stable with the fat male dancer guy, Santino Morelli, and Golddust as the New Nation of Domination and win the tag belts on Smackdown I think that WWE Creative can easily turn this into something that would make me wish a Diva's match was on.
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Post by casualobserver on Sept 10, 2007 23:38:28 GMT -5
So how many of you would've iever imagined that Hornswoggle's music would be played to end a Raw?
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 10, 2007 23:38:31 GMT -5
See, I don't get the 'ex girlfriend' analogy at all really for the simple fact that to me, it's a tv show I enjoy watching, that sometimes is better than others, when it's good I really enjoy it, when it's bad, meh there's always next week. No way this can surpass normal Wrestlecrap and go right towards the Hall of Fame. Look at all the great possibilities for the WWE creative staff The new DX - Hornswoggle and Triple H with bag pipers playing the DX theme Hornswoggle meets the family and humps Linda's leg New Raw GM Hornswoggle - first week 60 minutes of riveting Randy Orton interviews and Great Khali / Big Show matche reruns King of the Ring won by King Hornswoggle Hornswoggle teaches Santino Morrelli how to control his anger and sleeps with Maria Hornswoggle sleeps with Vinces Mom and becomes his own Grandpa Hornswoggle gets drunk and dances on McMahon's dad's grave Hornswoggle wins Diva Search Hornswoggle brings back Hillbilly JIm and challenge King Kong Bundy to a Midget Squashing Revenge Match Hornswoggle gets Coachman as his personal valet and the two of them have a year long feud with Michael Cole Triple HHH goes under the ring to get his sledgehammer and finds Hornswoggle having an affair with it Hornswoggle forms his own stable with the fat male dancer guy, Santino Morelli, and Golddust as the New Nation of Domination and win the tag belts on Smackdown I think that WWE Creative can easily turn this into something that would make me wish a Diva's match was on. This is probably going to end up being very very closely based off McMahon trying to "civilize" Mankind. Except.. well, people cared about Foley and he put on great matches and it really made sense in the storyline and um.. he was Foley.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 10, 2007 23:50:22 GMT -5
You guys scare me with your anger over a tv wrestling angle.
I do have to say, whoever had that Back to the Future Doc D-Lo Brown idea is pure genius. I'd mark hard for that.
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Post by gmanquik on Sept 10, 2007 23:51:37 GMT -5
You guys scare me with your anger over a tv wrestling angle. I do have to say, whoever had that Back to the Future Doc D-Lo Brown idea is pure genius. I'd mark hard for that. You're a couple years late, with all of the Cena hate running around.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 10, 2007 23:54:45 GMT -5
You guys scare me with your anger over a tv wrestling angle. I do have to say, whoever had that Back to the Future Doc D-Lo Brown idea is pure genius. I'd mark hard for that. Especially if Janetty's driving the DeLorean. f*** that'd rule.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 10, 2007 23:55:05 GMT -5
And the Trips hate before it. I'm just amazed that someone would get that upset over a tv show. I'd just stop watching.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 10, 2007 23:55:49 GMT -5
You guys scare me with your anger over a tv wrestling angle. I do have to say, whoever had that Back to the Future Doc D-Lo Brown idea is pure genius. I'd mark hard for that. Especially if Janetty's driving the DeLorean. smurf that'd rule. I found a way to get Miz over. Miz Tannen.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Sept 10, 2007 23:57:17 GMT -5
Especially if Janetty's driving the DeLorean. smurf that'd rule. I found a way to get Miz over. Miz Tannen. Brilliant.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Sept 10, 2007 23:57:24 GMT -5
So Hornswoggle really is a little bastard? How about that.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 10, 2007 23:57:44 GMT -5
I have posted my theory of the likeness. Again, I'm mark for the twenty year old reference.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 10, 2007 23:58:59 GMT -5
Hell, as far as celeb cameos go, Crispin Glover would be someone I'd kinda like to see in WWE. That weird sumbitch would be hilarious.
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Post by gmanquik on Sept 11, 2007 0:00:10 GMT -5
And the Trips hate before it. I'm just amazed that someone would get that upset over a tv show. I'd just stop watching. Totally agreed on that one, hence why I stopped watching TNA altogether, save for one week to see if it got better (which it got worse, actually) I enjoy the product currently, especially with Hornswoggle as the child. So I will continue to watch, and if others stop watching, then that's fine with me. Mauler is not a fanboy.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 11, 2007 0:01:10 GMT -5
If they could do special effects, Shane and Steph could start to fade away unless Hornswaggle can get any emotion out of Linda.
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Post by PTBartman on Sept 11, 2007 0:01:47 GMT -5
What a crock. Where are they gonna go with this now? They should've just waited a few more weeks for Kennedy. You know I'm reading and reading and then i got to your Post, so don't take this personal, it's more comment on eveything I've read not just yours. This was the perfect choice actually, Where can't they go? A couple comedy sketches with Vince And Hornswoggle (H doing the powere walk is gold) HHH using it to needle Vince Vince "rewarding" Finlay for keeping an eye on H all these years. Jamie noble getting on the boss's bad side for picking on his son In a few mo's we find out that Kennedy truly he was the son because him and H are Half brothers with the same Mother. this leads to a feud Kennedy vs Finlay for Hornswoggle and therefore Vince's affection Shane and steph decide Hornswoggle has to go Who defends him? His half Brother and his Mentor tell me you wouldn't mark out for a Shane/HHH(mr Steph) vs Finlay and Kennedy feud all for Hornswoggles birth right? Like I said theres all kinds of places you can go with this. And the more I write the more I like this.
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