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Post by theoriginalredcap on Nov 5, 2007 7:22:58 GMT -5
im actually surprised by the level of maturity in the responses to the question!
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Post by "Handsome" Whitey Fats on Nov 5, 2007 7:38:21 GMT -5
I would give my left nut to have Brock in Botchtista's spot. Would love to have an awesome wrestler instead of Dave's craptactular ass
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 5, 2007 7:45:07 GMT -5
Im not saying I think he made a bad decision, but I think people in the WWE can use that as a reason to why they feel his decision was wrong. Well, that's their opinion. If someone feels they don't want to be in wrestling anymore, why keep them around?
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Post by Verfall on Nov 5, 2007 8:38:48 GMT -5
His one problem will be if he botches his MMA career. Him and the E are not on the best of terms I'd assume, after the mess with the lawsuits. Of course with the state the E is in right now, bringing him back is probably nowhere near out of the question, hell they may be floating him contracts all the time for all we know.
If he managed his money well, than his decision to leave will probably not affect him, but if he pulls an MC Hammer, and the E decides to give him the shaft should any of his other prospects fail to garner him anything, Brock may end up kicking himself in the butt over his leaving.
Of course there is always Japan if he hasn't burnt too many bridges over there.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 5, 2007 8:42:25 GMT -5
I could either get beaten up for real, or get paid millions to get fake beaten up.
And he chose to get beaten up for real?
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 5, 2007 8:42:55 GMT -5
His one problem will be if he botches his MMA career. Him and the E are not on the best of terms I'd assume, after the mess with the lawsuits. Of course with the state the E is in right now, bringing him back is probably nowhere near out of the question, hell they may be floating him contracts all the time for all we know. If he managed his money well, than his decision to leave will probably not affect him, but if he pulls an MC Hammer, and the E decides to give him the shaft should any of his other prospects fail to garner him anything, Brock may end up kicking himself in the butt over his leaving. Of course there is always Japan if he hasn't burnt too many bridges over there. He's already burnt plenty of bridges over there.
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Post by joeman on Nov 5, 2007 10:35:49 GMT -5
Given the ridiculous profits that the WWE makes and their absolute refusal to give their wrestlers the benefit of a union and pay that actually reflects said profits, wrestlers do not owe the WWE crap. no kidding, WWE takes just as much, usaly more as the give to a wrestler. It is like any other job in the world. Blame Capitalism as a whole if you want to bitch about how WWE handles their workers. That said, there is nothing wrong with Brock Lesnar leaving to persue other endeavors. Did he let down the fans? Maybe, but the fans should realize that he is also a human being and that he made a personal decision that fans have to accept. I'm sorry to offend anyone but anyone who thinks Brock should have stayed are selfish. If Brock stayed, he would feel like he was trapped in a prison, and that is the worst feeling anybody can get working in any job.
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Post by wwerules60 on Nov 5, 2007 10:41:07 GMT -5
Im not saying I think he made a bad decision, but I think people in the WWE can use that as a reason to why they feel his decision was wrong. Well, that's their opinion. If someone feels they don't want to be in wrestling anymore, why keep them around? I'm not saying they should, but I can see how they would be pissed after they took a lot of time to make him a star and then he goes and leaves and is using that stardom to get into the UFC.
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Post by Bishblast on Nov 5, 2007 10:45:44 GMT -5
Say what you will, but Lesnar had some great matches, and was pretty decent (getting better, I should say) on the mic by the time he left. Had he stayed, we may not have been subject to the Batista pushes, Orton pushes, etc. Lesnar was guaranteed a high spot, had he stayed, and I believe he would have only gotten better... maybe he'd be in Vader's league by now.
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Post by joeman on Nov 5, 2007 10:48:51 GMT -5
Well, that's their opinion. If someone feels they don't want to be in wrestling anymore, why keep them around? I'm not saying they should, but I can see how they would be pissed after they took a lot of time to make him a star and then he goes and leaves and is using that stardom to get into the UFC. Aside from people recognizing that he was a former WWE champ, I don't think Brock Lesnar is using his past to his advantage. He already put down Pro-Wrestling as fake, MMA is real, promo which implies the exact opposite. I doubt Brock even cares about his accomplishments in the WWE.
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Post by Branimal on Nov 5, 2007 10:59:20 GMT -5
Brock Lesner was a great worker..probably the best I've ever seen of a man his size. Aside from him botching it at WM 19..when I saw him land that Shooting Star Press..my brain exploded. Literally.
I was very sad to see him go. I was becoming a rather large Lesnar mark when he started getting back to his heel roots but developed a cocky streak (making fun of Eddie..dancing with a sombrero..stealing Austin's ATV). His match with Goldberg was horrible and it pissed me off how both of those guys handled it. It could have been so much better. Whatever, I'm not going to get mad at something from around 4 years ago.
Oh well..
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Post by humorousled on Nov 5, 2007 13:33:19 GMT -5
I don't blame Brock for leaving when he did at all. First off, everyone has the right to leave a job if they aren't happy there anymore and persue another career path. Wrestlers aren't any different from the rest of us. Second, he always wanted to play in the NFL and I respect his decision to go persue his dream job. Hey, we all want to go out there and make our dreams come true, don't we? Third, it appeared that Brock was being badly booked when he left the company. The last straw in my mind for Brock was the promo that he cut after he lost the title to Eddie when he was begging Vince to make Goldberg lose to him at WMXX. He came across as a crybaby and and a total (word that comes before cat that begins with p). I mean, come on, for his entire run, Brock came across as a legit badass, face or heel, and him crying like a baby and begging Vince for someone to let him win a match was just stupid and it totally ruined his image. Taking all of those factors into account, I wasn't surprised in the end that he left the WWE, just surprised at the timing of it. I also think that there are some fans out there that think that wrestlers owe us and leaving WWE means that you sold out. He left for a contract that was at least ten times smaller than he got with WWE and it wasn't a sure bet that he would make the team so he took a huge risk by leaving when he did. The idea of fans chanting "you sold out" when wrestlers leave to go somewhere else to make a better living elsewhere other than with the E just makes fans look like we are living in a fantasy world and don't consider the performers to be real people at all. WWE isn't the end all, be all of the universe and wanting to leave the company doesn't make you a bad guy. It isn't like being in WWE makes you their property for life and wanting to leave WWE makes you a bad guy. In the end it was Brock's right to leave when he did and fans who complain about it as if he owes us something are just kidding themselves.
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Post by voiceboxisback on Nov 5, 2007 13:43:18 GMT -5
I could either get beaten up for real, or get paid millions to get fake beaten up. And he chose to get beaten up for real? Someone who wants to compete in a real competition
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Post by joeman on Nov 5, 2007 13:48:26 GMT -5
I could either get beaten up for real, or get paid millions to get fake beaten up. And he chose to get beaten up for real? Someone who wants to compete in a real competition Plus UFC pays a hell a lot more money than WWE does. One match alone can guarantee a million+ dollars.
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Post by Big L on Nov 5, 2007 13:49:33 GMT -5
i guess he made a right decision then, but we could use him in the E right now
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Post by joeman on Nov 5, 2007 13:53:00 GMT -5
I'm surprised there wasn't a smart ass comment in the lines of "Brock Lesnar is too good for the WWE."
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Nov 5, 2007 15:20:32 GMT -5
he made the right descision from my view, because i'm just glad he's gone. i never could stand the guy. i would nominate him for the worlds least deserving and least exciting world champion. Yes on the first, no on the second.
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Post by seano on Nov 5, 2007 15:30:47 GMT -5
I never really understood the hate the guy gets for leaving. People in the regular job market do it ever day. Don't see why this is so different. Because he chose to make WM20 at MSG his last match, and thus the fans made his last match incredibly awesome and him so easy to hate for abandoning the company to the rest of us as a result.
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Post by Freakzilla on Nov 5, 2007 15:32:50 GMT -5
I don't blame Brock for leaving when he did at all. First off, everyone has the right to leave a job if they aren't happy there anymore and persue another career path. Wrestlers aren't any different from the rest of us. Second, he always wanted to play in the NFL and I respect his decision to go persue his dream job. Hey, we all want to go out there and make our dreams come true, don't we? Third, it appeared that Brock was being badly booked when he left the company. The last straw in my mind for Brock was the promo that he cut after he lost the title to Eddie when he was begging Vince to make Goldberg lose to him at WMXX. He came across as a crybaby and and a total (word that comes before cat that begins with p). I mean, come on, for his entire run, Brock came across as a legit badass, face or heel, and him crying like a baby and begging Vince for someone to let him win a match was just stupid and it totally ruined his image. Taking all of those factors into account, I wasn't surprised in the end that he left the WWE, just surprised at the timing of it. I also think that there are some fans out there that think that wrestlers owe us and leaving WWE means that you sold out. He left for a contract that was at least ten times smaller than he got with WWE and it wasn't a sure bet that he would make the team so he took a huge risk by leaving when he did. The idea of fans chanting "you sold out" when wrestlers leave to go somewhere else to make a better living elsewhere other than with the E just makes fans look like we are living in a fantasy world and don't consider the performers to be real people at all. WWE isn't the end all, be all of the universe and wanting to leave the company doesn't make you a bad guy. It isn't like being in WWE makes you their property for life and wanting to leave WWE makes you a bad guy. In the end it was Brock's right to leave when he did and fans who complain about it as if he owes us something are just kidding themselves. Could'nt agree more. I've always thought that the "you sold out" stuff was totally overblown and the fact he was made out to be a pr*ck just because he decided to leave wrestling for another career was most likely sourgrapes from people who did'nt like him anyway. People are allowed to change jobs/careers if they are unhappy. Just because you are famous or in the public eye does'nt change this. Brock is a human being too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2007 15:38:31 GMT -5
I remember reading a comment Big Show made about not liking Lesnar that much because Show had to work hurt to make up with Lesnar leaving unexpectedly. To me, that was exceedingly flawed logic: don't blame the guy who left, blame the guy who needs you to fill in. If you're hurt, you're hurt, you shouldn't be working. I hope that's not the mentality in WWE: "I know you're hurt, but we really need you to step up since such and such is gone..."
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