Post by RedSmile on Dec 11, 2007 19:33:31 GMT -5
Just would liek to post my own opinions and observations about the RAW XV Anniv. show
The first thing I noticed was how many "Mark out" moments there were and people racing to their keyboards in order to create a "mark out" thread. It seems to me, that all WWE has to do is have a nostalgia show once in awhile and that will satiate the majority of the usually critical.
And anyone who really thinks some of those older wrestlers need to have "one more run" is fooling themselves. Hey, I love seeing the Repo Man, and Irwin, and Million Dollar Ted just like everyone else. But most if not all of those guys are in terrible shape. Marty Jannetty included. Although, Steve Blackman hadn't aged a day. And where has Bart Gunn been hiding? he looks to be in great shape for being pretty much a ghost these past 10 years or so.
Opening segment:
Wow kind of funny, and kind of awkward. Which was the point I suppose. The Booger is half the size he used to be, and seeing Knuckleball dance at the end was comical. How come Brawler wasn't out there as the Brawler?
He should have gotten a cameo at least. Oh yes and it was VERY cool to see Sunny in great shape. It was also good to see The Fink. I was actually pretty apathetic about the Godfather and his Ho train
Ladder Match, Carlito vs Jeff Hardy:
Another solid match by Jeff Hardy which isn;t unusual. But a solid match from Carlito? Thats a good sign. Maybe, the guy has refound "the passion" Because the guy has shown in the past, that he has talent, he just has to care to show it. I particularly liked the Springboard-from-the-apron-into-the-powerbomb-off-the-ladder-spot
Good match by both competitors.
HBK interview:
Ha. he couldn't remember that he wrestled Max Moon on the first RAW? Tsk Tsk. Shawn has an old man's memory. Its also semi-reassuring to see Marty Jannetty out of prison.....
Santino vs RVD!!
Now here is a nice surprise. Getting to see RVD come out and accept Santino's little challenge. Hope none of you guys blinked, cuz it was over in 25 seconds.
Evolution Reunion/Rated RKO Reunion/Six man tag match.
In hindsight, you'd almost believe that Evolution was one of the greatest stables since the Four Horsemen. Producing several world chamionship reigns and assorted midcard and tag title reigns also, BUT......If you actually watched those days, they weren't as "epic" as they would have you believe. Flair was a glorified lackey, Batista was getting injured over and over, and HHH seemed to hog the attention. Evolution really wasn't that good of a good stable, it was HHH and a supporting cast. You will also remember Randy's first title win and subsequent and ill fated face turn....in hindsight you might think it a better idea for Orton to take over evolution and have the boys kick HHH out. Just a thought or two...
Oh yeah the match....well it was meh....there was no real "Oh awesome" feeling in seeing Evolution tag together again.
Edge seems to be at the top of his game, actually getting cheers upon his entrance. Makes me wonder if he is eventually headed for a face turn on months to come...
Umaga is getting watered down by the match, he is turning into the monster that gets beat to show how much "heart" a babyface has.
Backstage:
Umm..yeah I am one of the many, it seems, not to have recognized Molly right away. Shame on me. Shame on us.
Hornswoggle/Khali/Hulkster
Its always cool to hear "Real American" I don't think that can ever get old. But Hulk looks great for being what, almost 60? If I look half that good when I am that age, I know Im doing ok.
Still the first block was kind of screwed up, but that didnt seem to matter one bit. Its a shame Hogan isn't fit enough to pull off a bodyslam, but Whatchya gonna do when old age catches up to you?
Not a bad segment, Hogan showed some genuine humility and gratitude, it seemed at the end. Even teased a Savage appearance.
Battle Royal:
Ooooh. So many of these guys are so out of shape its not even funny. Yeah Blackman looked good, as did Scotty 2 Hotty and Bart Gunn. But Neidhardt sported an enormous beer gut, The Goon looked hideously out of shape, even Al Snow and Repo Man all looked old.
Bischoff/Y2J
Well they sure like to make Eric out to be the bad guy, don't they? I half expected Paul Heyman to show up to get into a screaming match with Bischoff.
Y2J is gold once again on the mike.
Jillian/Trish/Lita
What a cool segment. Thats all there is to say about that one. I def like Jillian getting beatdown with that headset on, thats a pretty good touch.
Kane/Lita
Nice segment. Not too often we get to see Kane's funny side. (But I do remember the Kanenites!!!)
Kennedy/Jannetty/DX "reunion"
Ehhh. Jannetty had rust all over him, and shows that he is 45 years old. Although it was cool to see the Rocker Dropper for the first time in a looong time.
The DX reunion was very empty feeling. You had not even half of the stable there and it was the 12th (or so) time Trips had been down to the ring.
Final Segment:
It was very predictable. But it was still cool. I think the audience was salivating for the Rock to appear, you could almost feel the tension ready to loosen if his music hit. and personally I would have liked to see a Bret appearance at the end also.
Summary/Other Random thoughts:
I really liked RAW tonight, but as it has been widely observed among the masses here the live crowd must not have been in pro wrestling all that long. They really didn't seen to recognize some of those guys out there. Like Dibiase? Jeez you should know that guy for crying out loud!
I was surprised there wasn't a tribute of sorts for those wrestlers who were apart of RAW's history, but are no longer living. Like Eddie, Owen, Bulldog, Crash, etc....
It really was a shame that the Rock wasn't there. He was a HUGE part of RAW's history and his absence was glaring.
The first thing I noticed was how many "Mark out" moments there were and people racing to their keyboards in order to create a "mark out" thread. It seems to me, that all WWE has to do is have a nostalgia show once in awhile and that will satiate the majority of the usually critical.
And anyone who really thinks some of those older wrestlers need to have "one more run" is fooling themselves. Hey, I love seeing the Repo Man, and Irwin, and Million Dollar Ted just like everyone else. But most if not all of those guys are in terrible shape. Marty Jannetty included. Although, Steve Blackman hadn't aged a day. And where has Bart Gunn been hiding? he looks to be in great shape for being pretty much a ghost these past 10 years or so.
Opening segment:
Wow kind of funny, and kind of awkward. Which was the point I suppose. The Booger is half the size he used to be, and seeing Knuckleball dance at the end was comical. How come Brawler wasn't out there as the Brawler?
He should have gotten a cameo at least. Oh yes and it was VERY cool to see Sunny in great shape. It was also good to see The Fink. I was actually pretty apathetic about the Godfather and his Ho trainLadder Match, Carlito vs Jeff Hardy:
Another solid match by Jeff Hardy which isn;t unusual. But a solid match from Carlito? Thats a good sign. Maybe, the guy has refound "the passion" Because the guy has shown in the past, that he has talent, he just has to care to show it. I particularly liked the Springboard-from-the-apron-into-the-powerbomb-off-the-ladder-spot
Good match by both competitors.
HBK interview:
Ha. he couldn't remember that he wrestled Max Moon on the first RAW? Tsk Tsk. Shawn has an old man's memory. Its also semi-reassuring to see Marty Jannetty out of prison.....
Santino vs RVD!!
Now here is a nice surprise. Getting to see RVD come out and accept Santino's little challenge. Hope none of you guys blinked, cuz it was over in 25 seconds.
Evolution Reunion/Rated RKO Reunion/Six man tag match.
In hindsight, you'd almost believe that Evolution was one of the greatest stables since the Four Horsemen. Producing several world chamionship reigns and assorted midcard and tag title reigns also, BUT......If you actually watched those days, they weren't as "epic" as they would have you believe. Flair was a glorified lackey, Batista was getting injured over and over, and HHH seemed to hog the attention. Evolution really wasn't that good of a good stable, it was HHH and a supporting cast. You will also remember Randy's first title win and subsequent and ill fated face turn....in hindsight you might think it a better idea for Orton to take over evolution and have the boys kick HHH out. Just a thought or two...
Oh yeah the match....well it was meh....there was no real "Oh awesome" feeling in seeing Evolution tag together again.
Edge seems to be at the top of his game, actually getting cheers upon his entrance. Makes me wonder if he is eventually headed for a face turn on months to come...
Umaga is getting watered down by the match, he is turning into the monster that gets beat to show how much "heart" a babyface has.
Backstage:
Umm..yeah I am one of the many, it seems, not to have recognized Molly right away. Shame on me. Shame on us.
Hornswoggle/Khali/Hulkster
Its always cool to hear "Real American" I don't think that can ever get old. But Hulk looks great for being what, almost 60? If I look half that good when I am that age, I know Im doing ok.
Still the first block was kind of screwed up, but that didnt seem to matter one bit. Its a shame Hogan isn't fit enough to pull off a bodyslam, but Whatchya gonna do when old age catches up to you?
Not a bad segment, Hogan showed some genuine humility and gratitude, it seemed at the end. Even teased a Savage appearance.
Battle Royal:
Ooooh. So many of these guys are so out of shape its not even funny. Yeah Blackman looked good, as did Scotty 2 Hotty and Bart Gunn. But Neidhardt sported an enormous beer gut, The Goon looked hideously out of shape, even Al Snow and Repo Man all looked old.
Bischoff/Y2J
Well they sure like to make Eric out to be the bad guy, don't they? I half expected Paul Heyman to show up to get into a screaming match with Bischoff.
Y2J is gold once again on the mike.
Jillian/Trish/Lita
What a cool segment. Thats all there is to say about that one. I def like Jillian getting beatdown with that headset on, thats a pretty good touch.
Kane/Lita
Nice segment. Not too often we get to see Kane's funny side. (But I do remember the Kanenites!!!)
Kennedy/Jannetty/DX "reunion"
Ehhh. Jannetty had rust all over him, and shows that he is 45 years old. Although it was cool to see the Rocker Dropper for the first time in a looong time.
The DX reunion was very empty feeling. You had not even half of the stable there and it was the 12th (or so) time Trips had been down to the ring.
Final Segment:
It was very predictable. But it was still cool. I think the audience was salivating for the Rock to appear, you could almost feel the tension ready to loosen if his music hit. and personally I would have liked to see a Bret appearance at the end also.
Summary/Other Random thoughts:
I really liked RAW tonight, but as it has been widely observed among the masses here the live crowd must not have been in pro wrestling all that long. They really didn't seen to recognize some of those guys out there. Like Dibiase?
Jeez you should know that guy for crying out loud!I was surprised there wasn't a tribute of sorts for those wrestlers who were apart of RAW's history, but are no longer living. Like Eddie, Owen, Bulldog, Crash, etc....
It really was a shame that the Rock wasn't there. He was a HUGE part of RAW's history and his absence was glaring.
