Orton's 'career-ender kick'

[mysticalhamster]

Yes, I do like the head kick Orton is using as his ultimate 'Injury time' move. It's being booked even stronger than his RKO, a chair shot, etc.

THIS IS GOOD.

Why? WWE for a long time ( thanks to old ECW ) started to make moves weaker. Much weaker.

It just was not enough anymore to do a power bomb as a finisher, a move so dreaded and feared in the early-mid 90's it was legit 'banned' for a time.

It was just not enough anymore to swing a steel chair sort of slow, flat on someones back. Now it had to be 'stiff' and directly on the head, to show a dent in the chair.

It was just not enough anymore to whip someone into the guard rails, oh no. Now you had to REALLY whip them into the rails, then crotch them on the railing.

You get my drift.

I am very pleased that they are making moves that used to be worthless, really strong now. Like for example, the running power slam of the bulldogs son, he used it to finish, then pin - this past Mon!

I have been waiting for this tone down of moves for awhile. It was getting really absurd, everyone could take huge punishment. If the trend continued, we would be having hell in the cell matches where someone is choke slammed/power bombed not once, but 5 times in order to win.

Steel chairs would now be swung side first, not flat. A match would be a failure if it did not cause the crew to change the mat - after every match.

So in conclusion, does anyone else feel like this, understand me, think I am crazy, etc?

I mark out for the Garvin Stomp..

[TripleMerc]

I agree, but the transition back was so sudden and rough, it was hard to buy.

["St. Louis Viper" Buck Summers]

I get you, and I agree. JBL and MVP campaigning against stuff like this last winter made a lot of sense to me.

[wwerules60]

I think its stupid that he does it and people are out for months, but if it is done by anyone else in a match they are fine in time for the next move.

[H-Fist]

I like the return of this sort of wrestling. See also Punk's and Matt's bulldogs. This makes big finishers all the more impressive. It makes it a bit more realistic, that high impact trauma to the head is a big deal. Of course, this all will come to an end in a week or two when somebody kicks out of a pedigree on a chair.

Overall, I think that Vince is finally reacting to TNA, with its illogical booking and crazy moves and clusterf*** endings and whathaveyou. WWE is doing some stuff that is more old school. Cena's injury could be used the same way: even a hiptoss, bah gawd, can down a man. Certainly helps maintain kayfabe in the don't try this at home dealies.

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drhfist said:

I like the return of this sort of wrestling. See also Punk's and Matt's bulldogs. This makes big finishers all the more impressive. It makes it a bit more realistic, that high impact trauma to the head is a big deal. Of course, this all will come to an end in a week or two when somebody kicks out of a pedigree on a chair.

Overall, I think that Vince is finally reacting to TNA, with its illogical booking and crazy moves and clustersmurf endings and whathaveyou. WWE is doing some stuff that is more old school. Cena's injury could be used the same way: even a hiptoss, bah gawd, can down a man. Certainly helps maintain kayfabe in the don't try this at home dealies.

DDT on a chair, sure. People won't kick out of the pedigree even if it's delivered onto a bag half filled with marshmallows.

["St. Louis Viper" Buck Summers]

bootytime said:

drhfist said:

I like the return of this sort of wrestling. See also Punk's and Matt's bulldogs. This makes big finishers all the more impressive. It makes it a bit more realistic, that high impact trauma to the head is a big deal. Of course, this all will come to an end in a week or two when somebody kicks out of a pedigree on a chair.

Overall, I think that Vince is finally reacting to TNA, with its illogical booking and crazy moves and clustersmurf endings and whathaveyou. WWE is doing some stuff that is more old school. Cena's injury could be used the same way: even a hiptoss, bah gawd, can down a man. Certainly helps maintain kayfabe in the don't try this at home dealies.

DDT on a chair, sure. People won't kick out of the pedigree even if it's delivered onto a bag half filled with marshmallows.

I think that has a bit to due with tasty marshmellows on your face.

[Mozenrath]

I like when Randy stomps on their hand, since it looks pretty painful.

I want Orton to end a match sometime soon with his top rope DDT. It'd be a great way to keep playing up that he's taking it too far.

[angryfan]

buckyayo said:

bootytime said:

DDT on a chair, sure. People won't kick out of the pedigree even if it's delivered onto a bag half filled with marshmallows.

I think that has a bit to due with tasty marshmellows on your face.

Tastey!

I'm seeing this:

Creative member: OK, listen, we want you to take the Pedigree to end the match -

Umaga: Yeah, yeah, I know.

Creative: Wait, let me finish, we need you to really sell the thing, ok?

Umaga: You're saying this like I have some kind of choice in the matter? Do I look retarded?

Creative: Well -

Umaga: (glares) WHat?

Creative: SOrry, sorry, its' the facepaint. Anyway, you'll be taking the bump onto a bag of marshmallows.

Umaga: So, I should get up quickly? I mean, it is just marshmallows.

Creative: Actually, we're gong to need to you to sell like you're dead for about three minutes so Trips can get his pose in before teh cover.

Umaga: THree minutes?

(Bischoff pops out of a box)

Eric: Did someone say three minutes?

(Umaga hits him with a large anvil)

Umaga; Back in the box, damn it! Anyway, why so long? Won't that kill my gimmick?

Creative: Possibly.

Umaga: THen why would I agree to it? What benefit is there?

Creative: Well, while you're done, you get all the marshmallows you can eat.

Umaga: Hells yeah, where do I sign!

[I Graduated Warrior University]

angryfan said:

buckyayo said:

I think that has a bit to due with tasty marshmellows on your face.

Tastey!

I'm seeing this:

Creative member: OK, listen, we want you to take the Pedigree to end the match -

Umaga: Yeah, yeah, I know.

Creative: Wait, let me finish, we need you to really sell the thing, ok?

Umaga: You're saying this like I have some kind of choice in the matter? Do I look retarded?

Creative: Well -

Umaga: (glares) WHat?

Creative: SOrry, sorry, its' the facepaint. Anyway, you'll be taking the bump onto a bag of marshmallows.

Umaga: So, I should get up quickly? I mean, it is just marshmallows.

Creative: Actually, we're gong to need to you to sell like you're dead for about three minutes so Trips can get his pose in before teh cover.

Umaga: THree minutes?

(Bischoff pops out of a box)

Eric: Did someone say three minutes?

(Umaga hits him with a large anvil)

Umaga; Back in the box, damn it! Anyway, why so long? Won't that kill my gimmick?

Creative: Possibly.

Umaga: THen why would I agree to it? What benefit is there?

Creative: Well, while you're done, you get all the marshmallows you can eat.

Umaga: Hells yeah, where do I sign!

Lock this thread, we have a winner!

[Ace Diamond]

Maybe if he didn't make it look like he was tripping over them it might have been a good thing. Maybe if it had been a running knee to the temple instead. Alas, it was him basically trying to concuss people with his ankle and therefore it sucked.

[kitsunestar]

angryfan said:

Umaga: THree minutes?

(Bischoff pops out of a box)

Eric: Did someone say three minutes?

(Umaga hits him with a large anvil)

Umaga; Back in the box, damn it!

Bischoff/3MW references never get old ^.^

[Mozenrath]

aodpilot said:

Maybe if he didn't make it look like he was tripping over them it might have been a good thing. Maybe if it had been a running knee to the temple instead. Alas, it was him basically trying to concuss people with his ankle and therefore it sucked.

Well, lay down, and I'll kick you with my ankle. Let's see if it'll hurt.

I'm betting it probably will.

[Ace Diamond]

kiddobradley said:

aodpilot said:

Maybe if he didn't make it look like he was tripping over them it might have been a good thing. Maybe if it had been a running knee to the temple instead. Alas, it was him basically trying to concuss people with his ankle and therefore it sucked.

Well, lay down, and I'll kick you with my ankle. Let's see if it'll hurt.

I'm betting it probably will.

not the front of your ankle it won't. Side of it maybe, but not front straight-on.

And I will gladly do this. I will take a kick to the head in an attempt to prove I'm right, because that's how committed I am to my beliefs.

[Mozenrath]

aodpilot said:

kiddobradley said:

Well, lay down, and I'll kick you with my ankle. Let's see if it'll hurt.

I'm betting it probably will.

not the front of your ankle it won't. Side of it maybe, but not front straight-on.

And I will gladly do this. I will take a kick to the head in an attempt to prove I'm right, because that's how committed I am to my beliefs.

Eh, I'd have to run to get anything out of it, and I just don't feel like doing it.

[Ace Diamond]

kiddobradley said:

aodpilot said:

not the front of your ankle it won't. Side of it maybe, but not front straight-on.

And I will gladly do this. I will take a kick to the head in an attempt to prove I'm right, because that's how committed I am to my beliefs.

Eh, I'd have to run to get anything out of it, and I just don't feel like doing it.

Didn't think so.

[Mozenrath]

aodpilot said:

kiddobradley said:

Eh, I'd have to run to get anything out of it, and I just don't feel like doing it.

Didn't think so.

Laziness is my achilles heel, I guess.

[ilikeRusso.]

FU from the top rope was almost a firemans carry sofly carerssing bobby lashleys head.

[The F'N Captain]

Wrestlings wierd, Lance Storm could superkick people all day and never get a pin, but HBK hits it and it's a finisher(Storm had a mighty good superkick too). People say in Kayfabe it's because he mastered the move and knows how to hit it perfectly.

Now I demand someone perfect the Indian Sunburn to where thier opponent submits in two seconds.

[azz0r]

Ever since reading about Benoits brain damage I've cringed when the chair has been pulled out, I hope we see more back chair shots and less head shots.