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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 17, 2007 12:42:44 GMT -5
In WWE- Current I often come across the sentiment that not everyone should main event, and lately I've been agreeing with that. Of course, no one seems to agree on who has what it takes to draw with a major title.
Thank God.
Because I wanted to get your take on what wrestlers employed with WWE- that haven't held Raw or Smackdown's world titles- could believably do a good job carrying either one of those balls.
Mine: Mr. Kennedy- If he can manage to keep his nose clean and stay out of trouble for a certain length of time, I'll say yes. He can wrestle damn well (notice the little touches he adds like still struggling when he's about to be hit with a power move) and we all know about his ability to irritate.
Jeff Hardy- Ehh...no. Not on Raw or Smackdown. I think he's a lock for WWE's Hall Of Fame someday, but the only major title I can see him holding is ECW's.
Carlito- No. Never did. And before you ask, it had nothing to do with his physique.
Matt Hardy- Great storyteller, and he's not the horrid talker that some think he is. But no. I think he's this era's Tito Santana.
Chavo Guerrero- Guess what? I'll say yes. The WWE's decision to put the WHC on Freakin' Rey Mysterio killed the size illusion for me personally, and I think he has the goods. Not as a face champ, though.
CM Punk- Sure, I can see it. But they should wait to turn him heel for a while.
Shelton Benjamin- Not really. When he beat HHH a few years ago I just thought that was to give him a threatening aura.
MVP- As of now, yes.
Santino Marella- Nope.
Finlay- No. A great US/IC champ, though, and maybe a future HOFer.
William Regal- Uh-uh. He would have made a great world champion in the 70s/early 80s, but not today in the bang-bang-bang era of wrestling.
The Miz- No.
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Post by krill on Nov 17, 2007 13:05:06 GMT -5
well its so hard to tell in such cases, like before the attitude era who would have thought rocky miavia and stunning steve austin (neither of which were really over at the time) would become 2 of the biggest icons in pro wrestling?
I think whoever leads the way in the next uprising of pro wrestling may be the person we least expect. So I cannot even make a prediction and I dont think anyone can. There are so many factors that contribute to the making of a superstar.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Nov 17, 2007 15:06:28 GMT -5
Mr. Kennedy- At this rate, no. He's a decent mid card heel, but he's overrated IMO. He's for the most part just a catchphrase, and not a very clever one. Maybe he could feud over the title, but not hold it.
Jeff Hardy- Possibly. He's charismatic and entertaining. I don't know about long term, but a brief storyline where he's champ is a maybe.
Carlito- Back in 2005, maybe. But at the moment, no way.
Matt Hardy- Like Kennedy, I can see him in a title match, but not winning the title
Chavo Guerrero- I like the guy, but I don't see it.
CM Punk- Umm..maybe. IMO he's a bit overrated, and not too interesting as a face. I want to see him as a cocky heel and then maybe.
Shelton Benjamin- Talented midcard wrestler, not enough charisma to win the big one.
MVP- HELL YEAH
Santino Marella- Nah.
Finlay- Maybe, or at least another US/IC title reign would suffice.
William Regal- No. I don't see him getting a huge push at this stage.
The Miz- Maybe, but it would be a long ways off.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 17, 2007 15:18:37 GMT -5
Mr. Kennedy- If he stays out of trouble and doesn't get injured loads
Jeff Hardy- Maybe a little reign.
Carlito- No. He's lazy and bland.
Matt Hardy- I'd buy a couple of Foley-like reigns from Matt.
Chavo Guerrero- Don't think so.
CM Punk- Yes, hope he wins the belt someday.
Shelton Benjamin- Nah but he should be utilized a bit better than he is.
MVP- Yeah, he seems like a future champ to me.
Santino Marella- No but he's better as an annoying midcard heel than he would be as world champ, I do like him.
Finlay- Don't see him getting that kind of a push
William Regal- Same as Finlay, both are some of my favourites though
The Miz- No.
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Post by ilggant on Nov 17, 2007 15:30:17 GMT -5
Mr. Kennedy- Yep, he could make it if he plays his cards right and works hard for it
Jeff Hardy- Nope. His last name will forever keep him with the tag of "tag team wrestler" in my opinion. Plus, not enough charisma.
Carlito- Would have said yes a year ago. Now, apparently not.
Matt Hardy- See Jeff
Chavo Guerrero- Could have after he put Rey out of action, but now too late.
CM Punk- Yep, definitely.
Shelton Benjamin- Nope, but good upper midcarder.
MVP- Yep, already could have it in my op.
Santino Marella- Nope
Finlay- Nah doesn't need it
William Regal- Wish he would, but not happening
The Miz- No.
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Post by thegame415 on Nov 17, 2007 15:37:33 GMT -5
The way i see it....never say never on ANY superstar.....when the rock, triple h, and austin all debuted, they certainly didn't look like world champion material....now, they are three of the biggest names in wrestling history.
So, next time you see Miz roll down to the ring...you never know
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Post by ilggant on Nov 17, 2007 16:30:17 GMT -5
The way i see it....never say never on ANY superstar.....when the rock, triple h, and austin all debuted, they certainly didn't look like world champion material....now, they are three of the biggest names in wrestling history. So, next time you see Miz roll down to the ring...you never know believe me if you want to, but I saw huge potential in all three
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Post by Legion on Nov 17, 2007 16:47:04 GMT -5
This list needs more John Morrison and a lot less Mr Kennedy
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Post by 4TheGlory on Nov 17, 2007 18:19:29 GMT -5
Why is everyone listing CM Punk as future world champ, hes currently the ECW world champion and in kayfabe at least, its credible as a World Title Belt
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Post by The OP on Nov 17, 2007 18:31:25 GMT -5
I think eventually any of the following guys could hold a title with proper booking:
Mr. Kennedy - The guy is over. He's not "just a catchphrase" he's a great heel wrestler. People complain that he doesn't do a lot of moves, but he's not supposed to. His job in the ring is to make face wrestlers look good, and he does a great job of it.
MVP - This guy is the complete package. He would work as a face or a heel champ without having to change his style much.
William Regal - A lot of people say no, but I think he would be an effective heel champ. Nobody thought JBL could do it and I think he did the heel champion bit nicely. Regal has proven himself a lot more than Bradshaw had, so I don't see any reason why not.
John Morrison - He's got the flashy moves and the catchphrases of a babyface, so I think he might have to turn eventually. Only trouble is, he's obnoxious enough to be a heel so I'm not really sure what they should do with him. However, once he's fully found his niche one way or the other he's definitely talented enough.
Santino Marella - The guy's a great heel and could probably work with just about any face wrestler. I don't see him being champ on RAW, but I think he could be a great heel champ for Smackdown or ECW.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Nov 18, 2007 10:35:59 GMT -5
I've seen a few "not enough charisma, no charisma" on these lists, so.... let's remember.... Hardcore Holly had ZERO charisma and it took him 20 years to win his first and only World Title.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Nov 18, 2007 12:22:04 GMT -5
Based on the feud with MVP, I support the idea of Matt Hardy getting a world title run
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 18, 2007 13:54:17 GMT -5
Based on the feud with MVP, I support the idea of Matt Hardy getting a world title run Me too. He's being booked strongly in this one. I think the crowd would love it as well. Then again, every time that it appears that Matt is ready to move up the card, the WWe shoves him back down again. In 2001 he went from dominating both HHH and Austin on television for a few weeks to being scared to have a title match against Austin two months later (which REALLY pissed me off). In 2005 they somehow did not do a damn thing to follow up his feud with Edge. Granted, he wsa undefeated on SD for several months until they punished him for not going along with some extremely stupid booking (seriously, why would he, a face, defend Orton from Taker?)
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 18, 2007 13:55:47 GMT -5
The way i see it....never say never on ANY superstar.....when the rock, triple h, and austin all debuted, they certainly didn't look like world champion material....now, they are three of the biggest names in wrestling history. So, next time you see Miz roll down to the ring...you never know believe me if you want to, but I saw huge potential in all three Remove the Rock from that list and I did too. The Rock was way too green to see promise.
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Post by wwerules60 on Nov 18, 2007 13:56:24 GMT -5
Anyone can be a world champ. It all depends on who they decide to push, that is it. I don't see The Great Kahli as a guy with potential but they gave him the belt.
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Post by The Panda Powered on Nov 18, 2007 14:02:10 GMT -5
Mr. Kennedy: Will headline WrestleMania 26, he's got the potential to get there, no question, just not in the next year or so
Jeff Hardy: Wouldn't work as a champion, he'd be far more effective being in the chasing pack, but never quite winning it
Carlito: Never, at his best is the new Roddy Piper, but at the moment is the new Barry Horowitz
Matt Hardy: Only if it was off Edge, due to their history, however I don't think it would work with anyone else. It should only be a caretaker reign at most
Chavo Guerrero: Not a chance
CM Punk: See Jeff Hardy
Shelton Benjamin: Has the skills, but no presence, mic skills, character... a solid mid-carder at best. Should at least be in the IC title situation
MVP- Has the best shot of anyone on this list, if he continues to improve at the rate he has this year, will win the title this time next year.
Santino Marella- Could be a bizarre mix of Roddy Piper and Honky Tonk Man, if you could imagine it, but not a World Title contender.
Finlay- He's perfect in his role now, but shouldn't win the title
William Regal- See Finlay
The Miz- The joke option, surely?
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Post by acressl on Nov 18, 2007 14:07:17 GMT -5
Anyone can be a world champ. It all depends on who they decide to push, that is it. I don't see The Great Kahli as a guy with potential but they gave him the belt. There's a good point. The thread title is misleading because not every world champion is a world champion caliber wrestler. I think a lot of these guys (your Morrisons, your MVPs) have a lot of talent and are right on the cusp of main eventing. Sadly, there's always going to less deserving people in the mix because of who they know, their physique, their politicing, etc.
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