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Post by Just Jay on Sept 11, 2007 12:16:35 GMT -5
Exactly.
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Post by Joekishi on Sept 11, 2007 12:18:03 GMT -5
If you're insulted by stupid humor involving midgets, I think pro wrestling may not be for you. Pro wrestling doesn't have to be about stupid humor and midgets. Over the hill promoters and overpaid hack writers are the ones that keep pushing those two ideals to the current wrestling promotions. I'm sorry that you take pro wrestling so seriously. Seriously I am. Midgets and pro wrestling always mix well. Cuije has a problem with you. I thought the end result was fitting and well not like i'd want to see kennedy involved in this goofy of a storyline. hornswoggle got a mega pop last night
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Post by randomranter on Sept 11, 2007 12:19:30 GMT -5
Matt Hardy. Jeff Hardy. A returning Chris Jericho. MVP Carlito Val Venis Kenny Dykstra. Obviously, they haven't secured Chris Jericho's contract, and people would have moaned at how long this would have drawn out. Matt Hardy's doing fine enough as it is. He doesn't need to be dragged into the whole McMahon family business. Same with Jeff and MVP. It appears as though Carlito just got a rekindled push, and is facing Triple H. There's no way he can't feed off the NO DQ match for himself only. Val Venis= Rikishi. Really, it would have had the same effect. The crowed would have been DEAD. Kenny Dykstra seems far to generic for his own right to get a push. Also, he's been here for not even a year I think. That's my argument, but I'm curious to see what yourself and others think. Those are valid points, but in up right opinion, you either pull the trigger or pull the plug. Vinny Mac pulled the plug given the circumstances. I think you misunderstood my point. The point I was trying to make was that there were better choices out there than Hornswoggle. Is Kenny Dykstra deserving of a main event push? Hell no. But Vince wants him to succeed, and since the angle was dead anyway, I could see them giving the push to Dykstra in attempt #342 to get him over. It probably wouldn't have worked, but I'd rather have seen them at least try to get someone new over than just blow off the angle entirely. Val Venis has always been over with the fans, even though he's been a jobber for years. I could see this angle rekindling his career. MVP will probably make main event without the help of an angle like this, but he's a good example of a top midcarder on the edge of making it to the main event, but needing that one final push. This could have been it. The same could be said about Carlito, Matt, and Jeff Hardy, to varying degrees. They just need that one big break. Even if you disagree with my assessments, the main point I was trying to make was that, even if the angle would have failed, it still would have been a better choice than Hornswoggle.
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Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Sept 11, 2007 12:21:11 GMT -5
I don't think there was a better choice than Hornswoggle. Beyond Kennedy which would have ended up with the same you're not really my son storyline.
Hornswoggle is a goofy end to a goofy storyline
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Post by Arturo Classico on Sept 11, 2007 12:24:16 GMT -5
I don't think there was a better choice than Hornswoggle. Beyond Kennedy which would have ended up with the same you're not really my son storyline. Hornswoggle is a goofy end to a goofy storyline &Yeah good point, they needed to end it but it's such a bad way to do it. If it was me booking I'd have it be Ron Simmons. Than he grabs the mic and say................DAMN! that would have been better and actually funny, mocking midgets are not funny to me and you have to have one chromosome to laugh at that. After seeing that I just sat there in silence.
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Post by mysterydriver on Sept 11, 2007 12:35:09 GMT -5
Perfect Decision: 1. He's over 2. The comedy skits write themselves 3. You don't permanently "mark" one of your real wrestlers. #3 is most important. Sure, they could have used a higher profile guy, but then that guy's a McMahon FOREVER. With Hornswagell, you're not writing yourself into a corner. All the way from page one, I agree with this person. If you truly hated last night, blame Kennedy. He forced the WWE in a corner and they used the best possible alternative. Although, I'm shocked that some people would be so upset at the ending of an angle that has centered around comedy ending with a comedy segment. I do understand those affended because Hornswoggle is short. I'm not sure I agree with them though. I'd really have to think about it.
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odor31
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Post by odor31 on Sept 11, 2007 12:36:25 GMT -5
Hornswoggle got a job because he is short though, so it works both ways.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Sept 11, 2007 12:57:41 GMT -5
If you truly hated last night, blame Kennedy. He forced the WWE in a corner and they used the best possible alternative. Although, I'm shocked that some people would be so upset at the ending of an angle that has centered around comedy ending with a comedy segment. Good point...
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Post by Joekishi on Sept 11, 2007 13:01:41 GMT -5
Yeah I mean when you mark a guy with serious potential as a mcmahon he'll be that guy forever and never really move beyond that, he'd also be looped with the goofy storyline.
I like this ending as it gets a comedy character more over.
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Post by mysterydriver on Sept 11, 2007 13:05:57 GMT -5
I wonder if Hornswoggle will play the "reject son" with Vince avoiding him or the "Mini-Me" with Vince embracing him.
Who knows, but at least Smackdown should get more attention now.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Sept 11, 2007 13:07:44 GMT -5
I wonder if Hornswoggle will play the "reject son" with Vince avoiding him or the "Mini-Me" with Vince embracing him. Who knows, but at least Smackdown should get more attention now. Kind of like Goldust and Mini-Dust following Booker T around, and Mini-Dust humping his leg. Only more high-profile. Hopefully it'll result in Hornswoggle getting crushed by two large Samoans.
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Post by Joekishi on Sept 11, 2007 13:08:02 GMT -5
I so want hornswoggle to become a mini-Vince.
Vince carrying around Hornswoggle in that back pack thing would be awesome.
dress him in the little suit.
McMahon Power Walk...lol
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Post by mysterydriver on Sept 11, 2007 13:09:26 GMT -5
I wonder if Hornswoggle will play the "reject son" with Vince avoiding him or the "Mini-Me" with Vince embracing him. Who knows, but at least Smackdown should get more attention now. Kind of like Goldust and Mini-Dust following Booker T around, and Mini-Dust humping his leg. Only more high-profile. Hopefully it'll result in Hornswoggle getting crushed by two large Samoans. I was thinking Hornswoggle in a McMahon suit. Hornswoggle doing the power strut. When Vince finally "accepts" him, he could let Hornswoggle fire someone. I think someone else in the thread mentioned something like these idea. EDIT: It seems like I'm not the only one wanting to see the power strut.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Sept 11, 2007 13:11:27 GMT -5
Hornswoggle could take over the Kiss My Ass club.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Sept 11, 2007 13:12:07 GMT -5
Hornswoggle could take over the Kiss My Ass club. He'd have to get up on a stool.
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Post by lildude8218 on Sept 11, 2007 13:31:28 GMT -5
Why was everyone so stuck on "It's obviously Kennedy cuz Meltz Keller told me so!"?
Especially when AFTER the storyline got re-launched, so to speak, with Vince having a bastard child rather than being dead, it was reported on several newz sites that Kennedy was no longer going to be the child and that it may wind up being female.
And since everyone seems to believe everything they read on the internet in regards to this angle. If Kennedy wasn't going to be the child then it's not his fault for "dropping the ball on the angle" and getting suspended because he was never the payoff in the first place.
As someone said in one of the first pages, no matter who wound up being the son, you would have all complained. Yes, I'm generalizing, because it really has gotten that bad around here. If it had been Triple H, people would've been pissed about them using an incest angle. If it had been Kennedy, people would've said "Ugh, what a waste, it was so obvious with all those over the top hints they gave us." I could probably go on with the rest of the damn roster and find a complaint that someone would have had.
Stop taking every single step the company takes as a personal attack on your life. Hornswoggle is Vince's son.....they didn't reach through the TV and smack you in your face. The Diva Search is happening....the same crappy waste of time that brought you your precious Maria and Michelle McCool....they didn't walk into your house and rape your wife. Whatever happens next week that several people will call "Gooker of the Year" is going to happen but it's a TV show, not an attack on your personal life.
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Post by Loki on Sept 11, 2007 13:36:14 GMT -5
Perfect Decision: 1. He's over 2. The comedy skits write themselves 3. You don't permanently "mark" one of your real wrestlers. #3 is most important. Sure, they could have used a higher profile guy, but then that guy's a McMahon FOREVER. With Hornswagell, you're not writing yourself into a corner. Yes, BUT they wasted more than a month of airtime for a comedy payoff that won't even lead to some matches (like the BoB and D-X reunion). It'd have worked fine as comedy relief bits, hadn't the buildup taken HOURS of valuable TV time they'd have used to, you know, promote new Superstars...
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Post by The OP on Sept 11, 2007 13:56:21 GMT -5
Why was everyone so stuck on "It's obviously Kennedy cuz Meltz Keller told me so!"? Especially when AFTER the storyline got re-launched, so to speak, with Vince having a bastard child rather than being dead, it was reported on several newz sites that Kennedy was no longer going to be the child and that it may wind up being female. And since everyone seems to believe everything they read on the internet in regards to this angle. If Kennedy wasn't going to be the child then it's not his fault for "dropping the ball on the angle" and getting suspended because he was never the payoff in the first place. As someone said in one of the first pages, no matter who wound up being the son, you would have all complained. Yes, I'm generalizing, because it really has gotten that bad around here. If it had been Triple H, people would've been pissed about them using an incest angle. If it had been Kennedy, people would've said "Ugh, what a waste, it was so obvious with all those over the top hints they gave us." I could probably go on with the rest of the damn roster and find a complaint that someone would have had. Stop taking every single step the company takes as a personal attack on your life. Hornswoggle is Vince's son.....they didn't reach through the TV and smack you in your face. The Diva Search is happening....the same crappy waste of time that brought you your precious Maria and Michelle McCool....they didn't walk into your house and rape your wife. Whatever happens next week that several people will call "Gooker of the Year" is going to happen but it's a TV show, not an attack on your personal life. I agree with this, but anytime I say something like that I get accused of either "being a sheep that likes anything WWE does" which isn't true or "caring too much what other people think" which is also not true. I just think the message board should be fun. *shrug*
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Post by Error on Sept 11, 2007 14:23:19 GMT -5
Why was everyone so stuck on "It's obviously Kennedy cuz Meltz Keller told me so!"? Especially when AFTER the storyline got re-launched, so to speak, with Vince having a bastard child rather than being dead, it was reported on several newz sites that Kennedy was no longer going to be the child and that it may wind up being female. And since everyone seems to believe everything they read on the internet in regards to this angle. If Kennedy wasn't going to be the child then it's not his fault for "dropping the ball on the angle" and getting suspended because he was never the payoff in the first place. I would agree but, the week the suspension were announced both the Observer and PWI said that Kennedy was to be the kid and laid out the storyline. Also, just going by what I saw, it looked like Kennedy was the kid as I don't WWE promoting this big of a storyline only to make the payoff a bit player on the "B" show in a comedy angle. But that's me Well said and agreed completely.
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Sept 11, 2007 14:30:02 GMT -5
Unbelievable.
WWE is a laughing stock.
Only this company could f*** the fans over like this and probably get away with it.
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