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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 7, 2023 19:56:29 GMT -5
Welp, there's a pretty loud pop for Hunter sooooooooooooo....
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 7, 2023 19:42:40 GMT -5
I still like Ivar. Too bad he's still stuck doing this stupid gimmick. I want to see him vs. Otis and Bronson Reed in a triple threat! I liked Hanson in ROH in 2015 so too bad he's not getting a singles run here but oh well.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 7, 2023 18:52:06 GMT -5
Not gonna lie, I can see Vince deciding to have Omos be the one.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 6, 2023 13:12:51 GMT -5
The photo they used of Hunter has him look like he's internally screaming.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 6, 2023 12:56:17 GMT -5
Wrestlelamia posted the same thing DrainBamager did and SRS called it, well, this:
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 6, 2023 12:15:16 GMT -5
But is Princess Peach still a tramp?
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 6, 2023 12:04:52 GMT -5
What? What is quoted from WON is literally speculation. Dave straight says no one knows then this DrainMaker dude (who i am guessing is tribalistic as hell) is reporting it as verbatim. This is where the confusion starts with people This is very correct. Dave's basically saying that the amount of Vince ruining everything will depend on if he's there or not but Hunter is overruled either way but this wording makes it sound even worse. Not that it could sound GOOD, mind you.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 6, 2023 1:00:01 GMT -5
Can I mod please head over to the RAW thread? It's getting uncomfortable. On that note, can we maybe have some enforcement done so that doesn't happen again on any of the wrestling boards? Wrestling discourse has gotten ultra toxic and tribalistic as of late in a lot of places and it's had too many nasty moments here too and I'm f***ing tired of it.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 5, 2023 19:27:08 GMT -5
So Louis Dangoor posted "Friday is the day" on Twitter We might need to brace ourselves for another mass cut event and then a Depressed-Down... yeah none of this is great. I think he's referring to if Vince shows up in creative or not. SRS alluded to the same thing. That if Vince travels to SD this week, things are going to be ugly. Otherwise it probably won't matter much. And in that same vein, Jimmy Van did a breakdown of the new power structure, and basically Vince signed an employment agreement that keeps him in power for a set period of time (this time isn't public, but it sure as hell isn't indefinite, but Jimmy Van thinks its around 2 years). And if that agreement is broken by Endeavor, then Vince gets a payout. However, after that period is up, Vince can be fired without getting a payday. And when the stock coverts over to NewCo shares, he loses pretty much all voting power, so he can't meddle with the board. Jimmy went on to say that the way the board shapes up is that Endeavor gets 6 slots on the new board, while WWE gets 5. So Vince would have to find someone to appeal to on the Endeavor side, which is going to be tough for him. Otherwise he runs the real risk of being booted out at any time if Endeavor thinks he is harming their bottom line, regardless of the agreement. Both SRS and Jimmy seem to agree though that Vince likely isn't going to remain around for long though, as Endeavor will likely see him as a liability sooner rather than later, especially if ratings, merch sales, and ticket sales take a hit. And if Vince gets caught up in another scandal, he'll be out within a day or two of that scandal, as it'll negatively impact not just WWE, but also Endeavor and the UFC. As I said before, though, I doubt fans are willing to wait it out now. Vince could be gone NEXT WEEK and people would not care.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 5, 2023 16:25:00 GMT -5
Oh no matter the feeling on any company, WWE is not gonna be losing money unless people stop going to shows. Which even now isn't impossible (again remember it wasn't that long ago the house show business was doing so bad WWE was cancelling shows and and were talking about doing it away completely). But that's going to take months of bad tv to really effect WWE. I will disagree that AEW is losing steam now. They absolutely did lose steam last year because of the holding pattern due to injuries (not even talking the All Out fiasco) and as I said to you in the AEW forum, I feel that Tony waited way too long to expand where AEW toured and I do think that hurt maximizing some growth, but again, I think sometimes people don't really appreciate where AEW is business wise as a company this soon... like even with a billionaire owner it's very improbable to be where they are. But that's a different discussion. But back to WWE, I think it's a matter of feel good vs looks good. The money will continue to come in which will make it difficult to change. but if shows like Monday become the norm? the feeling is going to keep getting negative and that could eventually effect parts of the bottom line (apathetic crowd, ticket sales being effected) but that's going to take months to effect as even before Vince was outed last year, WWE didn't have BAD tv per say. Wasn't well rounded, but what was good was good. AEW ticket sales for example (sorry to go back) took a hit because they legit almost did nothing after Punk got hurt in the summer so while matches were good, there wasn't much progression. So really took 3 months to feel that. I think if anything you're going to have to see a similar trend of WWE for business to be hurt Jimmy Van talked about it today on The List and Ya Boy with SRS, but he feels pretty confident Vince isn't going to be around in another 6-8 months if the RAW we saw on Monday is the standard going forward. Endeavor already sorta sees him as a liability, and thinks Ari is just paying him lip service. And he cited the fact that Endeavor has 6 board seats to WWE's 5 on this new board, and you can assume one of the WWE board members will be Nick Khan, and another will likely be Triple H. So even if Nick and Triple H do vote to keep Vince on (and I doubt they would), he (Vince) would need to convince at least one board member on the Endeavor side to avoid being ousted. Because his stock isn't going to be voting stock in NewCo/TKO, so he can't rig the votes in his favor. OK but how many people are gonna be that patient.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 4, 2023 23:43:59 GMT -5
The new owners, while running just the UFC, let one of their hottest talents walk AS CHAMPION because he wanted a different deal that'd let him do other stuff. I'm not convinced ANYONE is safe now.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 4, 2023 23:40:20 GMT -5
Chavo also tweeted about the issue I also have a lot of newfound respect for Chavo. GODDAMNIT I WAS GONNA DO THAT In all seriousness, though, major ups to Chavo for that.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 4, 2023 23:36:03 GMT -5
Nah, the WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER is beautiful meme fuel.
Progressive's ads, however, are so stupid in all forms that if they weren't the lowest cost car insurance I could find, I'd tell them to f*** off.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 4, 2023 23:32:59 GMT -5
People like Brock and Roman and a bunch of others as well. It will probably level off a bit next week but I wouldn’t bet any money on a mass exodus no matter how much it goes back to boring Vinsanity. Yeah, as much outrage and vows of being done as there are, at the end of the day it's not gonna affect it as much as it would need to to get Endeavor to realize they made a mistake keeping Vince.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 4, 2023 23:30:38 GMT -5
I don't see anything really wrong with being content with his spot and raking the money in, since end of the day you've got to do what's right for you when it comes to a job, but I do find the whole idea of him being any kind of leader pretty eyerolling when people bring that up. Not that I think it's a moral failing or anything but I do feel like if he had any sort of actual interest in elevating other people or making them look good he could easily get away with it rather than being this insufferable fire blanket that gets thrown on anything that starts to heat up in his proximity. Like immediately crushing Xavier after he won King of the Ring, there was absolutely no gain in that for anyone involved. I imagine being a leader in the locker room has to do with your personal relationships in dealing with people backstage and/or setting an example through your actions both backstage and how you perform, and doesn’t have to do with creative. That’s on the company. And as far as the creative, he's shown before that he's willing to just take orders regardless of whether they make sense or not.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 4, 2023 11:14:02 GMT -5
If Xero actually has this right, and I will grant that they aren't a banned source YET, I'll get a Xero tattoo on my ass. Dead serious.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 3, 2023 23:08:29 GMT -5
Denise Salcedo on the Fightful stream saying that the live, in-person crowd got progressively quieter as the show went on. Not surprised. She didn't hold back any criticism, which says a lot considering she was on the NXT panel this weekend. Glad to hear her honest opinion. When the normally super enthusiastic DENISE sounds disappointed, something's definitely up. There are people who are diehard Roman fans and such who I have seen visibly disappointed or outright pissed at how the last 48 hours have gone. Like, I'm one of those and aside from that I DO want things to get better, I DO want to stay optimistic, but this is bewildering to me on so many levels. And unless it comes out that any of the talent involved had a say in making this mess, I won't be blaming them. I'm gonna blame whoever the booker was and I couldn't tell you with any honesty who it is anymore.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 3, 2023 22:14:27 GMT -5
I did NOT need to see that ending when I've been trying to be optimistic.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 3, 2023 11:14:55 GMT -5
There were a few people on this board that were genuinely happy at last night's result. I honestly would be very interested on their thoughts as to how this continues as I cannot get my head around it from a business perspective let alone an emotional one. Hopefully someone gives us some insight from this perspective. Simply put, I've been a Reigns fan since the SHIELD debuted. Cody, not so much. In fact, Cody in ROH was a primary reason I stopped watching that promotion and part of why I never once gave AEW a second of my time. His return piqued my interest but it wasn't massively changing my opinion on him. Then came the RAW where Roman went shooty on the mic and his only response was, "Uh, I'm still gonna beat you anyway!" And I'm not gonna claim to know whose call that was for him to say that but it killed off my interest in Cody Rhodes entirely.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 3, 2023 11:08:09 GMT -5
It's gonna depend on how much. Mostly because I remember buying UFC 200 and got burned so hard that I've been unwilling to buy a PPV since.
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