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Post by normcoleman on Nov 15, 2007 17:19:19 GMT -5
I'd also add Regal, healthy Cena and Lashley, and MVP. I would like to see a new brawl for all, just for the entertainment factor. i'd like to see BDV, in it, just for the hell of it get Big Show out of retirement...He'd mow down the competition
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Post by HRH The KING on Nov 15, 2007 18:58:28 GMT -5
Bradshaw should stick to being the tough guy in his own element.
Namely, bullying smaller wrestlers with Undertaker and Softcore Holly backing him up and hitting fat blue-haired guys from behind.
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Post by normcoleman on Nov 16, 2007 3:29:15 GMT -5
Bradshaw should stick to being the tough guy in his own element. Namely, bullying smaller wrestlers with Undertaker and Softcore Holly backing him up and hitting fat blue-haired guys from behind. If JBL truly who he says he is....why does he do this stuff?
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2007 4:15:45 GMT -5
I can't be the only one who actually liked the Brawl For All, can I? No, and I would actually love to see another Brawl for All with todays stars, such as Elijah Burke, CM Punk, Shelton Benjamin, Cody Rhodes, DH Smith, Deuce, Domino, and Lance Cade. Burke would probably win, but everyone would leave injured, making WWE look like idiots.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2007 4:17:19 GMT -5
I don't know why everyone keeps insisting Regal has these great shooting skills. Yeah, he can take cheap shots at untrained rookies ( I remember him beating the crap out of test when he accidently got cut open) but has he ever fought at a competative level? Taking liberties with an opponent does not make you a tough guy. Just a coward. To be fair, any time he's been known to take shots at someone, it's because they did not show proper respect to him. If you don't show your opponent respect, expect them to be pissed off at you.
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Post by SNITSKY on Nov 16, 2007 4:42:55 GMT -5
Where is Bart Gunn these days? Indy or just retired from wrestling?
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 16, 2007 8:25:28 GMT -5
I don't know why everyone keeps insisting Regal has these great shooting skills. Yeah, he can take cheap shots at untrained rookies ( I remember him beating the crap out of test when he accidently got cut open) but has he ever fought at a competative level? Taking liberties with an opponent does not make you a tough guy. Just a coward. To be fair, any time he's been known to take shots at someone, it's because they did not show proper respect to him. If you don't show your opponent respect, expect them to be pissed off at you. It's old school mentality. These guys "grew up" wrestling where if you screwed up something you should know, you got stiffed. No questions asked. I'm actually a big believer in getting a stiff shot or two if you mess up in the WWE on something you have control over. You're supposed to be the top of the line, and if you falter because you aren't showing your opponent respect, you deserve a nice stiff pop or good stretch.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 16, 2007 8:26:25 GMT -5
Where is Bart Gunn these days? Indy or just retired from wrestling? He was actually huge in Japan after his WWF stint, however I don't know if he's still getting over. I imagine so, he does have that "American Hoss" look the Japanese seem to eat up.
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Post by SNITSKY on Nov 16, 2007 9:38:35 GMT -5
I actually think that Bart deserved the push that Billy got ... not the gay gimmick though!
And as for wrestlers deserving to get beaten up if they screw up? I don't personally believe in it. I'm not a wrestler, so I can only give my opinion. But I still don't agree with the oldschool ethics, and have little or no respect for Hardcore Holly.
Christ, I only have respect for Bradshaw because of the great work he does commentating.
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Post by krill on Nov 16, 2007 10:01:08 GMT -5
seems pro wrestling is full of "tough guys" who are so tough they like to try and hurt you when you cant retaliate. Mr Holly, I am looking at you. If they are so tough, why dont they goto MMA like Brock Lesnar ( a legit tough guy, not some dumb hick failed Nascar driver with an Eminem fetish) and breeeeeeaaatthhhh......... Much better now
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Post by Slammywinner on Nov 16, 2007 16:00:51 GMT -5
Some old school guys would break a rookie leg or rip off an ear or rip out an eye to prove wrestling was real. Hulk Hogan had his leg broken legit like that in westling school as an example to the other students that wrestling is legit....
...so everything old school is not worth keeping around...
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 16, 2007 16:21:52 GMT -5
seems pro wrestling is full of "tough guys" who are so tough they like to try and hurt you when you cant retaliate. Mr Holly, I am looking at you. If they are so tough, why dont they goto MMA like Brock Lesnar ( a legit tough guy, not some dumb hick failed Nascar driver with an Eminem fetish) and breeeeeeaaatthhhh......... Much better now Didn't Holly try something with Lesnar and that led to him sustaining a very serious injury?
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Post by SNITSKY on Nov 16, 2007 16:47:13 GMT -5
I hope so. I don't wish injury on Holly or anything, but it would be nice to hear more stories about him being taken down a few pegs.
If someone like Maven had punked him out, I think I'd still be clapping.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 16, 2007 16:59:13 GMT -5
Well you guys have to understand, there's a difference from stiffing a guy for no reason because you don't like him or your a bully, as opposed to giving someone a rather concrete reminder to watch themselves. Not only that but some guys were TRAINED to work stiff. It's not a good thing, but it's getting phased out I'm sure with the new blood comming in so strongly.
If I remember right Regal stiffed Test because he botched a move that could have REALLY hurt Regal. I rather them throw a stiff shot to a guy in the ring to teach respect than take it to the lockerroom for a brawl.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2007 17:11:24 GMT -5
seems pro wrestling is full of "tough guys" who are so tough they like to try and hurt you when you cant retaliate. Mr Holly, I am looking at you. If they are so tough, why dont they goto MMA like Brock Lesnar ( a legit tough guy, not some dumb hick failed Nascar driver with an Eminem fetish) and breeeeeeaaatthhhh......... Much better now Didn't Holly try something with Lesnar and that led to him sustaining a very serious injury? Yep. He failed to show Brock respect, and attempted to make him look bad, so Brock deliberately dropped Holly right on his head. He was seen as justified in doing so, since Holly was in no position to try to make the top guy look like crap, so no action was taken.
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Post by DrewVonAwesome on Nov 16, 2007 17:22:49 GMT -5
i'd like to see BDV, in it, just for the hell of it It'd be like punching jello... jiggle jiggle jiggle...
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Post by ChibiDiablo on Nov 16, 2007 17:34:09 GMT -5
In the recommended videos it has JBL debuting against Hardcore Holly. That must be where Bradshaw learned his hazing ways
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 16, 2007 17:52:31 GMT -5
Didn't Holly try something with Lesnar and that led to him sustaining a very serious injury? Yep. He failed to show Brock respect, and attempted to make him look bad, so Brock deliberately dropped Holly right on his head. He was seen as justified in doing so, since Holly was in no position to try to make the top guy look like crap, so no action was taken. Dropping him on his head seems a bit much. That's really, really dangerous. Maybe a few stiff shots or something, but dropping him on his head...he could have died. I doubt Vince is going to be okay with something like that happening. Did Brock admit he did it on purpose? Or is this just assumed?
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Post by krill on Nov 16, 2007 19:56:43 GMT -5
I also heard Brock kicked Kurt Hennigs ass on a plane too. Serves him right for screwing with THE MOUNTIEEEEEE .... HE ALWAYS GETS HIS MANNNNNNNN
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Post by capnsteve on Nov 17, 2007 3:45:42 GMT -5
Yep. He failed to show Brock respect, and attempted to make him look bad, so Brock deliberately dropped Holly right on his head. He was seen as justified in doing so, since Holly was in no position to try to make the top guy look like crap, so no action was taken. Where did you hear that? As good as Brock was, he definitely had a sloppy side. What did Albert do to deserve getting F5ed onto his head?
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