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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 14:26:04 GMT -5
This isn't even a question to me and it's weird personally this is 3 pages.
It's Mox. It always is Mox. He feels like a guy whose able to do more and have the kind of matches he wants to have. In terms of best Dean Ambrose matches, I only really remember Ambrose/Seth from Summerslam 2014, which is criminally underrated. Mox matches? Most of the Omega matches, the Blood and Gut matches, the Anarchy in the Arena matches, against Kingston, Danielson, Yuta, I can carry on.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 14:16:10 GMT -5
"Hey everyone, look, Dwayne Johnson's on our Board of Directors! We even said he could make money from "The Rock" now!
WealsogotaguyontheboardwhorunsanAIsoftwarecompany but Dwayne Johnson! The Rock! Layeth the Smackdown and all that!"
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 14:09:27 GMT -5
Is Riverdale still going? Judgment Day need to turn up and beat up Jughead. Puts on Fedora and gets thicker glassesUm, Actually, Riverdale was a WB production that Netflix acquired as an "Original" internationally and it mostly aired on CW so it would have been impossible to do any sort of show crossover without approval from Warner Bros bigwigs. As an aside, that weird period where Netflix would call anything an "Original" still bothers me. Just because you had The Good Place internationally does not mean it's your Original show, Netflix!
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 13:38:28 GMT -5
I honestly don't think this will bring the audience Netflix expects. Most people on here (the hardcores of the market) don't even like watching 3 hours of RAW when its on free TV. The first thing to remember is that it wasn't on Free TV, it was on Cable which you have to get a certain package for. The other being that this deal basically makes Raw easier to access for a lot of people where it's being walled up by paid subscriptions like Canada, UK and Ireland etc because you only need one subscription; Netflix. And even with how numbers have been dropping, Netflix is dominating the market by about 100m to its closest competitor (Disney+, for the record) so more than likely, you're a rock's throw away from someone with a Netflix subscription. And if the Network content ends up on Netflix, you're basically paying for not just WWE but the HBO/Warner Bros deals, the first airing of Sony movies like Across The Spider-Verse, the A24 deal etc. A lot of that stuff isn't showing up in many other places internationally so you're giving people a reason to watch later without making them feel like you're missing the first airing of stuff. Essentially, the deals Netflix are making are taking advantage of other slowdowns in the market but also giving itself a cushion in case stuff does bottom out by having stuff prepared for people to stick around with.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 13:31:39 GMT -5
They did well enough on Tuesdays before so I get it. Pair it up with a new season of Chucky and it should work out well to be honest.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 12:00:52 GMT -5
Basically, any place that doesn’t already have a TV/Network deal in place will likely be able to access stuff on Netflix. It’s not as big a list with places like France and Germany signing deals last year but it has the potential to be a substantial amount in the next while. I see. It sounded from the wording that the Network was being wound up in the UK for example as the suggestion was SD/NXT and PLEs are to be on Netflix as well. There’s a lot of questions that need to be answered that likely won’t right now because of the victory lap but some of it is drawing the dots (BT/TNT Sports signed the UK and Ireland WWE deal in 2019, which means they aren’t renewing it when it expires, for example)
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:55:39 GMT -5
Didn't read all the thread. But I've read that as outside the US, WWE will pretty much have their entire output, TV included will be in Netflix. Basically, any place that doesn’t already have a TV/Network deal in place will likely be able to access stuff on Netflix. It’s not as big a list with places like France and Germany signing deals last year but it has the potential to be a substantial amount in the next while.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:47:13 GMT -5
Considering they’re way more interested in Warner Bros Discovery, allegedly, that doesn’t seem likely. Ok then they'll buy that one... Paramount will probably end up buying another one And Amazon etc Eventually all of these services are going to get paired down, there's to many. Paramount is in the same spot as Disney and WBD in how they’re not making as much as they should and trying different ways to make money so, again, it’ll have to be a different way.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:44:16 GMT -5
Guessing either Netflix has a deal to just have it outright or a bidding war between NBC and Netflix starts. I think eventually NBC/Comcast will buy Netflix. Considering they’re way more interested in Warner Bros Discovery, allegedly, that doesn’t seem likely.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:38:02 GMT -5
Since the Peacock deal is until 2026, I wonder what they'll do about the RAW archives there. Guessing either Netflix has a deal to just have it outright or a bidding war between NBC and Netflix starts.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:36:59 GMT -5
…God, I hope Rhodes wins the Rumble, I can’t deal with much more of this “Will they/won’t they” shit. I just said the thing to make you doubt it’ll happen at all, though. 😄 Ok, never mind then!
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:34:30 GMT -5
They'll lose some viewers not everyone has Netflix or is gonna pay 20 bucks a month to watch WWE, especially kids. I think the real question here, is will they use all the TV money bumps to pay talent or will they use it to pump their stock prices.. Haven't they been handing out big extensions already? Cody, Bayley, and Charlotte got the 💰 recently and I imagine more folks will get theirs as well Even with those extensions, calling them big feels sort of generous with some of the numbers floating around. Like, Charlotte being paid the same yearly as a second string quarterback in the NFL and it being called the biggest for a women’s wrestler feels like something that shouldn’t be the case with the money floating around now.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:30:47 GMT -5
The NFL thing with ESPN is just a portion of ownership from what reports are saying. To Disney, ESPN’s one of the only things turning a profit so there’s zero chance they want to give it up. Spin it off, maybe. Really shows how things can change given when ESPN was hemorrhaging money and whoever was CEO at the time was openly saying they were looking into selling it. Yeah, I also remember that time which was why when I heard about it, I was like “Wait, how did THAT happen?!”
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:16:00 GMT -5
Paying talent more, pfft. That’s a good one. They have too many decent board of directors to substantially pay! That's entirely what people miss, being owned by endeavor means they are going to be ran like any other American fortune 500. Which literally means getting the most while paying the least, stock buybacks, paying the board assinine amounts of money to not do anything. Caring more about shareholder value than anything else... Companies like this could give 2 f***s about talent if they think the WWE machine can run with guys making half the money they'll do it that way to share more profit. This is a different discussion entirely but just want to say, agree completely with all of that. It’s a lot of the reason why the games industry is where it is and the only people paying are the developers just following mandates.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 11:07:27 GMT -5
They'll lose some viewers not everyone has Netflix or is gonna pay 20 bucks a month to watch WWE, especially kids. I think the real question here, is will they use all the TV money bumps to pay talent or will they use it to pump their stock prices.. Paying talent more, pfft. That’s a good one. They have too many decent board of directors to substantially pay!
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 10:58:58 GMT -5
The NFL thing with ESPN is just a portion of ownership from what reports are saying. To Disney, ESPN’s one of the only things turning a profit so there’s zero chance they want to give it up. Spin it off, maybe. Well yeah but that is still NFL ownership. I guess I'm just saying that the NFL has a one tv network, soon to be part of another, a radio channel, and games damn near (and soon to be every if they get their way) day of the week. You can't not complete against them at this point. Then you have owners like Kronke who have teams across multiple leagues that run at the same times the NFL and can't stop them from running against NFL games, thigh that rarely happens. That’s fair. Just more trying to tide down someone from saying “THE NFL WILL OWN ESPN AS A WHOLE?!” because someone would. 😋
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 10:54:23 GMT -5
Interesting, Fightful is saying that, right now, nothing’s been decided about where Raw will air from October to January. If USA’s planning to get the NBA rights, it could have Mondays at the end of October booked for potential time slots since that’s when the season starts.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 10:41:47 GMT -5
Will say, the thing that struck down the Fox deal was basically being sold a bill of goods and not getting what they were promised. The difference is that USA knows what WWE content gives them, CW’s looking for anything and Netflix probably knows that people will either watch WWE live or on demand and if some of the Network/PLE content comes over first day internationally, there’s a reason for people to keep using it. Pretty much this, I had been saying for a few years (and got shot down by some for it) that there had clearly been issues in the WWE/Fox relationship shortly after Smackdown started... ironically a big part of that was not getting NXT for FS1. In hindsight, even if nobody really said it outloud, reading articles and the stuff that did come out made it seem like Fox was ready to be done with WWE fairly early in the deal Yeah, if you’re a channel that says in statements they want to be THE place to watch WWE and the first major thing the company does is pass you over for a show that could have helped build something on your sports channel all to try and chase some dumb ratings war, I’d be questioning what the stakes in our relationship was. And that’s before not getting any of the 4m viewers a week they wanted. EDIT: The deal, mind you, that took some of the luster off the fact they went out of their way to get CM Punk to their panel show, something that would have been matched with NXT, and then being ignored when you basically told the company they’d pay for CM Punk to wrestle…yeah, man, WWE made out like bandits with that.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 10:39:25 GMT -5
I get the NFL having Monday Night Football and TK being part of the NFL family but at the same time, there are other owners who also own properties that regularly compete against NFL programming throughout the year. The President of the New England Patriots (Jonathan Kraft) is literally on the TKO Board of Directors. And as the NFL expands programming across every day legally possible, I don't think they can expect their owners to never have any financial stake in properties that may compete in the same time slot. Yeah, I can't find anything that says NFL owners can't run a show against the NFL. I honestly think it is something people are speculating is correct without actually knowing. Hell the NFL owns a TV network and is buying ESPN reportedly, so saying you can't run against them at this point is impossible. The NFL thing with ESPN is just a portion of ownership from what reports are saying. To Disney, ESPN’s one of the only things turning a profit so there’s zero chance they want to give it up. Spin it off, maybe.
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Post by eJm on Jan 23, 2024 10:31:11 GMT -5
Yeah I can't say I'm thrilled. I haven't had an account in years and not willing to just buy in again for WWE. Its a shame but I'll follow on Smackdown, NXT and YouTube. Not a major loss though because Raw hasn't been an easy watch for me between time, work, and just concentration in years. I dozed off an hour into last night from being up since 4:30am for work. Good for WWE though, they are understanding how this game is played and its gonna make money. The long term? Who knows, the industry is radically different looking than 5 years ago and here we thought the Fox deal was major, these three are next level, and we are a far cry from the days of Spike TV. Will say, the thing that struck down the Fox deal was basically being sold a bill of goods and not getting what they were promised. The difference is that USA knows what WWE content gives them, CW’s looking for anything and Netflix probably knows that people will either watch WWE live or on demand and if some of the Network/PLE content comes over first day internationally, there’s a reason for people to keep using it.
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