Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Nov 20, 2007 1:42:20 GMT -5
Well what do you all think? My vote goes to Hogan, but HHH and Jarrett are a close 2nd and 3rd in my book.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 20, 2007 1:43:45 GMT -5
Other: Ventura... he won governorship for crying out loud!
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Post by darbus alan on Nov 20, 2007 1:46:40 GMT -5
Definitely Hogan.
Since when is Cena a backstage politician? Never heard about that before and he doesn't strike me as the type.
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Post by Jazzman on Nov 20, 2007 1:47:47 GMT -5
Other: Ventura... he won governorship for crying out loud! seconded |
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Post by mikedh on Nov 20, 2007 1:50:10 GMT -5
Probably HHH. Hogan was much more popular and profitable than HHH ever was and more or less deserved his main event spot for quite some time (clearly not his entire main event career though).
HHH was a main event talent (especially before his injury) , but was never going to be a legend like Savage, Hogan, Rock, Austin, Foley, Flair, or Andre. He stayed in the main event forever because of his backstage relations and was always the focus of the "A" show regardless of weather he had the title or not.
It's strange that HHH really is not THAT popular. He really only ever got a huge pop that one time when returned to MSG. Heck; Austin got a bigger pop at Summerslam than HHH did returning from his injury.
It's sort of complicated with Jarret though. He clearly should have given the NWA title to Monty Brown and not nealry had as many or as long of runs as he did. But TNA's main event scene was very poor for a long time , unlike WWE's where HHH ran over everyone.
Hogan might actually have used politics more in his career, but he deserved his spot for far longer than Hunter ever did.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Nov 20, 2007 1:51:01 GMT -5
Definitely Hogan. Since when is Cena a backstage politician? Never heard about that before and he doesn't strike me as the type. I've heard a few rumors about him honestly. For example that he and Vinny Mac "hang out" together often times back stage, any employee who is overly friendly with the boss in my experience usually is trying to score brownie points in work place politics. |
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Post by mikedh on Nov 20, 2007 1:52:20 GMT -5
Definitely Hogan. Since when is Cena a backstage politician? Never heard about that before and he doesn't strike me as the type. I've heard a few rumors about him honestly. For example that he and Vinny Mac "hang out" together often times back stage, any employee who is overly friendly with the boss in my experience usually is trying to score brownie points in work place politics. Cena is the public face of the company right now. He SHOULD be meeting with McMahon. Vince even has Cena do his media appearnces because Vince sucks so bad at it and always blows up. |
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Nov 20, 2007 1:53:57 GMT -5
Definitely Hogan. Since when is Cena a backstage politician? Never heard about that before and he doesn't strike me as the type. Don't you know? Anyone who gets ahead MUST be politicing! So says the IWC. |
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Nov 20, 2007 2:03:02 GMT -5
Definitely Hogan. Since when is Cena a backstage politician? Never heard about that before and he doesn't strike me as the type. Don't you know? Anyone who gets ahead MUST be politicing! So says the IWC. BTW I didn't hear it from IWC, not that it really matters. I guess the Cena option will just have to be chalked up to subjectivism, and leave it at that. |
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Post by mikedh on Nov 20, 2007 2:07:06 GMT -5
Do you have any examples of Cena using politics to determine his certain feuds or character? Did he ever refuse a program? Refuse to lose? Map a program to his liking?
Or does he just talk with his boss alot because he happens to be the number one cash cow in his boss's company?
Including Cena on a poll about "The greatest politician in history" is just wrong. Has he ever even been part of a booking or creative team for a company he worked for while he was still wrestling like many many other wrestlers in history? I don't even see how he can be included.
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Nov 20, 2007 2:13:46 GMT -5
As I've stated it is just rumors, but the basic claims are that amongst other things Vince keeps Cena and HHH apart because both are his favorite pets and he doesn't want to choose who gets to squash who. Another claim is that yes Cena does refuse to loose too various people, that is why he has held onto the strap for so long. Vince concedes to these demands because Cena's merchandise is big with the kiddies. An old saying goes the proof is in the pudding, think about it.
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Post by mikedh on Nov 20, 2007 2:26:19 GMT -5
Cena's demands? It's Vinces company and dosent have to give into demands of Cena if he does not want too. He pushes him because he is the number one cash cow in the company and was the most dependable guy for a long time until his recent injury.
Also, who did he REFUSE to lose too? I have never heard anything about that and Cena seemed to not have a problem with having his world title feuds be the "B" story to DX's silly antics. Not to mention being verbally burried by HHH and verbally burried again during the ECW invasion storyline. You think Trips would have done what Cena did during that storyline? Everyone knows he would not have.
You are just speaking in generalities and have very baseless claims. Like I said earlier, wrestling has a history of active talent being involved with creative and booking. Cena is not involved with either, so I see no reason for him to even be brought up.
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Post by mrwednesdaynight on Nov 20, 2007 2:41:44 GMT -5
Triple H is not a great politician. He was just fortunate enough that Vince had a daughter that liked him.
Hogan had to be the best politician ever. He managed to convince most of the companies he worked with that they could no live without him. He managed to get all of his friends, regardless of talent or likablity, jobs at WCW. That, my friends, is impressive.
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Post by Iheartblackpeople on Nov 20, 2007 2:56:09 GMT -5
Other: Bob Backlund.
As a child I remember watching him during his "I'm gonna run for president" WWF angle, and thinking he had a legit shot at winning because if the bad guys won in wrestling all the time, why not in politics too? (which in hindsight was actually intelligent reasoning on my part)
Anyway once he got major 9-year-old-me-heat when he delivered a promo where he said something like "I'm gonna outlaw calculators in schools, kids should learn math with their hands!" I immediately ran upstairs and told my dad not to vote for him. I was adorable. Every vote counts.
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Post by smartcenadude on Nov 20, 2007 3:55:00 GMT -5
the game for bagging steph
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Post by bindergang on Nov 20, 2007 3:57:41 GMT -5
Kane.
I hear he's always asking to win titles and bury people.
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Post by BxB on Nov 20, 2007 4:45:56 GMT -5
Nash is the least talented out of the people on the poll and he still managed to be a booker in WCW. Goes to show you something.
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Post by pathogen on Nov 20, 2007 7:49:47 GMT -5
Clearly Hogan. Watching him perfoprm can be likened to watching paint dry, his finisher is a leg drop, yet he has how much of a push? Either politics or voodoo, I'd say!
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Post by MCMGM on Nov 20, 2007 8:56:17 GMT -5
Cena doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would use his backstage pull for anything bad. I think he knows what's good for business and isn't out for himself.
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Post by joeman on Nov 20, 2007 9:19:19 GMT -5
Why is John Cena on the list again?
I pick Hulk Hogan, he once attempted to run for President of United States back in WCW.
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