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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 20:31:27 GMT -5
If you think Punk can't cut a good promo that's not about drugs then you clearly have a bias against the guy, because he's a great talker in general. If he's handed a mic and has a point to make, he's fantastic. Look at his promo against Batista last year at the Bash. Drugs or alcohol were never brought into the equation. Also, Punk is leaps and bounds better on the mic than Undertaker, Batista, and Randy Orton. They're never taken out of the main event due to lack of decent promos. Yeah, Thats it. If anyone thinks punks promos aren't the greatest thing in the world, It has to be a bias and not an honest opinion. I don't like him, But that has nothing to do with I think his promos are 1 dimensional. Maybe you think all of punks promos are great because your a punk fan? That has to be it. See what I did there? His drug promos against Hardy was done by other wrstlers as well. How is his promos going so far after the Hardy fued? His Hardy promos were overated anyway. So when HHH, Orton, Taker hate threads or post pop up, Is it peoples opinion on the matter or bias on said wrestlers? I am not the biggest CM Punk fan ever, but even I think its pretty obvious that his promos are better than Orton, Batista, or Taker [current version]. I dont even see how that is debatable. Orton is flat and boring on the mic and just sounds like he is reading off a script. Batista has never been known for his promos. Taker barely talks and when he does its the same old basic stuff. At least Punk has some sort of dimension and emotion in his promos. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 20:27:51 GMT -5
An All-heel triple threat match. That would work..........not. I am pretty sure he more meant that Punk should be in the Triple Threat instead of Undertaker, and they could book the other participants accordingly. Anyway, its not like it would be the first all heel wrestling match ever on PPV and they could have easily modified the feud by having either Punk or Show act more facelike. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 19:52:31 GMT -5
I think people are a bit too hard on Neal. We haven't really seen anything from him yet. He was suppose to be wearing workout clothes and look like a rookie. I agree. I mean, he has sucked so far, but he was supposed to suck. He also has only been wrestling for two years. If he had been wrestling since 2002 or something I could understand the hate, but the guy has barely started so I will wait to see how he improves before judging. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 19:48:42 GMT -5
Where are we getting that she is really full of herself again?
Because she said her feud with Mickie was one of the best ever? Something Cena says on the air about every feud he is in?
Or because she says her entrance is historic?
She didn't come off any more egotistical than the average wrestler here to me. She even gave props to other divas and wrestlers.
*shrug*
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:42:56 GMT -5
Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness. Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation. Wellness is a transparent joke at this point. Oh, well that's fine. I just wanted to avoid another pot debate, in order for the thread to not de-evolve. Understandable, I wasn't trying to turn it into a pot debate, more a debate on why one guy can go to rehab and be covered in storyline for being addicted to a drug and the other guy eventually gets released because he does some other drug regularly. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:40:00 GMT -5
It's not the telling that is the problem here, it's the manner in which Schattenjager implies he would do it, i.e revel in making fun of a person's misconception with the hope of wrecking their enjoyment. There is a difference between that and letting someone in danger of looking a bit daft down gently. Yeah, I can see that point. Although in fairness to him, if you met a 30 year old that still believed in Santa Claus, you KNOW you would think they were an idiot. As someone who figured it out as a kid [my dad just confirmed my suspicions] I cant see someone three times my age at the time still thinking it was real. Especially since I figured this out in the 80s when the business was still somewhat protected. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:34:00 GMT -5
I totally ruin it if I get the chance. You're a real winner. No I don't I actually let people enjoy the show they want to watch and the people they want to see. If I met a grown adult? I would definitely let them know its fake. Why? Because they must be an obvious idiot to think its real. Come on, man. If you meet a twenty year old adult who thinks its real and dont point out to them the obvious truth, I would say there is something wrong with YOU, not them. My dad let me know it was fake when I was a kid, and I wouldn't call him a bitter smark for that. I guess the majority of this board would though. Guess I should hate my dad. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:24:46 GMT -5
That is like saying Joe DiMaggio shouldn't be on a short list of the greatest baseball players ever because most modern fans know nothing about him. There's a big difference there - baseball's stats matter for something. Wrestling a lot of it has to do with the changing of the times, and most of what Sammartino did in his day is lost to live events and a few low-quality tapes. He definitely did carry the company on his shoulders, but today there is nothing to judge him on. You cant judge the man based on selling the Garden out 45 times in an era of much less promotion? Holding the Title for 11 years? Being the blueprint for Hulk Hogan? Come on. You can look at it from a kayfabe standard or a drawing standard, Bruno still wins. Big Shows title reign drew nothing. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:18:24 GMT -5
I'll say Show, on the basis most of these people suck or had uneventful reigns (or in Sammartino's case is completely alien to the modern audience), and his reign was actually pretty damn good. That is like saying Joe DiMaggio shouldn't be on a short list of the greatest baseball players ever because most modern fans know nothing about him. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:14:28 GMT -5
So much for the legitimacy of that. Also pokes holes in opinions like BRIAN KENDRICK SMOKED WEED SO HE DIDNT DESERVE A PUSH! C'mon man, let's not start that up again. Nah, if anything I would just say it adds legitimacy to the idea that WWE protects its moneymakers in regards to Wellness. Not that the way Reys Wellness violation went down in September didn't already add to it. His punishment was a Tag Team title match on PPV after a vacation. Wellness is a transparent joke at this point. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:11:18 GMT -5
Kozlov basically had Tazs gimmick and failed to get over...and he is a BIG, mean looking guy who looked to fit the gimmick much more.
See Survivor Series 2008. No reaction to his match and dropped far down the card soon after.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 18:00:57 GMT -5
Yeah okay they should have stayed with this look. Who are you to doubt those marketing wizards in Stamford? |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 17:53:53 GMT -5
The wigs eliminated!
*after marking out for the Cat for a minute straight, he gets eliminated*
Eh, enough with the dancing Im sick of it.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 17:46:44 GMT -5
Clearly Sammartino, this should not even be a competition.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 17:41:22 GMT -5
So he was in rehab while wrestling and Wellness didn't catch it? So much for the legitimacy of that. Also pokes holes in opinions like BRIAN KENDRICK SMOKED WEED SO HE DIDNT DESERVE A PUSH! Edit: Nevermind, I read the blurb that it was during his time off during that Kane storyline. That makes it even worse IMO, since WWE put something on air to cover it up. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 16:22:20 GMT -5
I dont know why WWE bothered with this feud, considering they tried it before and it just did not work, even using Lita as an extra element to make it interesting.
Matt, beyond his V1 character could never be a good heel. If they tried it during the V1 era it probably could have worked but that never happened. In the end, the whole thing was completely pointless outside of producing a few good matches.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 15:35:02 GMT -5
ok...."a Red Hot mouthpiece that's relevent to today" for Sheamus' manager and everyone immediately jumps to Heyman? I see JR practically begging to get Piper as "The Ginger Giant's" manager. I think people think Heyman immediately since: 1. He has loads of managerial experience. 2. Hes up there with guys like Cornette and Piper as one of the best talkers around who could still handle the job. 3. He was an integral part of getting Lesnar as over as he was. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 15:31:27 GMT -5
Ratings this year have been better than 2006 & 2007, but the buyrates are worse. Go figure. Good job they did the number crunching right to deal with this financial issue. I suppose as long as they manage to maintain a steady level of profitability, they arent so much concerned with buyrates. TNA follows a similar model. Of course, if the numbers keep dropping it is going to eventually reach a point where they cant make up for it in other areas...and they obviously noticed because they tried to change up their PPV model with the themed PPVs and name changes. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 13:19:09 GMT -5
I wonder how SS 2008 compares with 2007---meaning was '08 MUCH higher than '07 because people were excited about Undertaker/Edge "Hell in A Cell" (which was the match I remember really looking forward to in 2008) and if 2009 was more of a regression to the mean. I don't know how many people usually buy SummerSlam. 2007 had 537,000 buys. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 5, 2009 13:09:41 GMT -5
Im one of these people that believe that the fan reaction might not be entirely on Regal's side. I remember on one of the UK tours, it was Christian who perhaps got one of the best reaction out of the crowd during the tour a few years back. Of course Regal is likely to have his vocal supporters, but I think the peeps will also have a sizeable voice next week as well. Would I like to see Regal win it in England? Of course I would. I want to see Regal as a champ who keeps setting up road blocks to challengers, to prevent them getting near him. Plus I think the guy deserves some reward for his work over the years. I admit he blew it himself last year, but now looks to be the time to let him run with the ECW ball for a little before passing it to someone else. Christian fought Batista in England on RAW in 2005, right after Batista won the title at WM 21, and he got cheered over him. Batista got booed. This is when Batista was at his most over and Christian was still a sneaky heel. I remember people on here then making excuses about it and saying one crowd cheering Cristian doesnt mean he would ever be over as a face and could never be a main eventer. ;D |
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