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Post by Tapout on Nov 7, 2007 21:24:42 GMT -5
Yes, it was Anonymous Brooke that was the key to all the ratings.
If she had stayed with the show, eventually Wyld Stallyns would have brought about world peace.
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Post by primetime110 on Nov 8, 2007 2:28:19 GMT -5
I don't think that everyone wants to see the clash of the jobbers. Noble and Nunzio are great. I'd rather see them wrestle 100 times than see Mark Henry vs Kane 1 time. Seriously, Henry has been wrestling 10 years and he still can't put together a watchable match. Maybe that's why ECW's ratings dropped, fans tuned in and saw Henry vs Kane and said "this sucks, screw this" and turned it off. I don't think Kane-Henrey had anything to do with the low rating. This is the rating they always get now. Seems many people turned off ECW and said screw this for the last month or so.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 8, 2007 3:55:26 GMT -5
WWE needs to start treating ECW as important. Right now they're treating it as the C brand, and so fans are viewing it that way. It's not that hard to understand. And the roster is another big factor as well. Stacking it with hosses and WWE lifers isn't going to change that. They need A list stars on the show. Of course, that's easier said than done. As we've seen, something bad ALWAYS happens when a big name is moved to ECW. Not true. Big Show was ALREADy having health issues and wanted one good last run. He did a damn fine job as well. Lashley, whatever you think of him, had an injury and even "OMG NEWKLEER HEATZORS!" free run in ECW, and was even bumped up to RAW, apparently impressing SOMEONE. Benoit was the only big WWE star to have things take a turn not just for the worse, but truly tragic. I agree with the earlier sentiment. ECW *IS* seen as the "red headed stepchild". Either a true A-lister or, hey howabout more than five minutes for ECW matches at PPV's? That'd help immensely.
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Post by kittylimits on Nov 8, 2007 11:56:35 GMT -5
People didn't turn into this show and dislike it to have the ratings drop. They just didn't watch it.
If you look at ratings for OTHER shows, non wrestling, you'll see that most shows fluctuate 0.5, 0.6, whatever, every week.
Wrestling is slightly different, because they have a "set" loyal fan base. You'll get the REALLY loyal fans that tune in every week. Raw will never get lower than a certain number, Smackdown will never, and ECW will never.
But, you'll see every rating kind of jump around a lot. I think Smackdown is the most consistent, but that might have to do with the fact that it's on on Friday nights...
I don't think ECW's rating will slowly drop away...it's not as if there aren't enough loyal WWE fans around to keep it above a 1.0. Which is a GOOD rating, just because it doesn't compare to Raw's doesn't mean it sucks. It's not like Sci-Fi can get much more outta Pain Killer Jane or whatever.
There's a reason for why Spike TV is keeping TNA and Sci-Fi is keeping ECW. They both do deliver good ratings for cable.
WWE is making a ton of money off of their 1 hour, 1.2 rating "C Brand" show. It's a hell of a lot more than they were making with the 2 shows. There's a reason for why it's still around.
Besides, if fans DID tune in to Kelly and Layla, they would NOT have changed it.... Layla just looked amazing. Hellcat, indeed.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 8, 2007 11:58:28 GMT -5
People didn't turn into this show and dislike it to have the ratings drop. They just didn't like it. If you look at ratings for OTHER shows, non wrestling, you'll see that most shows fluctuate 0.5, 0.6, whatever, every week. Wrestling is slightly different, because they have a "set" loyal fan base. You'll get the REALLY loyal fans that tune in every week. Raw will never get lower than a certain number, Smackdown will never, and ECW will never. But, you'll see every rating kind of jump around a lot. I think Smackdown is the most consistent, but that might have to do with the fact that it's on on Friday nights... I don't think ECW's rating will slowly drop away...it's not as if there aren't enough loyal WWE fans around to keep it above a 1.0. Which is a GOOD rating, just because it doesn't compare to Raw's doesn't mean it sucks. It's not like Sci-Fi can get much more outta Pain Killer Jane or whatever. There's a reason for why Spike TV is keeping TNA and Sci-Fi is keeping ECW. They both do delivery good ratings for cable. WWE is making a ton of money off of their 1 hour, 1.2 rating "C Brand" show. It's a hell of a lot more than they were making with the 2 shows. There's a reason for why it's still around. Besides, if fans DID tune in to Kelly and Layla, they would NOT have changed it.... Layla just looked amazing. Hellcat, indeed. I agree with pretty much all of that.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 8, 2007 13:08:47 GMT -5
it is like the wwe is trying to fix ecw by having these hosses from smackdown come over, and having divawrestling, but in doing so they are abandoning what was good about ecw. the reason i liked it was because it was different.
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Post by JMA on Nov 8, 2007 13:38:52 GMT -5
Not true. Big Show was ALREADy having health issues and wanted one good last run. He did a damn fine job as well. Lashley, whatever you think of him, had an injury and even "OMG NEWKLEER HEATZORS!" free run in ECW, and was even bumped up to RAW, apparently impressing SOMEONE. Benoit was the only big WWE star to have things take a turn not just for the worse, but truly tragic. Big Show himself has said that the hardcore matches took a toll on his health. He definitely counts. As do RVD, Angle, and Benoit. Lashley, on the other hand, doesn't count. He wasn't an A-list star (and still isn't, actually) when he came to ECW. That's what made his title win all the more wrong. Basically, it comes down to A-list stars seeing the move to ECW as a de-push. If WWE treated the brand as more important, they might not see it this way. But looking at it from their point-of-view, they're being moved to a one hour show with only one title and a very small roster (many of whom are unknowns).
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Post by JMA on Nov 8, 2007 13:42:06 GMT -5
it is like the wwe is trying to fix ecw by having these hosses from smackdown come over, and having divawrestling, but in doing so they are abandoning what was good about ecw. the reason i liked it was because it was different. Vince always goes back to the big guys when something goes wrong. Remember when Khali came over to Raw after Hunter was injured?
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