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Post by SassovsHart on Nov 29, 2007 8:24:15 GMT -5
Wasn't Unforgiven 2002 only a couple weeks after the title was brought back? Would have been kind of lame to do a title change so quickly imo. I understand that he was probably at the height of his popularity in 01/02, but if they were going to put the title on him, then maybe they could have done it a couple PPV's later. Unforgiven never seemed like the right time to me.
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Post by SassovsHart on Nov 29, 2007 8:27:47 GMT -5
You're both talking like WWE didn't know RVD loves the weed. They without really saying it, let it be part of his gimmick. "No one gets higher than RVD" subtle.......However, the only mistake RVD made was getting the story in the paper. Had it never made the paper, RVD and Sabu would have been just fine. I agree with that completely. They incorporated it into his gimmick so much that one of the extras on the Royal Rumble 2006 DVD was a backstage segment where he and Tatanka are talking about "smoking the peace pipe". If he hadn't made headlines he would have been fine.
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Post by seano on Nov 29, 2007 9:02:53 GMT -5
The UK's Power Slam magazine recently interviewed Rob Van Dam. Here is what RVD had to say regarding his relationship -- or non-relationship -- with Triple H: Is it true you had problems with Triple H when you worked for WWE? Problems? I had problems liking him. I had problems feeling compatible with him on any other level other than the fact that we're both wrestlers. He would be one of the last guys you would see sharing a car with me. If we weren't both wrestlers, I doubt I'd have anything in common with him. There were a few occasions -- Unforgiven 2002 springs to mind -- when it seemed like the perfect time for you to defeat Triple H. After he attacked and beat you down on the September 16, 2002 Raw, you sought revenge in a singles bout at Unforgiven six days later. A win there would have been a tremendous boon for you. Meanwhile, a loss for HHH would have done his status no harm at all. As it turned out, HHH won by pinfall. It seemed like he cut you off. Well, I don't disagree with you. And that's why I'm glad my career is caught on videotape and DVD, so the fans can watch what happened in my career and say it all for me, like you just did. You've nothing further to add about HHH? When you're watching RVD TV (his online TV show), don't look for HHH to be in Rob Van Dam's house. And that is why RVD won't be back with the WWE.
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Post by Big L on Nov 29, 2007 9:13:51 GMT -5
Given the way he F'ed himself over when they did give him the spotlight, it kinda looks like they made the right decision to not go to him earlier. Just sayin. I agree agreeded
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 29, 2007 9:16:31 GMT -5
You're both talking like WWE didn't know RVD loves the weed. They without really saying it, let it be part of his gimmick. "No one gets higher than RVD" subtle.......However, the only mistake RVD made was getting the story in the paper. Had it never made the paper, RVD and Sabu would have been just fine. I agree with that completely. They incorporated it into his gimmick so much that one of the extras on the Royal Rumble 2006 DVD was a backstage segment where he and Tatanka are talking about "smoking the peace pipe". If he hadn't made headlines he would have been fine. I' glad someone else brought this up. Cause for a second, I could have sworn that I was the only person that knew RVD blazed trees well before he went to WWE.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 29, 2007 9:19:56 GMT -5
I agree with that completely. They incorporated it into his gimmick so much that one of the extras on the Royal Rumble 2006 DVD was a backstage segment where he and Tatanka are talking about "smoking the peace pipe". If he hadn't made headlines he would have been fine. I' glad someone else brought this up. Cause for a second, I could have sworn that I was the only person that knew RVD blazed trees well before he went to WWE. I knew it too, but still it doesn't give you a free pass to go and break the law. As for what RVD said, I think he said something along those lines a few years back where he said that someone in the back doesn't like him and has 3 of the same initials.
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Post by BHB on Nov 29, 2007 9:20:07 GMT -5
Is there an opposite of smark bait? Gold.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 29, 2007 9:32:04 GMT -5
Given the way he F'ed himself over when they did give him the spotlight, it kinda looks like they made the right decision to not go to him earlier. Just sayin. That's not the best reasoning. It's not like he was celebrating a title win by smoking and driving, it just happened to be poorly timed. If he won the title in 2002/3, there's no way to say if the same thing would have happened.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 29, 2007 9:34:41 GMT -5
Given the way he F'ed himself over when they did give him the spotlight, it kinda looks like they made the right decision to not go to him earlier. Just sayin. That's not the best reasoning. It's not like he was celebrating a title win by smoking and driving, it just happened to be poorly timed. If he won the title in 2002/3, there's no way to say if the same thing would have happened. That's true, but that's all the ammo that people who didn't like RVD would need to say to Vince, "See I told ya it wouldn't have worked out if we gave him the strap". It may not have happened, but if you are disliked like RVD was apparently, you've got to be on your toes.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 29, 2007 9:35:57 GMT -5
I' glad someone else brought this up. Cause for a second, I could have sworn that I was the only person that knew RVD blazed trees well before he went to WWE. I knew it too, but still it doesn't give you a free pass to go and break the law. As for what RVD said, I think he said something along those lines a few years back where he said that someone in the back doesn't like him and has 3 of the same initials. Believe me. I don't think it's a free pass and never will. If anything we all should let this go because we all know RVD isn't the first person to be employed by that company that has had previous or current involvement with illegal substances. Plus HHH's "Terra Ryzin Era" with the gold a few years back happened because the owner of the company allowed it. Sure i hated it too, but why blame the worker more than the boss.
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Post by Cypress on Nov 29, 2007 9:52:38 GMT -5
RVD was as over as anybody i think thats why he feels he shouldve got a run, and i agree.The guy was getting Austin pops during the invasion.
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Post by Libertine on Nov 29, 2007 9:53:40 GMT -5
RVD has such a terrible attitude.
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Post by Kae on Nov 29, 2007 10:47:19 GMT -5
RVD was as over as anybody i think thats why he feels he shouldve got a run, and i agree.The guy was getting Austin pops during the invasion. RVD annoys me. He keeps acting like the WWE and HHH held him down. When ECW was relaunched, he had two titles, including the WWE title! TWO! He then smoked weed with Sabu and got caught by the police, so they obviously had to strip him of them. Basically, RVD screwed RVD, and I wish he would man up and stop blaming Triple H.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 29, 2007 10:50:38 GMT -5
RVD was as over as anybody i think thats why he feels he shouldve got a run, and i agree.The guy was getting Austin pops during the invasion. RVD annoys me. He keeps acting like the WWE and HHH held him down. When ECW was relaunched, he had two titles, including the WWE title! TWO! He then smoked weed with Sabu and got caught by the police, so they obviously had to strip him of them. Basically, RVD screwed RVD, and I wish he would man up and stop blaming Triple H. I agree. The only way the WWE was holding down RVD, was with the weight of all those titles. And he just puffed it away. Seriously, only one person to blame here.
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Post by Ken Ivory on Nov 29, 2007 11:36:18 GMT -5
RVD was as over as anybody i think thats why he feels he shouldve got a run, and i agree.The guy was getting Austin pops during the invasion. RVD annoys me. He keeps acting like the WWE and HHH held him down. When ECW was relaunched, he had two titles, including the WWE title! TWO! He then smoked weed with Sabu and got caught by the police, so they obviously had to strip him of them. Basically, RVD screwed RVD, and I wish he would man up and stop blaming Triple H. Yea, he really screwed up there, I was quite pissed off about how stupid Rob was to do that!
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 29, 2007 11:38:43 GMT -5
RVD was as over as anybody i think thats why he feels he shouldve got a run, and i agree.The guy was getting Austin pops during the invasion. RVD annoys me. He keeps acting like the WWE and HHH held him down. When ECW was relaunched, he had two titles, including the WWE title! TWO! He then smoked weed with Sabu and got caught by the police, so they obviously had to strip him of them. Basically, RVD screwed RVD, and I wish he would man up and stop blaming Triple H. You make it sound like he was told years in advance that he would win two top titles. I don't really think he was complaining during or after the incident, but rather the many years before.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 29, 2007 11:40:56 GMT -5
RVD annoys me. He keeps acting like the WWE and HHH held him down. When ECW was relaunched, he had two titles, including the WWE title! TWO! He then smoked weed with Sabu and got caught by the police, so they obviously had to strip him of them. Basically, RVD screwed RVD, and I wish he would man up and stop blaming Triple H. You make it sound like he was told years in advance that he would win two top titles. I don't really think he was complaining during or after the incident, but rather the many years before. Of course he wasn't, but still he should've at least had some restraint on his personal habits, (yes I know others like Orton get away with it, but it wasn't by the cops) and realized he's under a lot of scrutiny and it would be a great chance to prove his detractors wrong.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 29, 2007 11:44:05 GMT -5
That would be like saying the WWE should have never pushed Chris Benoit, since he'd surely double murder-suicide the opportunity away.
Really? I've always found his attitude refreshing. He doesn't really have anything bad to say about Triple H or anybody, but he's not going to sit back and call him his best buddy. In a sport full of roid raged alpha-male dickfaces, RVD's laid back demeanor is a welcome change of pace.
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Post by weaselboy on Nov 29, 2007 11:47:28 GMT -5
May I point out that earlier in this interview Rob Van Dam explained chris benoit didnt commit those murders as "an evil demon" could have entered his body
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Post by BxB on Nov 29, 2007 11:50:20 GMT -5
May I point out that earlier in this interview Rob Van Dam explained chris benoit didnt commit those murders as "an evil demon" could have entered his body Sandman in a shoot interview said that RVD really does believe in all the spiritual stuff. So, I'm not surprised he said that.
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