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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 0:48:26 GMT -5
Can I just propose this to everyone in here who thinks this is the end of the world? Who would you have face Rollins instead? Ambrose has faced him a million times. Orton has faced him a million times. Ryback is hurt and IC Champion. Reigns probably could have but they seem to want him against Wyatt due to (Spoiler). Ziggler is feuding with Rusev. Who does that leave? Cesaro? Prior to 3 weeks ago that guy was below every else I just listed and is probably better off facing Owens at SummerSlam (possibly for the vacant US Title). I'm not saying Cena is the ideal option, but I haven't seen anyone give any good alternatives that aren't Kane, and who the hell wants to see that instead? Personally, just about any other full-timer, with Orton as the possible exception. I'd rather Rollins defend against Cesaro, Ambrose, Ziggler, Rusev, Owens, The Miz, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, The Uso That Isn't Hurt, The Uso That is Hurt, Sasha Banks, Rosa Mendes, Diego, Viktor, Baron Corbin, Bull Dempsey, That One Guy in NXT With the Big Hands, Uhaa Nation, Some Random TNA Reject, Some Random ECW Reject, or Tony Chimel. Basically what I'm saying is, F*** John Cena. I said good alternative, not another "JOHN CENA RUINS WRESTLING" argument.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 0:38:38 GMT -5
They could always just add The Ascension to them and have someone sit for the you know what. Or I guess find a 4th for (Spoiler).
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 0:32:48 GMT -5
Can I just propose this to everyone in here who thinks this is the end of the world?
Who would you have face Rollins instead? Ambrose has faced him a million times. Orton has faced him a million times. Ryback is hurt and IC Champion. Reigns probably could have but they seem to want him against Wyatt due to (Spoiler). Ziggler is feuding with Rusev. Who does that leave? Cesaro? Prior to 3 weeks ago that guy was below every else I just listed and is probably better off facing Owens at SummerSlam (possibly for the vacant US Title).
I'm not saying Cena is the ideal option, but I haven't seen anyone give any good alternatives that aren't Kane, and who the hell wants to see that instead?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 21:19:14 GMT -5
Time to start predicting the card:
Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker Seth Rollins vs. John Cena for the WWE Title Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, & *Spoiler* vs. The Wyatt Family Rusev & Summer Rae vs. Dolph Ziggler & Lana Ryback vs. The Big Show for the IC Title Diva War Tag Thingy Kevin Owens vs. Cesaro for the vacant US Title
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 20:39:46 GMT -5
What match were you watching, brah? Crowd was into it the entire way. He means they were cheering Bray instead so naturally the crowd wasn't good. The crowd wasn't reacting as much as they are tonight on either side of the equation. It wasn't until the last 5 minutes that the crowd really showed much of a big reaction for Reigns or Wyatt last night. They're a lot more lively tonight. Though yes, I am someone who finds the narrative easier to watch when the crowd is cheering for the good guy.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 20:31:15 GMT -5
Why couldn't this crowd have been there last night for the Reigns/Wyatt match? It probably would have been more enjoyable with a lively crowd
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 20:13:05 GMT -5
Plastic ties, my only weakness!
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 19:23:42 GMT -5
Charlotte has a weird body, I can't put my finger on why She's taller than a lot of them I think. She used to look really weird when she debuted in NXT with the color scheme she used. Thankfully she changed it for something better.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 19:21:04 GMT -5
What the f*** was that?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 19:18:58 GMT -5
Oh god it's BACK
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 18:44:41 GMT -5
As someone who likes Reigns and has been trying to go to SummerSlam, I'll say this. Reigns is going to get a horrible reaction at SummerSlam, but not entirely because its New York. SummerSlam tickets were essentially not available to the general public. They technically were but with some caveats. The majority of the tickets were sold via presales on Ticketmaster that most people did not know about, you could only buy 2 tickets maximum, and sold out almost immediately. No casual fan will have gotten a ticket via this. The rest of the tickets sold out in under a second the day they came out due to there be so little left (as well as bots I'm assuming). So most tickets either ended up in the hands of the really hardcore fans OR on second hand markets like StubHub. The tickets on StubHub are RIDICULOUSLY overpriced. Most tickets are being put up for 3 times the value and have not gone down a dime since tickets went on sale. No casual fan is going to spend three hundred, nor family is going to spend thousands of dollars to sit in the nosebleeds to watch SummerSlam. Now you may think that I'm just assuming things, but to my understanding this is exactly what happened with the Royal Rumble tickets. Considering how that crowd was that night, I have no doubt that SummerSlam will be similar. It's unfortunate too because Reigns has definitely been winning people over, but there are still some parts of the country that will refuse to accept him out of principle. I think he COULD win over New York, but given the actual landscape of WHO will be at the show, it won't happen at SummerSlam. I guess will see what happens re: Reigns, but I still can't believe general sale had no tickets, and I spent $300 on 2 seats for this show. From now on I'm presale presale presale. Technically it wasn't zero tickets, but they sold out within seconds if you used Ticketmaster. The only people I know who got non-presale or resale tickets bought them directly at the Barclays Center the day they went on sale. If you look at Stubhub right now, no one in their right mind would pay that much to go to SummerSlam unless they were a REALLY hardcore fan or rich.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 16:16:55 GMT -5
Here's the problem with the early thinking:
Reigns is VERY over in Texas. The last time they were in Dallas the crowd was chanting "WE WANT REIGNS" while Bryan/Ziggler were in the ring as his tag partners. If the crowd is mainly made up of locals, he'll be cheered. If he goes into Mania and is booed by the majority of the fans, it just shows you that the "home crowd" of Mania means diddly squat.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 13:28:45 GMT -5
As someone who likes Reigns and has been trying to go to SummerSlam, I'll say this. Reigns is going to get a horrible reaction at SummerSlam, but not entirely because its New York.
SummerSlam tickets were essentially not available to the general public. They technically were but with some caveats. The majority of the tickets were sold via presales on Ticketmaster that most people did not know about, you could only buy 2 tickets maximum, and sold out almost immediately. No casual fan will have gotten a ticket via this. The rest of the tickets sold out in under a second the day they came out due to there be so little left (as well as bots I'm assuming). So most tickets either ended up in the hands of the really hardcore fans OR on second hand markets like StubHub. The tickets on StubHub are RIDICULOUSLY overpriced. Most tickets are being put up for 3 times the value and have not gone down a dime since tickets went on sale. No casual fan is going to spend three hundred, nor family is going to spend thousands of dollars to sit in the nosebleeds to watch SummerSlam. Now you may think that I'm just assuming things, but to my understanding this is exactly what happened with the Royal Rumble tickets. Considering how that crowd was that night, I have no doubt that SummerSlam will be similar.
It's unfortunate too because Reigns has definitely been winning people over, but there are still some parts of the country that will refuse to accept him out of principle. I think he COULD win over New York, but given the actual landscape of WHO will be at the show, it won't happen at SummerSlam.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 13:23:15 GMT -5
Oh for christ's sake are we gonna have this thread after EVERY pay-per-view now?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 20, 2015 5:11:07 GMT -5
I saw nothing different about the main event versus Lesnar vs. Cena at SummerSlam outside of Rollins getting in a lot less offense, which makes perfect sense in the context of everything happening. This wasn't a scam, you just didn't enjoy the show. Not everything is a scam because WWE didn't decide to book things the way you want them too. It almost reminds me of those people who complained that they got ripped off because they apparently only paid 65 bucks to see Sheamus vs Bryan at WrestleMania 28
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 19, 2015 21:46:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure WWE was going towards Reigns vs. Lesnar for the title at SummerSlam based on a poster that was leaked about a month ago, but that clearly has changed. Undertaker vs. Lesnar is clearly on the cards, Reigns lost to Wyatt (some people know why), who's left?
Is he really gonna face Kane? I mean granted they have kind of been building towards that for a while, though I think they should have done that a month ago if anything.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 19, 2015 21:24:04 GMT -5
The pop would have been twice as loud if Owens won
Sorry if I come off as an asshole right now but for TEN F***ING YEARS I HAVE WATCHED THE SAME FEUD. Owens was the guy who came the closest to making it DIFFERENT
And the WWE said no and it's the same god damn thing every single time
CENA WINS
So F*** it. I don't care. I'm F***ing PISSED. I've HAD IT with Cena, I have just HAD IT.
i wish to god real fans would get together and start protesting directly somehow..maybe then a difference can be made. otherwise you might as well enjoy cena blowing through everyone for another decade What constitutes a "real fan" in your mind? There's a way to protest, it's called don't watch.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 19, 2015 21:20:40 GMT -5
Yeah way to deflate the entire crowd that cheered very loudly when Cena won. I feel your pain now Ric if you see this. The pop would have been twice as loud if Owens won
Sorry if I come off as an asshole right now but for TEN F***ING YEARS I HAVE WATCHED THE SAME FEUD. Owens was the guy who came the closest to making it DIFFERENT
And the WWE said no and it's the same god damn thing every single time
CENA WINS
So F*** it. I don't care. I'm F***ing PISSED. I've HAD IT with Cena, I have just HAD IT.
It sounded to me like most of the arena cheered Cena winning, so I will respectfully disagree with your point.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 19, 2015 21:15:14 GMT -5
Way to deflate the entire crowd Way to deflate the Thread What a F***ing asshole company. They had the chance to make a star, and they blew it. Yeah way to deflate the entire crowd that cheered very loudly when Cena won. I feel your pain now Ric if you see this.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 19, 2015 20:14:49 GMT -5
Match has definitely picked up quite a bit in the last 5 minutes. If only Bray knew other moves to do in the previous 10
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