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Post by krazysane on Nov 28, 2007 21:37:06 GMT -5
Short and sweet. So, we have flair win the rumble or win at no way out. He wins the title at wrestlemania. The Money In The bank winner cashes it in right there and defeats flair. Letting him go out on top and also pass the torch to someone else at the biggest event of the year. It would also be the first time the MITB winner cashed in at wrestlemania.
Whatcha think?
Who would win the MITB and defeat Flair?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 21:40:00 GMT -5
I'd like to see it.
Maybe Kennedy, which is what he said he was going to do the first time around.
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Nov 28, 2007 21:48:13 GMT -5
Kennedy, MVP, Shelton, or Elijah
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 21:54:33 GMT -5
There are only 3 people I would buy doing that: Kennedy, Santino(who would lose), or Jeff Hardy. With Flair as champ, I'd expect Kennedy, but prefer Hardy. I think that would really cement him as a main event guy, by taking the belt from and retiring one of the 2 biggest stars still living.
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Post by SassovsHart on Nov 28, 2007 21:58:16 GMT -5
I don't really like the idea, because I think it takes away from the brutality of the ladder match. The MITB works because the ladder match is one of the most physical matches out there, so people are putting themselves through hell for that briefcase. Even if Flair was tired as well, I don't like the guy being in shape to compete again the same night after going through all that.
Last time they had a ladder match they were really putting over the WGTT not being able to compete on RAW the next night, and the Hardyz having to compete even though they were incredibly beat up. It wouldn't be the same to me without them playing it up like the guys are putting their bodies on the line, and making a huge sacrifice by competing in a ladder match.
If I had to pick someone though, it would need to be a heel like Kennedy who could hide during the whole MITB match without taking any bumps.
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Post by WWHHHD on Nov 28, 2007 22:03:49 GMT -5
I don't really like the idea, because I think it takes away from the brutality of the ladder match. The MITB works because the ladder match is one of the most physical matches out there, so people are putting themselves through hell for that briefcase. Even if Flair was tired as well, I don't like the guy being in shape to compete again the same night after going through all that. Last time they had a ladder match they were really putting over the WGTT not being able to compete on RAW the next night, and the Hardyz having to compete even though they were incredibly beat up. It wouldn't be the same to me without them playing it up like the guys are putting their bodies on the line, and making a huge sacrifice by competing in a ladder match. If I had to pick someone though, it would need to be a heel like Kennedy who could hide during the whole MITB match without taking any bumps. The first sentence took the words from my mouth exactly!
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Post by pathogen on Nov 28, 2007 22:08:13 GMT -5
I likw it, and vote Kennedy. The brutality and fatigue will merely serve ot put his cridibility over IMO, and I think it'd work well.
KENNEDY!
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Nov 28, 2007 22:10:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing Flair beat Edge for the big, gold belt. As far as who takes it from him. How bout MVP?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 22:19:44 GMT -5
I don't really like the idea, because I think it takes away from the brutality of the ladder match. The MITB works because the ladder match is one of the most physical matches out there, so people are putting themselves through hell for that briefcase. Even if Flair was tired as well, I don't like the guy being in shape to compete again the same night after going through all that. Last time they had a ladder match they were really putting over the WGTT not being able to compete on RAW the next night, and the Hardyz having to compete even though they were incredibly beat up. It wouldn't be the same to me without them playing it up like the guys are putting their bodies on the line, and making a huge sacrifice by competing in a ladder match. If I had to pick someone though, it would need to be a heel like Kennedy who could hide during the whole MITB match without taking any bumps. OK, I get what you're saying. However, I think that if someone won the ladder match and then cashed it in the same night, it would show just how much the title means to him. He'd be tougher than Flair, since Flair would've gone through hell to earn the title match, but didn't have the title match the same night. The MITB winner would have maybe 2 or 3 hours to rest, while Flair had 6-10 weeks to prepare. I just think it puts over how important the title is if someone would compete in a ladder match, then come back 3 hours later to wrestle for the title. It would be sort of like Randy Savage at Wrestlemania 4. How 'bout this: Jeff Hardy wins the MITB, but gets attacked by Kennedy afterwards. Kennedy beats the hell out of him with the ladder and the briefcase. Later, they show Hardy being worked on. Then, after Flair beats Orton, Jeff comes down to the ring, stitched up, favoring his shoulder. He says he respects Flair, and wants the honor of facing Flair at Wrestlemania for the WWE Title. Flair asks him if he's sure, Hardy says yeah, and the bell rings. They go at it for about 15 minutes, the Jeff hits the Whisper in the Wind and goes up for the Swanton. Flair roles out of the way and Jeff hits the mat hard. Flair gets to his feet and struts like only the Nature Boy can. He goes to apply the Figure 4, but Jeff rolls him up in a Small Package and gets the win. As Hardy is awarded the title, Flair seethes in the corner, then he shoves the ref out of the way and takes the belt. He puts it on Jeff's shoulder and shakes his hand. Then he makes his way up the aisle while Jeff celebrates with Matt Hardy, who won the US Title earlier in the night. And the torch is passed.
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Nov 28, 2007 22:29:28 GMT -5
I'm not much of a Jeff Hardy fan but that's an awesome idea.
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Post by ButterFly Suplex on Nov 28, 2007 22:33:34 GMT -5
I see Flair somehow leave Wrestlemania as the champion in his final match
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Post by royboy8 on Nov 28, 2007 23:00:00 GMT -5
I bet thats what is going to happen.... Maybe Y2J or Kennedy winning MITB this year??
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Post by PTBartman on Nov 28, 2007 23:27:45 GMT -5
I don't really like the idea, because I think it takes away from the brutality of the ladder match. The MITB works because the ladder match is one of the most physical matches out there, so people are putting themselves through hell for that briefcase. Even if Flair was tired as well, I don't like the guy being in shape to compete again the same night after going through all that. Last time they had a ladder match they were really putting over the WGTT not being able to compete on RAW the next night, and the Hardyz having to compete even though they were incredibly beat up. It wouldn't be the same to me without them playing it up like the guys are putting their bodies on the line, and making a huge sacrifice by competing in a ladder match. If I had to pick someone though, it would need to be a heel like Kennedy who could hide during the whole MITB match without taking any bumps. Exactly. And what if he cashed it in to unify both titles in a tripple threat match, both retiring Rick Flair and ending Taker's streak. He'd be the biggest heel since Piper slapped Cyndi Lauper. Let Jericho roll out of the ring early Have to be Kennedy Jeff or Punk. It'd be a great heel turn for Jeff or Punk.
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Post by Massive G on Nov 28, 2007 23:30:58 GMT -5
I think its a cool idea. Only now it wouldn't be a surprise anymore, which would take some of the luster off it.
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Post by Schemer on Nov 28, 2007 23:32:27 GMT -5
About ten thousand things would have to go exactly right for that angle finish to work. Granted, I absolutely love it. I say it should be Kennedy. He's close... If he can keep his mouth shut, I would expect him to get the rub. For it to be Santino, he would have to beat some really good people in a real hurry. Hardy seems to be getting a HHH rub, so it's not necessary.
MVP is an interesting one as well, but I don't think he needs it. I think he already got the education and rub he needed with his feud with He Who Must Not Be Named.
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Post by krazysane on Nov 29, 2007 11:47:02 GMT -5
Great ideas guys. Thanks for giving your opinions on this topic.
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Post by Loki on Nov 29, 2007 12:01:20 GMT -5
The idea could work, had been Flair like 10 years younger.
At this point in time, Flair has no torch to pass, not even a match IMO.
He's been jobbed left and right for at least one year, following his last hooray feud against Triple H. The last hooray was probably the Ladder Match against Edge and the sick spot in the MITB match. BUt it's all from early 2006... Then he lost to Carlito and Kenny Dykstra...
I'm not doubting the Legend or the legacy of the Nature Boy, but I just don't think he'd be main eventing a PPV.
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Post by emoney3265 on Nov 29, 2007 12:47:10 GMT -5
I don't really like the idea, because I think it takes away from the brutality of the ladder match. The MITB works because the ladder match is one of the most physical matches out there, so people are putting themselves through hell for that briefcase. Even if Flair was tired as well, I don't like the guy being in shape to compete again the same night after going through all that. Last time they had a ladder match they were really putting over the WGTT not being able to compete on RAW the next night, and the Hardyz having to compete even though they were incredibly beat up. It wouldn't be the same to me without them playing it up like the guys are putting their bodies on the line, and making a huge sacrifice by competing in a ladder match. If I had to pick someone though, it would need to be a heel like Kennedy who could hide during the whole MITB match without taking any bumps. I basically agree with this. But then again, I don't like the whole idea of RichOLD Flair winning the Royal Rumble. That really should be used to put someone over or use someone that's on the verge of main eventing.
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Post by Hensley on Nov 29, 2007 17:07:39 GMT -5
Kennedy
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Post by Hensley on Nov 29, 2007 17:08:04 GMT -5
...Kennedy!
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