Can Flair keep up?

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vincerussoisgod said:

As far as speed and such? Absolutely not. Can he still put on an entertaining match? I believe he can. If you set him up with a guy that can really go (Shawn Michaels, HHH, Taker) it will be a hell of a match. Not technically but emotion wise. The people get into Flair the same way they do with other veterans where it's less of a "I'll buy all his shirts" and more of a "I respect him, he's enjoyable to watch". I hope this makes sense to y'all.

dont worry i understand and i agree with ya for the most part

[doinkmark]

People have been debating "Give/Don't Give Flair a last big run" forever. All I know is that eery time I attend a wrestling show here in DC, people WOO whether or not Flair's even scheduled to appear that night. They don't just do it when chops are thrown or figure fours are locked on either. The man remains over and is respected. Long-time fans would likely pay to see his last match in some form. I suppose one could argue that the only way to know wheter or not Flair is truly a draw in '07 is to put him in a main event (in somewhere besides North Carolina), build the show around him, and see what the result is. I say go for it.

[mrwednesdaynight]

doinkmark said:

People have been debating "Give/Don't Give Flair a last big run" forever. All I know is that eery time I attend a wrestling show here in DC, people WOO whether or not Flair's even scheduled to appear that night. They don't just do it when chops are thrown or figure fours are locked on either. The man remains over and is respected. Long-time fans would likely pay to see his last match in some form. I suppose one could argue that the only way to know wheter or not Flair is truly a draw in '07 is to put him in a main event (in somewhere besides North Carolina), build the show around him, and see what the result is. I say go for it.

the problem with that is there never seems to be one last match. im not going to shell out the dollars for his "last match" only to have him come back in three monthes. if you call our hobby wrestling, then he simply can't wrestle anymore. I stated that previously. If we call it sports entertainment, lets break that down. in the world of sports, you may remember or have heard of willie mayes last season, mohamaed ali's last fight, evander holyfield's last five fights, or dan marino's last game. in every case, the athlete look worn out, broken down, and a pathetic shell of their former shelves. on the entertainment side of things, if i dont find something entertaining, then i dont want to see if. movies come out every week and bad tv shows air everyday that i dont want to watch. so if they bring flair back for "one last run" count me out, i wont watch it.

[Reverend BTY]

mrwednesdaynight said:

doinkmark said:

People have been debating "Give/Don't Give Flair a last big run" forever. All I know is that eery time I attend a wrestling show here in DC, people WOO whether or not Flair's even scheduled to appear that night. They don't just do it when chops are thrown or figure fours are locked on either. The man remains over and is respected. Long-time fans would likely pay to see his last match in some form. I suppose one could argue that the only way to know wheter or not Flair is truly a draw in '07 is to put him in a main event (in somewhere besides North Carolina), build the show around him, and see what the result is. I say go for it.

the problem with that is there never seems to be one last match. im not going to shell out the dollars for his "last match" only to have him come back in three monthes. if you call our hobby wrestling, then he simply can't wrestle anymore. I stated that previously. If we call it sports entertainment, lets break that down. in the world of sports, you may remember or have heard of willie mayes last season, mohamaed ali's last fight, evander holyfield's last five fights, or dan marino's last game. in every case, the athlete look worn out, broken down, and a pathetic shell of their former shelves. on the entertainment side of things, if i dont find something entertaining, then i dont want to see if. movies come out every week and bad tv shows air everyday that i dont want to watch. so if they bring flair back for "one last run" count me out, i wont watch it.

Not to harp on you but would you really??? Flair comes out at Survivor Series and begins his retirement tour. Would you really change the channel or do something else during these segments??? I'm just curious because I feel like I read lines such as your last and it's usually not the ase. Again, not to hound on you I'm just generally curious.

[mrwednesdaynight]

vincerussoisgod said:

mrwednesdaynight said:

the problem with that is there never seems to be one last match. im not going to shell out the dollars for his "last match" only to have him come back in three monthes. if you call our hobby wrestling, then he simply can't wrestle anymore. I stated that previously. If we call it sports entertainment, lets break that down. in the world of sports, you may remember or have heard of willie mayes last season, mohamaed ali's last fight, evander holyfield's last five fights, or dan marino's last game. in every case, the athlete look worn out, broken down, and a pathetic shell of their former shelves. on the entertainment side of things, if i dont find something entertaining, then i dont want to see if. movies come out every week and bad tv shows air everyday that i dont want to watch. so if they bring flair back for "one last run" count me out, i wont watch it.

Not to harp on you but would you really??? Flair comes out at Survivor Series and begins his retirement tour. Would you really change the channel or do something else during these segments??? I'm just curious because I feel like I read lines such as your last and it's usually not the ase. Again, not to hound on you I'm just generally curious.

well, if it is a raw exclusive, id only be able to see it in spanish as i am without cable at the moment. raw can be seen in spanish on univision. but i usually just watch smackdown. id have to say if he comes out and does his retirement tour, it would have to hook me with something compelling early or else the ric flair match will be my smoke break as are most of the diva matches. on one hand, its hard to believe a wrestler when they say they are going to retire. second, it would lead to wrestlemania in your scenario which i would watch not because ric flair will be there but because its the only pay per view i will go out of my way to see, third i feel like if i get excited about a flair retirement tour they may feel like they could still get some mileage out of him and three monthes later he would be back thus cursing me to suffer more bad matches and cringing at him stumbling around the ring.

[Hiroshi Hase]

vincerussoisgod said:

mrwednesdaynight said:

the problem with that is there never seems to be one last match. im not going to shell out the dollars for his "last match" only to have him come back in three monthes. if you call our hobby wrestling, then he simply can't wrestle anymore. I stated that previously. If we call it sports entertainment, lets break that down. in the world of sports, you may remember or have heard of willie mayes last season, mohamaed ali's last fight, evander holyfield's last five fights, or dan marino's last game. in every case, the athlete look worn out, broken down, and a pathetic shell of their former shelves. on the entertainment side of things, if i dont find something entertaining, then i dont want to see if. movies come out every week and bad tv shows air everyday that i dont want to watch. so if they bring flair back for "one last run" count me out, i wont watch it.

Not to harp on you but would you really??? Flair comes out at Survivor Series and begins his retirement tour. Would you really change the channel or do something else during these segments??? I'm just curious because I feel like I read lines such as your last and it's usually not the ase. Again, not to hound on you I'm just generally curious.

I probably would change the channel or do something else, not to spite Flair, but I'd rather wait till the end of Retirement tour to watch personally as anything going into that won't be much to watch,IMO.

The way he was booked this year and last was horrible, perhaps that's why I'm a bit disinterested in Flair as of late.

[Leaving after 1,600]

This just came to me as i was visiting the Tri state indy board, which doesn't generally talk about WWE stuff, yet there is a topic about Ric Flair on there, which proves my point that the man is still a draw in this buisness. He is the topic of discussion everywhere, which means that people still miss him and that people still remember him. Hell if when im his age people are still talking about me I'd fill pretty damn good and probably wouldn't hang it up either. The fact people even notice he is missing shows something.

[jerichoholicninja]

Can Ric Flair keep up? The answer is yes...ALL night long! WHOOOO. With the extra protection afforded by his man-boobs, I predict Naitch will unify all the belts and retire as the undisputed master of the wrestling universe of all time. Oh get in that line for Space Mountain!

[The only Buzz Sawyer mark ever]

It's got to be Hogan-Flair icon vs icon retirement match at WM24... with a run-in by Cena, who destroys them both with chairs for a no-contest, turning him heel, putting him over with the IWC and passing the torch all at the same time.

[AriadosMan]

mrwednesdaynight said:

the problem with that is there never seems to be one last match. im not going to shell out the dollars for his "last match" only to have him come back in three monthes. if you call our hobby wrestling, then he simply can't wrestle anymore. I stated that previously. If we call it sports entertainment, lets break that down. in the world of sports, you may remember or have heard of willie mayes last season, mohamaed ali's last fight, evander holyfield's last five fights, or dan marino's last game. in every case, the athlete look worn out, broken down, and a pathetic shell of their former shelves. on the entertainment side of things, if i dont find something entertaining, then i dont want to see if. movies come out every week and bad tv shows air everyday that i dont want to watch. so if they bring flair back for "one last run" count me out, i wont watch it.

Finally, someone who actually agrees with me. Flair has been given way too many "last runs for old time's sake", and he honestly doesn't look like he can compete with the younger guys anymore.

[doytch]

flair has always been old and bad. he needs to have wrestling in diapers due to not control of his poo. woooooo? no i says pooooooo he stinks.

[The Ichi]

People saying that Flair can't go anymore need to take a look at some of these idiots on the card. I'll take an awesome, EXPERIENCED wrestler past his prime than...The Great Khali and Batista.

[longdogga]

proof that this man is god

i was at a house show in adelaide and it went something like this

"THE FOLLOWING CONTEST IS THE LAST MATCH BEFORE THE BREAK AND IS A TAG TEAM MATCH"

crowd sits down uninterested

"WWOOOOOOOO"

the f***ing place exploded and people where woooooing all night after that

[tyler632]

I would love to see Flair get another run. He is still over, when he comes out you never here anyone say "oh no its ric flair this is gonna suck". The way that he wrestles now makes sense even though it might not be the most exciting. He picks his spot, takes cheap shot and scraps like an old man should in a fight.

You can't tell me people wouldn't mark for his last chance to be a champion again. Storyline wise that would mean he would be giving all that he has left for one last run because that is what he wants. He would hold nothing back because there is no tomorrow and people love to see a chase like that. Look at Bret Favre and the Packers this year. They are picking up a huge following due in large part to it being towards the end of Brets career, and seeing him being rejuvinated and leading a successful team towards the playoffs. They could do the same thing with Flair. Have him come back from his time off rejuvinated and ready to give everything he has for one last title win.

Not all of the matches would be very good, but really how many WWE matches are. It would be all about the story.

[Hiroshi Hase]

tyler632 said:

I would love to see Flair get another run. He is still over, when he comes out you never here anyone say "oh no its ric flair this is gonna suck". The way that he wrestles now makes sense even though it might not be the most exciting. He picks his spot, takes cheap shot and scraps like an old man should in a fight.

You can't tell me people wouldn't mark for his last chance to be a champion again. Storyline wise that would mean he would be giving all that he has left for one last run because that is what he wants. He would hold nothing back because there is no tomorrow and people love to see a chase like that. Look at Bret Favre and the Packers this year. They are picking up a huge following due in large part to it being towards the end of Brets career, and seeing him being rejuvinated and leading a successful team towards the playoffs. They could do the same thing with Flair. Have him come back from his time off rejuvinated and ready to give everything he has for one last title win.

Not all of the matches would be very good, but really how many WWE matches are. It would be all about the story.

If it's going to be like his IC title run, then I'll pass.

[jzbadblood]

I paid to watch Rocky fight one last time, I'm going to pay to watch Rambo kick ass one last time, and I'd pay to watch Ric Flair wrestle one last time. IMO he's still entertaining, and one last emotional run going in to Wrestlemania would be epic and compelling.

[Metalheadbanger Man]

If he has one last 'Mania match, who would he face?

Personally I, like many, believe the man to be the epitome of a wrestling legend, but he seems to only be put out there for a nostalgia pop nowadays. He can still surprise me (taking a suplex off the ladder at WM22) but he really should hang it up in the very near future and enjoy his retirement knowing how much he as contributed to the industry.

[picklerabbi]

How can Jericho compete with Flair?

[Garyspivey]

i am calling this right now...next week in charlotte flair gets a bigger pop then jericho did in his return. Flair is a god in North Carolina