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Post by Ragnal on May 19, 2017 20:06:53 GMT -5
Honestly? You can kind of see shades of that with the new 'rockstar' look Christian had following his Intercontinental title win. Would definitely explain the sudden change following that PPV.
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Post by Ragnal on Apr 7, 2017 19:57:37 GMT -5
Even more frustrating, VKM were the FACES of this whole crap. After this Christy went on to manage a multitude of tag teams to face off against them.
Like it's really a wonder after this TNA managed to even get the KO division off the ground.
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 18, 2017 21:12:28 GMT -5
I honestly think regarding how they changed the story and how quick they were to offer a settlement, TNA doesn't even have knees to stand on for this. They don't. This is pretty much extortion - the equivalent of those debt companies that buy a credit card bill you owed 17 years ago, call you at 8am and tell you that they're going to serve you with papers and possibly have you arrested if you don't pay the amount right now. Also,WWE never stopped people from using the gimmick, just the ring names, catchphrases and nicknames Not true. They've put an end to several such cases - Ray Traylor as a cop in WCW for one. I believe WCW got a C&D when they tried to turn Brother Bruti into the Clipmaster as well. They *usually* don't, but there have been times they put an outright end to a former employee's use of a WWE-owned gimmick. Hell, they tried it with Hall and Nash, saying they were acting too similar to their WWF characters. Child endangerment might be a countersuit by Anthem. Anthem couldn't sue for that. The state could, but not Anthem. And TNA/Impact's approval of the kid's use and airing it would have them in trouble as well, should something like that occur. I'm assuming Reby knows this too, seeing as she brought it up. TNA never made sure things were okay in that regard, but being fair here I don't think Matt would put his child in such grave danger...as nutso as he may get. Still. TNA might have wanted to check on that before telling the Hardys "Do what you want, we don't care as long as it makes us moolah".
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 17, 2017 21:42:42 GMT -5
I've missed something, haven't I. Bootleg Worker Ant? Sangriento. the Mexican Luchador who everyone has always heard of and is most certainly a big deal in Mexico... and is not Amazing Red in a mask. Yeah, I see it now. Definitely the Antz to Colony's A Bug's Life.
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 17, 2017 10:37:28 GMT -5
I just assume they already had the suit or something and figure they may as well use it, rather than have another costume made. They also have the costume for that bootleg Worker Ant. That would had been slightly better than returning back to Suicide. I've missed something, haven't I. Bootleg Worker Ant?
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 16, 2017 19:12:59 GMT -5
So am I the only one a little worried that now that Helms got the titles back they might release him since without the Hardys they might not find much use for them? Or am I utterly paranoid?
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 15, 2017 14:01:13 GMT -5
For a group of wrestlers that are travelling and working over 300 days of the year they sure do seem to find enough time to make some of this stuff.
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 13, 2017 20:26:30 GMT -5
Now that I think on it a bit, the fact they're saying "Well other people helped come up with it too" now says that they likely don't have the clause in there that they initially cited to give them ownership over it, because they're not saying "anything the Hardys made for our show is ours", which is the legal leg they were trying to stand on, but now "Our people made it". Which is a really big sign they don't have a case here but they're still trying to scare and extort everyone to get a cut of the Hardys' money. Except even THEIR people that they talk about aren't even in the company anymore. So what leg would they stand on there?
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 1, 2017 10:35:22 GMT -5
I still feel like the negotiations were this simple. "We want Christian for a night for Ric Flair?" "Really? You guys don't want John Cena or CM Punk or...okay, whatever."
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Post by Ragnal on Jan 6, 2017 23:23:48 GMT -5
That's one way to show who's the boss now.
Just...I'll give TNA credit. They weren't so obnoxious to have Panda Energy logos all across the Impact Zone. This? Does Anthem do this to their Fight network? Or whatever other properties they hold onto?
EDIT: Oh, and for any of you guys that have an account on Taimapedia, because I'm too lazy to make one for myself, the LOLTNA page is back up.
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Post by Ragnal on Dec 28, 2016 18:04:11 GMT -5
The worst champion is easily Eric Young. He was a comedy jobber that TNA decided to give the title too. I have no idea why. He wasn't over at all, and was never going to draw. All of his wins were met with silence. Much as it is I don't like Young, I'm not going to say the dude was never over in that company. He had his share of fans, and the fact he got a good reaction in NXT (Or was even looked at by WWE) says he still has some value to him, even if it's not a big role. Young was a good cowardly character in Team Canada, and Don't Fire Eric worked for a while, but then you get into the long feud with Roode that was trying to be serious after months of being comedy fodder, the Super Eric stuff, and losing two titles in less than a few minutes due to silly reasons one of which ties back to the previous stupid, and it hurt Eric's stock rather heavily. THEN we get into Eric Young's heel turn, which I remember was teased in a Jarrett feud, and then after that he turns on his TNA team and joins World Elite as the leader! I could understand Young joining and giving WE some Canadian flare (since it was another instance of 'well they have something in common so make them a team' logic that also brought Kongtourage to the fold), and build him back up as serious, but he's immediately become the leader all of a sudden AND wins the Legends belt and reclaims it the Global title, and then post-Hogan arrival all that's undone by giving him a concussion! So the idea of taking Young seriously in TNA ever again ceased to exist. Not Young's fault, but I put that blame solely on TNA for ruining him and pushing him around everywhere only to eventually just go back to 'comedy'. I can at least give the guy credit, he tries to do what he can with the stupidity he's given, even if it doesn't work and becomes painful to sit through.
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Post by Ragnal on Dec 22, 2016 18:26:45 GMT -5
Anytime Jarrett held to to prove he was a main eventer. Point in case beating an over Raven for the belt on same random Canadian house show. I never got that Why have a championship change in a nothing Indy show instead of your own program? Guess tna just tna's itself Responding to this before I get through the rest of the thread: Because Jarrett wanted to be champion again the second they got onto Spike TV, and that was the only way they could do it. Still no payoff following that, still pisses me off.
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Post by Ragnal on Nov 29, 2016 21:43:08 GMT -5
I remember ordering this show. I remember, for some odd reason, my friend and I thought it was 'just okay'. I feel like we very heavily misjudged that entire show. The wrestling was decent to subpar, yes, but many of the finishes just plain out sucked, so I don't know WHAT we were thinking!
Even worse/better I never bothered with that free access to TNA's on demand service. Not like I needed it when I could find something better worth my time.
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Post by Ragnal on Nov 5, 2016 19:36:33 GMT -5
When I think of TNA's existence I think of two things: Vince firing Jarrett on air and that PPV numbers guy fudging the buyrates back when the weekly show was on PPV.
First, Jarrett's firing. Obviously there's history as to why Vince didn't want him back on his roster, but imagine how things could have gone if JJ had been allowed to stick around in WWE even if it was to be in DDP's place for that Undertaker feud in the midst of the Invasion?
Second, that guy fudging the numbers and saying to Jeff the buyrates were going up? It caused Jarrett to put more money into the shows, and when he found out he was losing money because the buys weren't actually going up, plus one of his investors had to pull out because of an Enron-esque situation, I want to say? That made Dixie beg her daddy to invest fully into TNA, and well, here we are...
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Post by Ragnal on Nov 4, 2016 14:59:01 GMT -5
So...Anthem says they own/fund TNA, and after Billy points out he hasn't been paid yet, they backpedal? Am I reading this right? Essentially, they're basically trying to say they own it without actually saying they own it, because if they do they owe him 50% more. Ah, I see, and it's not like this company that is run by a guy with millions, if not billions, can't afford to just fork over an extra million dollars. ...wait...
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Post by Ragnal on Nov 4, 2016 14:56:40 GMT -5
So...Anthem says they own/fund TNA, and after Billy points out he hasn't been paid yet, they backpedal?
Am I reading this right?
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Post by Ragnal on Nov 1, 2016 14:03:01 GMT -5
Man, whoever runs the Twitter page (Josh, I imagine) can't take a joke. It's Josh and no he can't. I can vouch for that, his buttons are way too easy to push. As for TNA itself...what to say at this point? I'm annoyed the company is still able to continue, and even if there's new owners or new management...Dixie gets what she wants, to keep her job as president of the company. With all this news out there now, why? Why would you give her the one job she can't do?
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Post by Ragnal on Oct 30, 2016 17:39:12 GMT -5
Just a few I can think of:
-Undertaker and Kane are not real life brothers -Likewise neither are Edge and Christian, but they were pushed as brothers until the middle of the brand split where they became close friends -No, Jim Hellwig did not die and get replaced by a Von Erich
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Post by Ragnal on Oct 28, 2016 9:30:10 GMT -5
I liked him alright as JBL's Secretary of State or whatever. I mean, he was pretty bland then, but dude had some talent. Then Benoit starting microwave kickin his ass, and while that was funny, it ruined any credibility for Jordan. I feel like that was the point. A month prior at GAB '05 Jordan had a long match with Benoit and beat him cleanly. NOBODY bought it, and this was after months of Orlando Jordan only wrestling on Velocity while on Smackdown he just held a shiny belt while acting as Jibbles' lackey. The only notable title defense I can think of him having prior to that was Judgement Day against...Heidenreich. So yeah, I buy WWE going, "People aren't liking Orlando Jordan? Even after letting him beat one of our best wrestlers? Okay, fine. They win this one. Just give Benoit the strap and a thirty second match. Not like Orlando's getting any higher on the card anyway".
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Post by Ragnal on Oct 12, 2016 19:46:10 GMT -5
Help my memory - wasn't even that at the tail end of it, after they had already done a huge build-up to Raven taking the title only for them to not have him win, and then gave him the short run a month or two after, when things had already peaked? Yeah, he had that undefeated run that seemed to be leading to the conclusion of that ''Raven's destiny'' storyline only to end up losing the title match in the end. Then there was some time in between before the KOTM match happened he actually won the belt and the destiny thing seemed to be back on until a short while later the belt was back in Jarrett's hands. 2+ years in the making it was and the blow-off was a load of rubbish. The amusing thing is you look at the timeline of events and how it coincided with leaving Fox Sports (I think JJ feuded with AJ, then AJ won the belt before KOTM, and Raven won it and held it over that summer of online-exclusive Impacts) and when they moved to Spike (JJ won the title off Raven in a random BCW indy show in Canada that featured AMW turning heel, which was dubbed as "The Guitar Shot Heard Round The World", AND it happened a WEEK before the Spike premiere), and you can tell JJ wanted to be the champ so badly when they made that move to national viewing, Saturday night graveyard shift be damned! The aftermath where Raven 'feuds' with Zbysko for another shot at the title still pisses me off to this day.
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