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Post by CrazySting on Nov 6, 2007 14:48:44 GMT -5
What with Kristal Marshall's release from WWE a few weeks ago, it looks like the planned Vickie Guerrero storyline has been dropped. Original plans for the storyline called for Vickie & Kristal to find out that Theodore Long had a heart condition and to conspire to work together to get him to take Viagra to trigger a heart attack so that Vickie could be the lone General Manager on SmackDown. Instead, Vickie will simply be a babyface General Manager that stands up to men. Also, there's no word yet on what they're going to do with Theodore Long. They were giving health updates on Long, but they stopped doing that after a week or two. Long was assured that he wasn't going to be dropped as a television character.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 6, 2007 14:51:07 GMT -5
It's a duller story, but a less cheeseball story. Hnn.
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Post by TRMcGillicutty on Nov 6, 2007 14:51:53 GMT -5
Vickie isn't exactly a charisma machine. They need Teddy back, and stat.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Nov 6, 2007 14:52:47 GMT -5
I wish they kept them together as dual-GMs.
Vickie: How dare you try to hit on me! Just for that you have to take on-- Teddy: THA UNDATAKA!!!! Vickie: Shut up!
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Post by bindergang on Nov 6, 2007 14:52:55 GMT -5
I'm really not minding Vickie. She's not great, but she's really much better than I thought she would be.
She's something different, as Teddy Long's been getting stale for sometime now.
WWE could do better than Vickie or Teddy in that role, but it is what it is.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Nov 6, 2007 14:54:42 GMT -5
Honestly, they should just have Vickie stay the manager for a couple more weeks to give Teddy time to "heal", and then have Teddy return and say "Thanks for filling in Vickie, I can take it from here."
And from there, we won't see Vickie again until the next Extreme Strip Poker game.
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Post by Stu on Nov 6, 2007 14:54:57 GMT -5
It would be a no-win situation for WWE. If they were to turn her heel and have her do all kinds of evil things, there'd be someone complaining one way or the other how it's disrespectful to Eddie.
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Post by Tapout on Nov 6, 2007 14:55:17 GMT -5
It's a duller story, but a less cheeseball story. Hnn. Duder, Vickie Guererro's deceased husband, the late great Eddy Guerrero, died due to heart failure. Having her turn heel with a kayfabe intent to cause coronary problems on another human being is one of the worst ideas to come out of that writing room yet...if the reports about Hayes pushing that story are true. I'll be the first to admit that Vickie is nothing special on camera (she's clearly still very nervous and not great at delivering her lines), but this is a lot better than going down that road. Also, her being a babyface helps maintain Noble's comedy heel character, which some people seem to like.
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Post by Tapout on Nov 6, 2007 14:56:37 GMT -5
It would be a no-win situation for WWE. If they were to turn her heel and have her do all kinds of evil things, there'd be someone complaining one way or the other how it's disrespectful to Eddie. It is disrespectful, broseph. Vickie was his wife.
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Post by Legion on Nov 6, 2007 15:00:15 GMT -5
I thought i was going to really dislike Vickie as GM, but she has been fine in the role. Her interactions with Noble have been great and at least she isnt talking like a two bit 80's hustler all the time.
I didnt mind Teddy, but he was stale as could be. I say make him a manager, maybe on Raw with Shelton and Haas
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 6, 2007 15:10:26 GMT -5
It's a duller story, but a less cheeseball story. Hnn. Duder, Vickie Guererro's deceased husband, the late great Eddy Guerrero, died due to heart failure. Having her turn heel with a kayfabe intent to cause coronary problems on another human being is one of the worst ideas to come out of that writing room yet...if the reports about Hayes pushing that story are true. I'll be the first to admit that Vickie is nothing special on camera (she's clearly still very nervous and not great at delivering her lines), but this is a lot better than going down that road. Also, her being a babyface helps maintain Noble's comedy heel character, which some people seem to like. I never meant to imply that I liked the scrapped story, because I don't. It would have been "less dull" for all the wrong reasons.
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Post by Legion on Nov 7, 2007 13:50:41 GMT -5
It would be a no-win situation for WWE. If they were to turn her heel and have her do all kinds of evil things, there'd be someone complaining one way or the other how it's disrespectful to Eddie. It is disrespectful, broseph. Vickie was his wife.Do i assume that you are being sarcastic? cos it isnt remotely disrespectful otherwise, unless she got cheap heat by saying bad things about Eddie
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2007 13:57:40 GMT -5
It is disrespectful, broseph. Vickie was his wife.Do i assume that you are being sarcastic? cos it isnt remotely disrespectful People will think some things are disrespectful that others wouldn't. With the hundreds, if not thousands, of other things that they could do, why have Vickie be part of a heart attack angle? The angle's going to piss off a good amount of people. What I don't get is, why do the damn thing in the first place? Why not have Teddy sent to jail or fired? Why not have Vickie be the face who wants to prevent bad stuff from happening? Even as a heel, isn't there a classier way to do this? Ultimately, if she's fine with it, then we shouldn't complain but, given the circumstances, couldn't every one involved do something else?
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 7, 2007 14:04:45 GMT -5
Just get rid of the GM thing. We all know managment decides what matches go on. Give HHH enough time and he'll document it for the home audience. It's an unneccessary position and she's really quite uninspired at it. That being said, RAW went for how many months without one? Then they toss it to Regal...who watches as others make matches around him?
I get the kayfabe, but I don't think "no GM's" would damage the fabric of the WWE continuity.
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Post by tna on Nov 7, 2007 14:08:45 GMT -5
send Long to ECW.
He could manage, um, ugh...
send Long to RAW to manage Bobby Rashwee.
God knows he needs a mouthpiece.
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Post by Tapout on Nov 7, 2007 14:11:48 GMT -5
It is disrespectful, broseph. Vickie was his wife.Do i assume that you are being sarcastic? cos it isnt remotely disrespectful otherwise, unless she got cheap heat by saying bad things about Eddie Broham, let's do a pretend exercise. Let's pretend you're working in the entertainment industry. Let's pretend that someone very near and dear to you (God forbid) dies as the result of a horrible plane crash, and this someone was an onscreen performer, so the death is a matter of public record. It's a great tragedy that presumably affects you personally, and very deeply. Then, a few years later, let's pretend one of your writers, a coworker on your entertainment show, gets really excited about writing in an on-screen, fictional story. In the story, you suddenly turn into a villain who secretly plots get advance your on-screen character's career by arranging a potentially horrible plane crash for the goody-goody heroes. You are the one who is rubbing your hands evilly and wishing misfortune on other people via the exact same way your friend/loved one tragically died in real life. That's the story you're being pitched. Go into it totally unaffected and not offended in the least. Still not disrespectful in any way?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2007 14:21:35 GMT -5
Do i assume that you are being sarcastic? cos it isnt remotely disrespectful People will think some things are disrespectful that others wouldn't. With the hundreds, if not thousands, of other things that they could do, why have Vickie be part of a heart attack angle? The angle's going to piss off a good amount of people. What I don't get is, why do the damn thing in the first place? Why not have Teddy sent to jail or fired? Why not have Vickie be the face who wants to prevent bad stuff from happening? Even as a heel, isn't there a classier way to do this? Ultimately, if she's fine with it, then we shouldn't complain but, given the circumstances, couldn't every one involved do something else? I think this kind of thing pretty often. I'll be watching something WWE is doing and think "You know what would be better? NOT doing this." They keep doing it though. =P
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Post by Legion on Nov 7, 2007 16:14:13 GMT -5
Do i assume that you are being sarcastic? cos it isnt remotely disrespectful otherwise, unless she got cheap heat by saying bad things about Eddie Broham, let's do a pretend exercise. Let's pretend you're working in the entertainment industry. Let's pretend that someone very near and dear to you (God forbid) dies as the result of a horrible plane crash, and this someone was an onscreen performer, so the death is a matter of public record. It's a great tragedy that presumably affects you personally, and very deeply. Then, a few years later, let's pretend one of your writers, a coworker on your entertainment show, gets really excited about writing in an on-screen, fictional story. In the story, you suddenly turn into a villain who secretly plots get advance your on-screen character's career by arranging a potentially horrible plane crash for the goody-goody heroes. You are the one who is rubbing your hands evilly and wishing misfortune on other people via the exact same way your friend/loved one tragically died in real life. That's the story you're being pitched. Go into it totally unaffected and not offended in the least. Still not disrespectful in any way? You may consider it disrespectful but if she doesn't you dont get the right to criticise. If she was unhappy doing it and they forced her, sure. If her family was unhappy and they asked it not go ahead, sure. But if she isn't bothered and is happy to just get on with it then i see no problem at all. There's never forgetting and then there's not moving on. Huge difference between the two.
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Post by JMA on Nov 7, 2007 17:35:08 GMT -5
No more GMs please.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 7, 2007 17:47:47 GMT -5
It is true GM's haven't done anything of note for a while now. Armando shows up every so often on ECW to be evil, then disappears, Vickie has a funny interaction with Noble and disappears, and Regal is told he has to make a match and make a snarky British comment.
They really don't do anything worth merit (and I even like Regal).
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