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Post by The Curmudgeon on Oct 23, 2007 18:07:47 GMT -5
Any idea when this came about? I remember seeing it the first time with the Headshrinkers and thought it was the coolest thing possible. One of THE killer moves and it didn't hurt because their "heads were so hard" - and in the same match they then got pinned after a Frankensteiner (Wrestlemania IX - not the worst thing to happen that night, I imagine..)
I know there's been a couple of people to no-sell the DDT that way, but where did it come from? And can anyone name anyone else who pulled it off?
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Post by Tapout on Oct 23, 2007 18:09:10 GMT -5
One of the oldest running gags in pro wrestling is that Samoans have hard heads, so headbutts and other things that attack the skull don't affect them. They were doing this with Haku back in the 80s.
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Post by erik316wttn on Oct 23, 2007 18:14:09 GMT -5
Any idea when this came about? I remember seeing it the first time with the Headshrinkers and thought it was the coolest thing possible. One of THE killer moves and it didn't hurt because their "heads were so hard" - and in the same match they then got pinned after a Frankensteiner (Wrestlemania IX - not the worst thing to happen that night, I imagine..) I know there's been a couple of people to no-sell the DDT that way, but where did it come from? And can anyone name anyone else who pulled it off? Undertaker no-sold 2 Jake Roberts DDT's at one point when they feuded. |
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Post by machinegun on Oct 23, 2007 18:15:01 GMT -5
Any idea when this came about? I remember seeing it the first time with the Headshrinkers and thought it was the coolest thing possible. One of THE killer moves and it didn't hurt because their "heads were so hard" - and in the same match they then got pinned after a Frankensteiner (Wrestlemania IX - not the worst thing to happen that night, I imagine..) I know there's been a couple of people to no-sell the DDT that way, but where did it come from? And can anyone name anyone else who pulled it off? Undertaker no-sold 2 Jake Roberts DDT's at one point when they feuded. That's the undertaker. Dude could no sell a Hogan Leg drop or a pedigree or an FU and it'd make sense |
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Post by erik316wttn on Oct 23, 2007 18:27:18 GMT -5
Undertaker no-sold 2 Jake Roberts DDT's at one point when they feuded. That's the undertaker. Dude could no sell a Hogan Leg drop or a pedigree or an FU and it'd make sense Not to derail, but it just blows my mind that a gimmick in which someone is undead and no-sells just about everything got to be one of the legendary gimmicks of all time. But I still love the "Dastardly heel throws his entire arsenal at The Undertaker, announcers declare the match over, Undertaker sits up, heel shits pants" schtick. Although he couldn't pull that off today as much as he did in his first few years as his character has evolved so much. |
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Post by "St. Louis Viper" Buck Summers on Oct 23, 2007 18:30:48 GMT -5
Taker's no-sell is awesome and when he actually gets beat down, my soul hurts.
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Post by scifi1980 on Oct 23, 2007 20:40:44 GMT -5
One of the oldest running gags in pro wrestling is that Samoans have hard heads, so headbutts and other things that attack the skull don't affect them. They were doing this with Haku back in the 80s. What I found retarded about it was that you would get guys who never ever used a headbutt in their friggin lives would think "hey im wrestling a big tough samoan guy who has a granite hard noggin for a gimmick, I know ill try a headbutt that I never ever used in my career so I might not be able to do it right, but it seems like a good time to try it" 3 seconds later guy is holding his head then eats a crescent kick and a 3 count. |
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Post by Maxnificent on Oct 23, 2007 21:59:29 GMT -5
Road Warrior Hawk no-sold piledrivers.
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Post by Joekishi on Oct 23, 2007 22:03:17 GMT -5
Samoans and Hawk Should never take head moves.
I remember Bret Hart using a headbutt on Rikishi (headshrinker at the time), and getting dazed because of it.
Seriously you piledrive Hawk he pops up, crowd goes wild.
I still don't think Umaga should have sold the Pedigree, he should have got right back up and triple H should have been forced to find other means to beat him.
Like if Orton and Umaga were to fued, I'd base it on Umaga taking the RKO and umaga doing the pop up sell followed immediately by Orton scurrying out of the ring doing his perplexed face.
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Post by kitsunestar on Oct 23, 2007 22:04:20 GMT -5
One of the oldest running gags in pro wrestling is that Samoans have hard heads, so headbutts and other things that attack the skull don't affect them. They were doing this with Haku back in the 80s. Does Joe no-sell head moves? Because if he does, awesome. |
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Post by Joekishi on Oct 23, 2007 22:10:17 GMT -5
The only reason I want a Joe/Umaga match, is for the headbutt-duel, followed by the chopfest, followed by the kick each other in the chest, followed by the dance off, all ending with both guys lariating each other and each flipping all around.
Joe does the Rikishi flip sell awesome.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Oct 23, 2007 22:19:31 GMT -5
They should've had a match between Kidman and Hawk.. where you could only win via a powerbomb or piledriver. That match would still be going on today.
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Post by Count Creepyhead on Oct 23, 2007 22:30:53 GMT -5
Road Warrior Hawk no-sold piledrivers. I think all modern no selling originates from this. |
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 23, 2007 22:35:19 GMT -5
Road Warrior Hawk no-sold piledrivers. I think all modern no selling originates from this. We could make a genealogy tree showing various generations and types of no-selling all springing from the trunk of Road Warrior Hawk. |
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Post by Zane on Oct 23, 2007 23:23:46 GMT -5
Didn't RVD or someone recently oversell a DDT? Someone post a GIF if they have one.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 23, 2007 23:41:38 GMT -5
They should've had a match between Kidman and Hawk.. where you could only win via a powerbomb or piledriver. That match would still be going on today. Good lord, getting Kidman in a piledriver is a fool's errand. I don't think even Vader could've managed it with the slippery bastard. |
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Post by machinegun on Oct 23, 2007 23:43:34 GMT -5
Didn't RVD or someone recently oversell a DDT? Someone post a GIF if they have one. I think you're thinking of the piledriver or RKO |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Oct 23, 2007 23:45:21 GMT -5
Didn't RVD or someone recently oversell a DDT? Someone post a GIF if they have one. I think you're thinking of the piledriver or RKO He's probably ridiculously oversold a DDT as well. My theory is, when he gets hit with one, he pops up, cartwheels, then falls flat on his face. |
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Post by Big L on Oct 23, 2007 23:45:50 GMT -5
Didn't RVD or someone recently oversell a DDT? Someone post a GIF if they have one. I think you're thinking of the piledriver or RKO it was the RKO |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2007 23:46:05 GMT -5
I think you're thinking of the piledriver or RKO He's probably ridiculously oversold a DDT as well. My theory is, when he gets hit with one, he pops up, cartwheels, then falls flat on his face. i think ure thinking of HBK... and thats only against Hogan's AMAZING STRENGTH |
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