The Cool Pup
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Post by The Cool Pup on Nov 19, 2007 6:55:37 GMT -5
This has dawned onto me a lot through my years as a fan. A while back I was involved with a local promotion, and in the backstage (or just a hallway at a large gym complex.) The wrestlers and champions would just set their belts in a box in the backstage and grab them and use them for the crowd or cameras if any were there that night for taping.
I thought that was standard fair for all promotions --after all, it is a work, so why would they really keep their "earnings"? I got confused about this when you hear about the times a then-champion takes the belt and goes to the rival companies show and throws it in a trash or disgraces it. Isn't the belt the property of the company, since they assign it to you? I wouldn't think that if the Super Bowl was rigged, they would give out rings to every member on the team to cherish.
Do the wrestlers really get to keep the belts if they have them? I always thought that if that were the case, there was the off-chance a wrestler could misplace it or leave it at home or somewhere, which wouldn't happen if it was something used just for show and kept backstage and for when the cameras are rolling.
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Kae
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Post by Kae on Nov 19, 2007 6:57:00 GMT -5
I've heard that they're responsible for the belts, yes. They get to keep them and bring them to shows. I was surprised by it too, especially after the belt in the trash can incident.
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Post by Numero Dos on Nov 19, 2007 6:58:57 GMT -5
I know if I was a champion I'd be a bit worried about the bel getting lost or being stolen.
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Post by leemir on Nov 19, 2007 7:04:18 GMT -5
JBL once forget the US belt on a Euro tour & just used a Tag belt. And wasn't the World title once stolen from HBK?
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 19, 2007 7:06:53 GMT -5
And wasn't the World title once stolen from HBK? I don't know about that, but I do remember a power-obsessed Hart Foundation have Owen Hart steal the belt from Undertaker's locker-room in 1997. That night was hilarious! ;D |
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Splinter
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Post by Splinter on Nov 19, 2007 7:11:33 GMT -5
Billy Gunn frequently forgot his tag belt when he was in the New Age Outlaws
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Post by Topher is Human on Nov 19, 2007 8:23:29 GMT -5
I think it's something like the Champ pays a $10K deposit, and if they do it's pretty much theirs until they lose it to someone (and they get the $10K back)
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Post by darbus alan on Nov 19, 2007 8:56:12 GMT -5
Yeah, at least that's how it was done in WCW. The whole reason Flair went to the WWF for a couple of years in the early 90's was because Jim Herd was an asshole about giving him his deposit back when he lost the title.
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Erik Majorwitz
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Nov 19, 2007 8:59:40 GMT -5
I guess in a pinch they could use WWE ShopZone if they left the belt at the crib.
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Mitch 4:20
Don Corleone
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Post by Mitch 4:20 on Nov 19, 2007 9:18:02 GMT -5
I figured it goes like this...
HBK beats Y2J for the World Title
HBK gets to take home the belt he won from Y2J and Y2J gets a fresh belt for his reign.
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If HBK beats Y2J for his title, Y2J takes home his belt he had been defending and now HBK gets the new belt which he will later get to keep when someone else beats him.
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if you win it, you CAN buy it... but don't have to. You COULD let it just move to the next champ in case having it as a take home trophy isn't that big of a deal.
Did that make sense?
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Post by Raja Lion on Nov 19, 2007 9:19:43 GMT -5
I guess in a pinch they could use WWE ShopZone if they left the belt at the crib. they did the night Edge "trashed" the spinner only to come back with a ten times worse spinner the next week lol |
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Nov 19, 2007 9:30:17 GMT -5
They don't do the deposit thing anymore because it was ruled in court that a company's World title belt belongs to the company. Of course, since replicas are being made, all you really need is $500 for a spare.
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Max Kirgan
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Post by Max Kirgan on Nov 19, 2007 10:59:31 GMT -5
They don't do the deposit thing anymore because it was ruled in court that a company's World title belt belongs to the company. Of course, since replicas are being made, all you really need is $500 for a spare. Replicas would do in a pinch and casual fans wouldn't know the difference. They're really easy to tell apart though. Due to the shallower etching on the plates, when you look at them they just look flat. Also real belts have backing over the screws on the back. That's one thing that stuck out for me when they first brought back the ECW title. The new belt wasn't ready yet so they used a replica. You could tell when bak of the belt was on camera. There was no backing and the screws were exposed. As for wreslters keeping belts after their reigns, I'm not sure of the circumstances but I do know of a couple of cases. Flair most likely has the original Big Gold. Dusty has one as well. When they were making Ready to Rumble 2 more were made for use during the movie. Afterwards DDP kept both and gave one to Kanyon. If you caught the CNN documentary that recently aired, you can see his Big Gold in a case behind him. HHH also kept a Big Eagle from one of his title reigns I'm not sure which title reign but it was the one that he had blue backing on. In some cases, wrestlers don't always take care of the belts. Randy Savage was the one most notorious. If you can find any promo pics of Flair, Hart, or Yokozuna during their first title reings, look at the winged eagle. The tip of the wing on the right side is broken off. I've also seen pics of the wcw title circa 2000-2001 where the entire top part of the belt was bent back. |
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Post by J-Man R. on Nov 19, 2007 11:09:01 GMT -5
They did that with the ECW belt, they used a replica because Rhino burned the actual ECW title.
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Post by DrewVonAwesome on Nov 19, 2007 11:27:00 GMT -5
They did that with the ECW belt, they used a replica because Rhino burned the actual ECW title. Actually if I remember correctly, in an interview Rhino stated that he didn't burn the actual ECW title, but a replica and has the actual title in his house. |
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malloc
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Post by malloc on Nov 19, 2007 11:59:54 GMT -5
the bent wcw belt was used after bash at the beach when hogan got upset coz russo called him bald
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 19, 2007 12:11:35 GMT -5
I know, after seeing his WWE house tour thing, that Edge has versions of all the belts he's won at his house. Seriously, he's won so many belts, it's ridiculous.  |
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Post by jamofpearls on Nov 19, 2007 12:12:57 GMT -5
I know, after seeing his WWE house tour thing, that Edge has versions of all the belts he's won at his house. Seriously, he's won so many belts, it's ridiculous. Same w/ the rock, and Hogan. Anytime shots of a trophy room, i see a couple of different belts in cases and what not. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 19, 2007 12:18:01 GMT -5
I know, after seeing his WWE house tour thing, that Edge has versions of all the belts he's won at his house. Seriously, he's won so many belts, it's ridiculous. Same w/ the rock, and Hogan. Anytime shots of a trophy room, i see a couple of different belts in cases and what not. Hogan's got that ridiculously stupid room of all the merchandice he's ever had. Not that he shouldn't have it...it's like...wow...the WWF promoted him THAT much?! |
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Nov 19, 2007 12:19:50 GMT -5
didn't the road dogg get arrested for strutting round a hotel wearing nothing but the european title? i swear i read that somewhere.
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