Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 4, 2007 1:40:17 GMT -5
People keep forgetting that Mike DiBiase is also under developmental.
The DiBiase brothers grew up i'm sure in a great christian environment. their dad's story is one that is really good to me personally.
I really hope these 2nd generation guys don't fall into the same pitfalls that their fathers/mothers had.
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Post by Dynamic Dude Johnny on Nov 4, 2007 3:56:40 GMT -5
If Mike Dibiase is under development as well Ted Jr., considering the Hart foundation 2.0 fell apart(which Ted Jr. was supose to be part of)maybe the WWE will go a another direction with them. Could a tag team of Ted and Mike Dibiase with there friend DH Smith(after he gets off the 30 day suspension) as a trio of young wrestlers with 2nd(smith) and 3rd(the Dibiase,s) generation backgrounds work? It would be a sort of replacement for the Hart foundation 2.0(Teddy Hart, DH Smith and Ted Dibiase Jr.) with Mike in the Teddy Hart position.
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 4, 2007 12:44:12 GMT -5
If Mike Dibiase is under development as well Ted Jr., considering the Hart foundation 2.0 fell apart(which Ted Jr. was supose to be part of)maybe the WWE will go a another direction with them. Could a tag team of Ted and Mike Dibiase with there friend DH Smith(after he gets off the 30 day suspension) as a trio of young wrestlers with 2nd(smith) and 3rd(the Dibiase,s) generation backgrounds work? It would be a sort of replacement for the Hart foundation 2.0(Teddy Hart, DH Smith and Ted Dibiase Jr.) with Mike in the Teddy Hart position. They're all 3rd generation stars.
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Post by rzombie1988 on Nov 4, 2007 20:59:52 GMT -5
Rey Mysterio Sr is Rey Jr's Uncle. He was originally called the Hummingbird, but the story goes that Rey Sr came into the ring after a match and unmasked Rey and named him Rey Mysterio Jr. As being one of the aficionado's of second/third generation wrestlers, he would be considered a 2nd generation wrestler.
There's more 2nd Gener's than listed, and John Cena would be one of them, because his dad manages. Deuce is adopted, and I don't consider him one.
Chavo is a 3rd generation wrestler, because his dad is Chavo Classic, and his grandfather was Gory.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2007 21:33:45 GMT -5
Is Trevor Murdoch related to Dick Murdoch?the resembelence is uncanny yet I've heard no mention of this i dont think so. i think they saw the resemblence and desided to run with it. but dont trust me on that They aren't related; Trevor's last name is, ironically enough, Rhodes, according to the Online World of Wrestling.
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Post by rzombie1988 on Nov 4, 2007 21:37:03 GMT -5
i dont think so. i think they saw the resemblence and desided to run with it. but dont trust me on that They aren't related; Trevor's last name is, ironically enough, Rhodes, according to the Online World of Wrestling. They are definitely not related at all.
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Reverend BTY
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 4, 2007 21:40:55 GMT -5
I would of said that Harry would of won the WWE title within a year, but now hes gonna be pushed back a little Winning the title in a year??? Although not inconceivable, that's a pretty big order to fill. Back on topic, Deuce is doing the best so far. He's a midcard heel that works on most shows. I do see a bright future for DH Smith if he doesn't screw up again.
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Post by Lino on Nov 4, 2007 23:57:41 GMT -5
If Mike Dibiase is under development as well Ted Jr., considering the Hart foundation 2.0 fell apart(which Ted Jr. was supose to be part of)maybe the WWE will go a another direction with them. Could a tag team of Ted and Mike Dibiase with there friend DH Smith(after he gets off the 30 day suspension) as a trio of young wrestlers with 2nd(smith) and 3rd(the Dibiase,s) generation backgrounds work? It would be a sort of replacement for the Hart foundation 2.0(Teddy Hart, DH Smith and Ted Dibiase Jr.) with Mike in the Teddy Hart position. I thought the new new Hart Foundation was Teddy Hart, DH Smith, and Nattie Neidhart?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 5, 2007 0:00:49 GMT -5
If Mike Dibiase is under development as well Ted Jr., considering the Hart foundation 2.0 fell apart(which Ted Jr. was supose to be part of)maybe the WWE will go a another direction with them. Could a tag team of Ted and Mike Dibiase with there friend DH Smith(after he gets off the 30 day suspension) as a trio of young wrestlers with 2nd(smith) and 3rd(the Dibiase,s) generation backgrounds work? It would be a sort of replacement for the Hart foundation 2.0(Teddy Hart, DH Smith and Ted Dibiase Jr.) with Mike in the Teddy Hart position. I thought the new new Hart Foundation was Teddy Hart, DH Smith, and Nattie Neidhart? One of the DiBiases was going to be playing the Brian Pillman role. Either them or T.J. Wilson.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Nov 5, 2007 2:30:35 GMT -5
Dare I say it, but as of a few hours ago, it appears Cody's doing the best of all of them. Can't wait for one or both of the DiBiases to debut though. Deuce is way better then Cody, he has had gold
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Nov 5, 2007 2:33:35 GMT -5
With all these guys, I'd love to see them all split off into teams at Survivor Series against each other.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Nov 5, 2007 3:54:24 GMT -5
Can't forget Nattie Neidhart.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 5, 2007 4:03:56 GMT -5
I believe that of the 2nd/3rd Gen. Stars that I've seen so far Harry Smith and Cody Rhodes will fair the best in the long run. (Assuming Smith learns from this suspension) Deuce is ok, but his gimick is week, and I don't think It'd do well outside the tag ranks. He'd have to have an extened time off TV (6 months- 1 year) to really be able to shed himself of the gimick. And he is 36 years old so I doubt they will ever spend the time to establish him as an uppercard player
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Post by macdaddysquid on Nov 5, 2007 9:31:42 GMT -5
The andrew dice clay gimmick is awesome...Though if the tag team ever breaks up I would love to see Jummy Snuka show up and slap him aorund and set him on a heros path or something
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Post by Jared Has Been Enlightened :) on Nov 5, 2007 9:42:59 GMT -5
Carlito - Undersized, stale, with a poor work ethic. A career midcarder at best.
Deuce - Not shabby. He plays his character very well which is a good sign. It'd be interesting to see him without his 50's greaser gimmick.
Cody Rhodes - Mic skills, charisma, and swagger. He'd be a lock for the future main event scene if he weren't so small. As of now, he's at least an interesting new talent to the midcard.
D.H. Smith - zzZZzzZZzzZZzz...... Boring in every way, shape, and form. If he wasn't Davey Boy's son he'd be selling meat out of the back of a truck right now.
Jesse - Fairly interesting. Pretty good worker and talker, but he's small with a generic look. Never anything close to the main event, but I'd take him over both Carlito and D.H. Smith.
Ted DiBiase Jr. - Never seen him, but if he came in with a spoiled rich kid gimmick as if his father was some sort of millionaire, he'd be interesting for at least a month probably.
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Post by Loki on Nov 5, 2007 10:01:18 GMT -5
Without a real breakthrough storyline and/or gimmick, all these 2nd Generation Superstars fall in the category of "CAWs".
Being pushed as "son/grandson/nephew of a Superstar" isn't gonna bring you places unless you are really something special, or you get a push worth of that name.
In the past, guys like Bret Hart and Curt Hennig got over thanks to their skills; the family ties wee at best a "sidenote" (or a part of an angle). Who knows now who's Rock's father? Did it matter pretty much all the Samoans came from the same family? Dustin Rhodes became somebody as Goldust, and not as Dustin Rhodes...
It took YEARS, a stable with HHH and Flair, a feud with Foley and then with the Undertaker to put Randy Orton on the map. And he's not fully there yet IMO.
So, all these guys are doomed if WWE hope fans will care just because they come from "wrestling sperm" (yuck!)
They are probably decent-to-good, but they need time and airtime to develop and get over.
Otherwise, David Flair and Horace Hogan will have new affiliated to the club...
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Post by Timmy8271 on Nov 5, 2007 15:56:33 GMT -5
Cody has the best future. Especially when they realise the best bet is to turn him heel. Harry Smith might make it but he needs a lot of work personality wise.
If Ted Dibiase Jr. is anything like he was in NOAH, I don't look foward to it. I'm more interested in Curt Henning's kid.
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