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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2007 21:34:33 GMT -5
when was the last time a Heel won the Rumble?
Also what is the ratio of face vs heel wins at the RR?
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 9, 2007 21:35:39 GMT -5
Wasn't Batista kind of a tweener at the time he won the Rumble?
Otherwise it might be HBK in 1995.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Dec 9, 2007 21:40:41 GMT -5
Vince perhaps
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Post by joeman on Dec 9, 2007 21:55:13 GMT -5
Austin in 97 was heel when he won.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 9, 2007 21:55:28 GMT -5
Vince 1999. As far as the face heel ratio goes, lets look at the stats....
1988 - "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan : Face
1989 - Big John Studd - Face
1990 - Hulk Hogan - Face
1991 - Hulk Hogan - Face
1992 - Ric Flair - Heel
1993 - Yokozuna - Heel
1994 - Lex Lugar/Bret Hart - Both Faces
1995 - Shawn Michaels - Then a heel
1996 - Shawn Michaels - Then a face
1997 - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - Then a heel
1998 - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - Then a face
1999 - Vince McMahon - Heel
2000 - The Rock - Face
2001 - "Stone Cold" Steve Austin - Face
2002 - Triple H - Face
2003 - Brock Lesnar - Face
2004 - Chris Benoit - Face
2005 - Batista - Face
2006 - Rey Mysterio - Face
2007 - Undertaker - Face
Which makes the face/heel ratio an overwhelming 16-4.
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Post by joeman on Dec 9, 2007 21:57:04 GMT -5
Is the WWE ready for a Heel vs Heel match at Wrestlemania?
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 9, 2007 21:59:09 GMT -5
Is the WWE ready for a Heel vs Heel match at Wrestlemania? Depends on the heels. The thing of it is, is that the fans would eventually choose the lesser of two evils, making that person a face.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2007 22:32:11 GMT -5
lol wow harsh ratio thanks tho
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 9, 2007 22:34:39 GMT -5
lol wow harsh ratio thanks tho Probably because the safe bet as far as WM storylines go is to have face chasing the heel champ, including being triumphant at the Rumble in order to get the title shot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2007 22:39:37 GMT -5
lol wow harsh ratio thanks tho Probably because the safe bet as far as WM storylines go is to have face chasing the heel champ, including being triumphant at the Rumble in order to get the title shot. yeah but still a heel cheating to win one of the most important parts of a year and then going on to win at a ME at WM is a huge way to get a heel over
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 10, 2007 0:11:57 GMT -5
Typically, Wrestlemania is a event where a heel champion loses to a babyface challenger. The heel wins at No Way Out via dq or Dusty finish, only to lose clean to the Face at Wrestlemania in a grudge match. A gimmick match may be held at Unforgiven to settle the score in a hot feud. But Wrestlemania needs a good payoff, and that's a heel loss. If you pay 40 for a show, you better make the payoff worth it.
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Post by metylerca on Dec 10, 2007 0:20:00 GMT -5
But since it's IWC... heels must win at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Dec 10, 2007 0:29:00 GMT -5
But since it's IWC... heels must win at Wrestlemania. Unless that heel is Triple H.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2007 0:32:59 GMT -5
But since it's IWC... heels must win at Wrestlemania. thats not true... i just think it would be a great rub to get heel heat if they sabotaged one of the most looked forward to parts of WWE. He doesnt even have to win at WM i think that would be enough to get heel heat
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Post by King Rich on Dec 10, 2007 10:02:13 GMT -5
Nah I'm not having that. He was a heel who was getting cheers.
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Post by Steveweiser on Dec 10, 2007 10:06:37 GMT -5
Indeed - officially, Batista was a heel when he won in 2005. It's just that everyone knew he was about to turn face.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Dec 10, 2007 12:57:51 GMT -5
He was still HHH's stooge at the time so I'm going to agree with heel, it's just he was starting to turn at the time.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Dec 10, 2007 18:26:07 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Tweener for Batista, he wasnt fully face but he wasnt doing anything overlly heelish at the time.
So as far as im concerned 1999 was the last Heel Winner.
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