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Post by stevierichardsfan on Nov 21, 2007 20:19:22 GMT -5
warrior was over in his day
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Post by YouStayClassy on Nov 21, 2007 20:27:01 GMT -5
He was super over in WCW in 1998 as well. At first.... By the time Halloween Havoc hit you could definitely hear the boos.
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Post by Se7en: Horse That Wrote Poems on Nov 21, 2007 22:48:59 GMT -5
I know i marked just because it was a sure-fire comeback tour. Not for the man.
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Post by The In-Crowd on Nov 21, 2007 23:39:53 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by pokey on Nov 21, 2007 23:47:48 GMT -5
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Post by ultimatekennedy on Nov 21, 2007 23:48:43 GMT -5
I can hear Smarks crying right now as I watch this. 96 era Warrior stuff is something I haven't seen much of. Warrior rocks and could pop amazing now if he ever came back. (Yeah fu**ing right) but he would.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Nov 22, 2007 0:23:13 GMT -5
WWE revisionist history > evidence of actual large pop
Just like it's now official that WCW was a bunch of thieving bastards out to destroy the WWF and put McMahon in the poorhouse.
WWE has Crisis on Infinite Earths like power.
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Post by robferatu on Nov 22, 2007 0:28:16 GMT -5
I think he was over, but quickly lost fans. Like they popped pretty hard for him at Wrestlemania, and the subsequent Raw, but after a few weeks fans seemed to not react to him that much.
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Post by hassanchop on Nov 22, 2007 1:02:41 GMT -5
Should've feuded with Mick Foley when he was Mankind.
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Post by tankmcquade on Nov 22, 2007 1:42:16 GMT -5
1996 was a terrible year for me, I'm kinda bummed I missed out on this Warrior return. Makes me wonder tho, what if Warrior stuck around through the beginning of the attitude era......
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Post by robferatu on Nov 22, 2007 2:39:01 GMT -5
Should've feuded with Mick Foley when he was Mankind. I'm sure he would of, but you have to remember the Warrior only lasted about 3 months when he came back, wasn't too much time to fued with anyone. I recall hearing a rumor that he was original going to do what Sycho Sid ended up doing, turning on Michaels and getting the WWF Championship, but of course that wasn't so.
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Post by Joie De Vivre on Nov 22, 2007 2:46:41 GMT -5
I remember that video very vividly when it first happened. I marked for when he said, 'Shit', That was a good promo.
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Post by skillz on Nov 22, 2007 9:59:05 GMT -5
WWE revisionist history > evidence of actual large pop Just like it's now official that WCW was a bunch of thieving bastards out to destroy the WWF and put McMahon in the poorhouse. WWE has Crisis on Infinite Earths like power. Yep. That's why I'd never buy a WWE produced DVD. It would be better if independent sources would do the documentary portions, but that might ruin the WWE's fantasy world revionism, and we can't have that. The fact that some people are actually going to believe what the WWE says in their DVD's makes it worse (which is why I'm dreading a Savage release). Saying Warrior wasn't as popular in 1996 as he was in 1988-1992 is fine. That's likely true. But saying he wasn't over at all, or that fans weren't responsive to him is asinine.
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Post by threev on Nov 22, 2007 10:01:01 GMT -5
I don't get why everyone says the Warrior's promos were so awful. They were intelligible, they were just extremely long winded and ranting, and you really had to pay attention for a long while before you could understand any of his points. But then go look at this blogs, and it's the same story. Warrior's character was developed at the height of the comic book wrestling era, and the fact that he tried to develop his own comic book should probably be a reflection of what he thought his character was. If you've ever read a comic book, you know that only half of that stuff really ever makes sense either.
As far as Warrior being over goes, I think in '96 he was having a house show tour promoting his return, where he was going over Vader in almost every town. I went to one of the shows, and the match was short and pretty horrible, but it got the biggest buzz of the night, bar none. Warrior was probably not over as much in '96 as earlier in his career (but a face version of Hogan in '96 wasn't either), but he was probably as over or more over than just about anybody save Sting, Undertaker and Shawn Michaels that year.
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Post by threev on Nov 22, 2007 10:02:45 GMT -5
1996 was a terrible year for me, I'm kinda bummed I missed out on this Warrior return. Makes me wonder tho, what if Warrior stuck around through the beginning of the attitude era...... 1996 reminds me more of 2007 then any other year. '93-'95 were pretty bad storyline wise for the WWE, and in 1996 they seemed to have all the pieces in place to put together a decent product (Sid, Hart, Michaels, Undertaker all toward the end of the year), Vader was there, Warrior in mid-card squashes, Austin working his way up the undercard, the arrival of Pillman, and yet everything seemed stale and stagnant. But look what it turned into in just about a year's time. So maybe there's hope.
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Post by acressl on Nov 22, 2007 10:10:12 GMT -5
1996 was a terrible year for me, I'm kinda bummed I missed out on this Warrior return. Makes me wonder tho, what if Warrior stuck around through the beginning of the attitude era...... What if the Warrior was given a posse to face down the NOD, Los Boricuas and DOA?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 22, 2007 10:15:23 GMT -5
1996 was a terrible year for me, I'm kinda bummed I missed out on this Warrior return. Makes me wonder tho, what if Warrior stuck around through the beginning of the attitude era...... 1996 reminds me more of 2007 then any other year. '93-'95 were pretty bad storyline wise for the WWE, and in 1996 they seemed to have all the pieces in place to put together a decent product (Sid, Hart, Michaels, Undertaker all toward the end of the year), Vader was there, Warrior in mid-card squashes, Austin working his way up the undercard, the arrival of Pillman, and yet everything seemed stale and stagnant. But look what it turned into in just about a year's time. So maybe there's hope. But WWE had competition at that time to push them into making the product largely watchable and getting their s*** together. Nowadays, nothing has happened. People were saying that a year ago that in 07 things will boom and wrestling will be the talk of the town, well it has, but for the wrong reasons.
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Post by threev on Nov 22, 2007 10:17:24 GMT -5
1996 reminds me more of 2007 then any other year. '93-'95 were pretty bad storyline wise for the WWE, and in 1996 they seemed to have all the pieces in place to put together a decent product (Sid, Hart, Michaels, Undertaker all toward the end of the year), Vader was there, Warrior in mid-card squashes, Austin working his way up the undercard, the arrival of Pillman, and yet everything seemed stale and stagnant. But look what it turned into in just about a year's time. So maybe there's hope. But WWE had competition at that time to push them into making the product largely watchable and getting their s*** together. Nowadays, nothing has happened. People were saying that a year ago that in 07 things will boom and wrestling will be the talk of the town, well it has, but for the wrong reasons. As sad as it seems, and I know this is kind of a stretch, but still, with Raw hitting 2.8 a month or two ago and the *speculative* 2.5 that was probably a bit higher, with UFC, ROH, and TNA their competition may not be from one big medial mogul this time around but from the idea that so many people will stale on the product so fast that they'll just exile elsewhere.
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Post by rubber johnny on Nov 22, 2007 17:47:30 GMT -5
i always wondered what would have happened if warrior stayed on until austin took off
having a beer drinking hooligan and a magical journeyman as the two most over guys in your company
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