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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Sept 18, 2007 10:36:08 GMT -5
I need to vent about this, because I was all sorts of pissed off watching this last night. I'm sure all of this has already been said, but bear with me.
Okay. We have Triple H in a handicap match against the World Tag Team Champions. I understand that there is a need to push Triple H for the main event spot at Wrestlemania. But let's face it: The guy is mega-over as it is. Do you really need to push the guy at the expense of one of the other belts? What would've been the harm in Carlito running in and attacking Triple H just making it a no contest? None. Triple H isn't going to take a hit in popularity in it. But it does make Cade and Murdoch look bad when they get beat cleanly with a move that Triple H doesn't even use as a finisher, and adds nothing to the feud with Carlito. And more importantly, from this point forward, it makes anyone Cade and Murdoch beat look bad.
And what about London and Kendrick? Just when it seems that they're finally getting a decent crowd response (And they did get a pretty nice pop when they ran in to make the save), Triple H Pedigrees them both and totally kills it. Will it actually make a difference in the long run? Maybe, maybe not. But to push one guy at the expense of an entire division is bad business.
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Post by Desi on Sept 18, 2007 10:48:17 GMT -5
Although I don't think it's the outright burial some might think it is, I just hated it because it made NO SENSE. Any turn, or unexpected event in wrestling needs a chance to be explained, otherwise of course it makes no sense. Give it till the next Raw and see how the story plays out. But that's the thing, HHH didn't turn anything, especially with the crowd & announcers reaction to it. He just did it for the Hell of it. That's why it made no sense.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Sept 18, 2007 11:12:16 GMT -5
Any turn, or unexpected event in wrestling needs a chance to be explained, otherwise of course it makes no sense. Give it till the next Raw and see how the story plays out. But that's the thing, HHH didn't turn anything, especially with the crowd & announcers reaction to it. He just did it for the Hell of it. That's why it made no sense. Give it a chance to play out is all I'm saying. The WWE is running a business here. They do not decide to let HHH vent is ego on their flagship show. There is reason behind it. I mean, what do you think was said when they went over the segment in production meetings? 'This is where HHH beats them down for no reason'?. I can't see that personally. There was a reason behind it, even if it isn't obvoius yet.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Sept 18, 2007 11:14:23 GMT -5
RAW Spoiler for next week:
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Post by Joker on Sept 18, 2007 11:16:28 GMT -5
The main problem I have with this is that Londrick are faces, and RAW barely has any as it is.
It's the equivalent of having back in the day Hogan facing The Nasty boys, beating them then having the Mountie run in only for the Hart foundation to come in for the save to help him out only for hogan to legdrop both of them afterwards.
It ruins the face heel dynamic completely.
Comparing it to Austin is wrong, as Austin usually had a motive for doing it (Getting something from McMahon). Triple h has no motive and this was just random and added nothing.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Sept 18, 2007 11:19:26 GMT -5
The further adventures of Paul & Paul Thanks for the assist London. Wait a minute a rub? For this guy??? RAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still smiling huh??? RAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Triple H Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by DeuceDominoMark on Sept 18, 2007 11:39:43 GMT -5
If history has taught us anything, Triple HHH will bury a promising young superstar. KENNEDY RUN AWAY! Oh yeah, I almost forgot! Perhaps some good can come of this. Come 'ere, Kennedy, I'll give you a candy...
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Post by DeuceDominoMark on Sept 18, 2007 11:41:36 GMT -5
But that's the thing, HHH didn't turn anything, especially with the crowd & announcers reaction to it. He just did it for the Hell of it. That's why it made no sense. Give it a chance to play out is all I'm saying. The WWE is running a business here. They do not decide to let HHH vent is ego on their flagship show. There is reason behind it. I mean, what do you think was said when they went over the segment in production meetings? 'This is where HHH beats them down for no reason'?. I can't see that personally. There was a reason behind it, even if it isn't obvoius yet. Then um, pray tell, what was the marketing genius behind his half-hour promos in '03?
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Post by doytch on Sept 18, 2007 11:58:02 GMT -5
i have why everybody so upset. triple h is been the best wrestler in wwe for almost ten years now. he is champion for 10 times and kenrick and london are short and weak. how can anyone believe they are to compete with triple h. triple h is back from injury and it is faults of both carlito desmond and cade if they did not take the advantage. kendrick and london think they helped triple h but he could have done it themselves and he showed them.
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Post by Big L on Sept 18, 2007 11:59:02 GMT -5
i have why everybody so upset. triple h is been the best wrestler in wwe for almost ten years now. he is champion for 10 times and kenrick and london are short and weak. how can anyone believe they are to compete with triple h. triple h is back from injury and it is faults of both carlito desmond and cade if they did not take the advantage. kendrick and london think they helped triple h but he could have done it themselves and he showed them. INDEED!
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Post by ItsaSantino on Sept 18, 2007 12:15:17 GMT -5
Triple H didn't bury Londrick when he pedigreed them. He buried them when he showed he could single-handedly beat the two guys that Londrick lost to as a team even without using his finisher.
The only bright spot of this whole ego-stroke is that maybe it showed that the tag-team feud isn't over. Although in the grand scheme of things, Triple H made sure that this is irrelevent.
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on Sept 18, 2007 12:30:50 GMT -5
Triple H > London+Kendrik+Trevor+Lance+Carlito
This is not sarcasim either. Its true. Do the math
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Post by gmanquik on Sept 18, 2007 12:32:11 GMT -5
And again, I will say this: everyone is taking this far too seriously. The 'E is still making money, enough said.
Until people by the millions give up the product and stop buying all the merchandise and stop watching, and when the advertisers start disappearing (which is where the REAL money comes from, by the way), then it's not going to change, no matter how much you complain or bitch about it to us, or them, for that matter.
Vote with your damn remote already and quit whining if you don't like what's going on. If you want to complain or bellyache to someone about it, send some letters and emails to the WWE, and see what happens.
Nothing will happen, because the heart of it all, a moneymaking corporation, doesn't care about just a few people.
Make a petition, start picketing, and maybe you'll make an impact. Or maybe you'll just get arrested or censored. It's like buying a car. You buy it and drive it off the lot, and lose over half of its value as soon as you leave the lot. Putting money in the WWE as a feasible investment of your money and expecting quality constantly is a fallacy, and anyone who does so has a serious lack of good judgment, and quite frankly needs to find somewhere else to invest their money, like in mutual funds, or paying extra in bills.
Considering the WWE to be a 'good long-term investment' for your hard-earned dollar is not only stupid, but is quite insane, and this can go for almost anything else. Like 'Lost' or 'Heroes'? Putting your money into that as an 'investment' is just as dumb as putting it into almost any other form of media, whether it is music, video games, movies, or otherwise.
A fool and his money tend to quickly part ways.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Sept 18, 2007 12:33:21 GMT -5
Self gratification. Yeah, it sucks, but there's a group of writers at WWE headquarters that think this an award winning idea.
They're insane, but they applaud it like it's great, so...
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Post by gmanquik on Sept 18, 2007 12:35:56 GMT -5
Self gratification. Yeah, it sucks, but there's a group of writers at WWE headquarters that think this an award winning idea. They're insane, but they applaud it like it's great, so... Your post and my last post go hand in hand. We are PAYING them to gratify themselves. And whether you watch or not, if you buy the DVDs or the 24/7 service, you fuel this further, and they will continue to 'gratify' themselves. You said exactly what I wanted to say, but I just couldn't think of the right words. Thank you.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Sept 18, 2007 12:40:49 GMT -5
Self gratification. Yeah, it sucks, but there's a group of writers at WWE headquarters that think this an award winning idea. They're insane, but they applaud it like it's great, so... Your post and my last post go hand in hand. We are PAYING them to gratify themselves. And whether you watch or not, if you buy the DVDs or the 24/7 service, you fuel this further, and they will continue to 'gratify' themselves. You said exactly what I wanted to say, but I just couldn't think of the right words. Thank you. You're welcome. Can't wait 'til next week. Did you hear? THE RAW MAIN EVENT: TRIPLE H in a 30 MAN GAUNTLET MATCH! I wonder who's gonna win?
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Post by erisi236 on Sept 18, 2007 12:41:05 GMT -5
Meanwhile over in TNA Jay Lethal went clean over Kurt Angle.
Just saying ;D
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Post by gmanquik on Sept 18, 2007 12:46:41 GMT -5
Your post and my last post go hand in hand. We are PAYING them to gratify themselves. And whether you watch or not, if you buy the DVDs or the 24/7 service, you fuel this further, and they will continue to 'gratify' themselves. You said exactly what I wanted to say, but I just couldn't think of the right words. Thank you. You're welcome. Can't wait 'til next week. Did you hear? THE RAW MAIN EVENT: TRIPLE H in a 30 MAN GAUNTLET MATCH! I wonder who's gonna win? I thought it was a SLOBBERKNOCKER match. Spoiler: Cena wins.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Sept 18, 2007 12:50:10 GMT -5
What's frustrating about this is that only one side is actually right, but they're overreacting so the other side just does their standard "post-modern smark" eye-roll and says "Whatever, it's fine, it's just because it was Kendrick and London."
Really, objectively, no it isn't okay for Tag Teams to be beaten by one man. This is the problem we've had with Cena, and the horrendous "new DX" wherein tag-teams of FIVE GUYS would lose to one man.
Triple H, after his long, unfunny promo that basically sealed the deal on whether I'll ever get my friend Katie to watch wrestling again, and then beating the tag team champions WITH A THIRD MAN AGAINST HIM AT RINGSIDE, did not need to Pedigree Londrick into oblivion.
It was retarded.
That's the full argument. Because honestly guys, if Londrick hadn't come out, we all know Trips would've just beaten all three of his attackers anyway. And that's a gross, Hogan-esque feeling.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Sept 18, 2007 12:51:21 GMT -5
This can't be said enough.
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