OVW Presents: The Minstrel Show

[Numero Dos]

angryfan said:

Holy damn, that's kinda...wow. For the love of God, please tell me he didn't start scraming "Mammy, don't you love your sonny boy" over and over. I mean, if everyone backstage was cool with it, no harm no foul, but why take that risk in this day and age? What's the payoff, if any? Is it gonna get him more over as a heel since he did it?

As for the Billy Gunn pic, Z, thank you for the mental image. I will now, every time I see Gunn, er Kyp, or whatever on my TV, I will start loudly demanding Cadbury products.

He already advertises for them here in the UK I don't know if they show the same ad in the US.

[Kenny Brockelstein]

chainsawiscaw said:

DX making fun of the Nation.

Just saying, is all.

Precisely. How is that alright yet this isn't?

If an African American guy painted himself white for an impersonation segment, there wouldn't be any controversy about it.

That is all.

[Mitch 4:20]

sinister1 said:

This reminds me of one thing:

When the hell did THAT happen? PPV? I watch all Impacts and I am sure I never seen that!!!

[Mitch 4:20]

therealzman said:

sinister1 said:

This reminds me of one thing:

I dunno... Mr. Ass reminds me of a chocolate easter bunny with the ears bit off in this picture.

Mr Ass? I thought that was Angle!!! lmao, oops!

[Kae]

Given the racial history, the skit was perhaps unfortunate, but I don't think it was meant to be very different to other wrestlers dressing up as and mocking their opponents. For instance, DX as Vince and RatedRKO as DX in the last year.

Also, DX as the Nation for purposes of comparison: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnk4_j_x9I0

I mean, it's not like he was eating watermelon and doing a jig.

[Arturo Classico]

Bad taste obviously, but isn't wrestling mostly bad taste tv anyway? And isn't wrestling flourishing the most when they have disgusting moments on it? For instance the Pillman/Austin gun angle, Goldust, and I mean everyone loved the NOD vs DX feud but alot of that had very bad stereotypes in it such as Mark Henry lusting over Chyna and that of course led to Henry macking it with Sammy. Also currently in TNA I find what they have been doing with extreme violence to woman to be way more offensive, I mean how can faces Jeff Jarrett and Eric Young attack women? (oh wait Russo and Jarrett are writting the show so never mind) oh and other gross out segments as well as Black Reign and The Christian Coalition brutally attacking innocent Samoans? So this type of stuff is not new but go ahead and be shocked by it since next year on TNA I bet i'll see a cannibal or incest angle on tv, or if ECW or WWE RAw goes down any further expect that to happen.

[Hiroshi Hase]

scoopdogg said:

sinister1 said:

This reminds me of one thing:

When the hell did THAT happen? PPV? I watch all Impacts and I am sure I never seen that!!!

That was in the summer of 2006 when Team 3D and VKM were feuding over who was the best tag team of all time.

[Ridley]

angryfan said:

Holy damn, that's kinda...wow. For the love of God, please tell me he didn't start scraming "Mammy, don't you love your sonny boy" over and over. I mean, if everyone backstage was cool with it, no harm no foul, but why take that risk in this day and age? What's the payoff, if any? Is it gonna get him more over as a heel since he did it?

As for the Billy Gunn pic, Z, thank you for the mental image. I will now, every time I see Gunn, er Kyp, or whatever on my TV, I will start loudly demanding Cadbury products.

Options is Cadbury

[plushtar]

I, too, thought of Kip James. Although this man looks like what would happen if D'Von finally ate Buh Buh.

[Avalanche Alvarez]

ynwa25 said:

From PWInsider.com

If you can believe this (and I can't fathom who in the world would book this in 2007), this past weekend's Ohio Valley Wrestling TV featured a segment where Justin LaRouche was in full black face makeup mocking Charles "The Hammer" Evans (who is African American), with his face and arms painted black while wearing an afro. There were a ton of developmental guys shaking their heads at that one and it didn't get any reaction live. I've heard it was an Al Snow idea. Uh, public company folks?



WTF?

Real classy.
If you don't think that's offensive, you're completely entitled to your opinion.
It was just as offensive when DX did it.

It is what the idea of "blackface" represents. Whoever does it, no matter what their intention, it doesn't change what it means.

It IS offensive.
But this is WWE developmental, so hey, I'm not surprised.

[Long A, Short A]

pookey said:

Saying "African American" is just as racist as blackface.

Truth

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cococomets said:

pookey said:

Saying "African American" is just as racist as blackface.

Truth

Indeed!

I remember being in my social studies class in high school and some discussion of ethnicity comes up. Long story short, someone thinks this one girl in the class was an African American.

Since she was from Jamaica, it pretty much pissed her off and she was steamed for the entire class.

The moral? Stereotypical names suck.

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

avalanchealvarez said:

ynwa25 said:

From PWInsider.com

If you can believe this (and I can't fathom who in the world would book this in 2007), this past weekend's Ohio Valley Wrestling TV featured a segment where Justin LaRouche was in full black face makeup mocking Charles "The Hammer" Evans (who is African American), with his face and arms painted black while wearing an afro. There were a ton of developmental guys shaking their heads at that one and it didn't get any reaction live. I've heard it was an Al Snow idea. Uh, public company folks?



WTF?

Real classy.
If you don't think that's offensive, you're completely entitled to your opinion.
It was just as offensive when DX did it.

It is what the idea of "blackface" represents. Whoever does it, no matter what their intention, it doesn't change what it means.

It IS offensive.
But this is WWE developmental, so hey, I'm not surprised.

The only real truth in this whole thread.

[mrwednesdaynight]

Well, if Dog the Bounty Hunter can be canceled for admitting her said the n word, then I think WWE has to be taken off tv for this. even if it was in the developmental territory, that makes it only worse. It means either Vince is ignorant as to what is going on in his own organization or OVW is teaching their wrestlers to be racist. Development being a code word for Klan training program. Fire Stephanie, fire Triple H, cancel Raw and Smackdown. It's the racial sensitive thing to do. And if you don't agree with me, then YOU'RE racist. And you dont want to be a racist, do you?

[Long A, Short A]

mightykretzler said:

cococomets said:

Truth

Indeed!

I remember being in my social studies class in high school and some discussion of ethnicity comes up. Long story short, someone thinks this one girl in the class was an African American.

Since she was from Jamaica, it pretty much pissed her off and she was steamed for the entire class.

The moral? Stereotypical names suck.

To think, I use the term to distance myself from black people I don't like.

I make a habit of ignoring Kip James, so I don't have an opinion on his forays into theatrical make-up. However, I've learned that there is a collation between how a white person is made up and how they act once they leave the make up chair. If you're going to spend time getting a good theatrical job, you're not planning on doing anything stupid. If you roll around in Krylon and call it a day, you'll probably do things that make Soul Man uplifting to black people.

My main issue is that Al Snow thought so little of the people of Kentuckianna that he thought this would get a rise out of the audience. Good or bad.