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Post by eJm on Jan 6, 2008 20:00:07 GMT -5
Long time users of the forum would know of my first effort to find the worst cartoons ever made with the help from members of the Wrestlecrap community...but it sort of bombed.
So, with inspiration of watching some nonsensical cartoons, I've decided to try again.
But this time, I have a few ground rules.
1) Give reasons I don't want people just flaring out random names and say they 'suck' without some kind of reason. '(Insert Toon Here) is not as good as the ones I used to watch as a kid because it sucks' is NOT a good reason.
2) Try to judge your reason. If the animation was bad, if the dialogue is bad, if the character develpoment and script is bad, then the cartoon is bad.
3) Don't pick on others for their decisions. Obvious, I know but just to make sure. You can disagree, but no arguments. I don't want anyone to be banned or this thread to be closed.
And if possible, give a link to where I could watch a full episode so that I can judge for myself. Because, just like 'ol RD and others, I have the final overall decision on what gets inducted (but if you want to help out, feel free.) So, Crappers, let loose!
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Post by big nasty on Jan 6, 2008 21:21:12 GMT -5
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 6, 2008 21:23:28 GMT -5
Mega Babies Rationale: This is the only cartoon with toilet humor disgusting enough to literally make me throw up. The premise was 3 genetically enhanced superhero babies who would defeat opponents by vomiting or crapping on them. Do I really need any more justification? Bad animation? Check. Characters whose only trait was their bodily functions? Check. Nauseous story premises, such as a fast-food manager who wanted to get back at people who mocked him for his weight by serving them "100% recycled burgers, and then dies after exploding when ingesting a massive amount of his 'meat?'" Check. EDIT: Link to intro: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VhW4sZkPRQ
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jan 6, 2008 21:28:05 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7yYCepJmZMthe partridge Family in 2200 AD. Proof that not every show needed a cartoon spin off. Also is it just me or did Hanna Barbera rip off their own ideas all the time?
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Post by eJm on Jan 6, 2008 21:30:17 GMT -5
Also is it just me or did Hanna Barbera rip off their own ideas all the time? I will defend Hanna Barbera as an influential studio until my face goes blue. But, my LORD did they make alot of crap.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jan 6, 2008 21:35:07 GMT -5
Petey and Jaydee A series of short computer animated cartoons made in Australia that is usually shown on SBS in the 7 minute gap between South Park and Drawn Together. The cartoon is about two tiny aliens exploring a house or garden shed. They usually find something and one them is killed by the thing they discover and the surviving alien laughs. Its crap because of the annoying music that plays threw it and the voices of the aliens. Plus the violence I guess it's trying to be like Happy Tree Friends but it just does not work in this show. It's just sad it's the creators wanted to make something far out and violent but then they saw a picture of their kids and toned it down and the result is an annoying cartoon. It sucks and when SBS show it they show about 3 episodes in one block and the music just drives me f***ing batty. See it and judge for yourself: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcgcBjYRMYs
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jan 6, 2008 21:35:25 GMT -5
I will defend Hanna Barbera as an influential studio until my face goes blue. But, my LORD did they make alot of crap. No doubt Hanna Barbera were innovators in the field of TV animation and indeed did make some of my all time favourites but some of their output was bad Yo Yogi a terrible attempt to modernise a genuine classic. www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-RZoMBNCo
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Post by gsguy on Jan 6, 2008 22:09:55 GMT -5
The show: Disney's Doug Reason: The whole smurfing show. Description: No one can deny it, the 90's were a breath of fresh air for cartoons. Within the first 6 years, we got: Doug Rugrats Ren and Stimpy Tiny Toons Animanaics Freakazoid and many more Then Disney bought the rights to Doug and started airing their version in 1996...and as John Milton said in Paradise Lost "All hell broketh loose." Right from the start, I knew it was a disaster. Doug (who is not Billy West here...strike 1) wants to ask his dad a big question that seems like it might be the birds and the bees. Now one of my favorite things to see in a usually funny cartoon is when they try to briefly be serious. Tiny Toons did it (drinking), Rugrats did it (death of a parent), and many other as well. But the big question was so epic, it would break barriers, it would demolish the sound barrier... "What's a clutch?" What's a clutch? What's a clutch?!? If you're going to do a serious bit, you either: (A) Have an anvil or other heavy object fall on the person at the end of the skit (B) Actually be serious. Needless to say, we had other changes that sucekd worse including Roger Klotz going from a bully who had a softer side as he was in near poverty to a bully who was spoiled rich after his family won the loterry (that worked so well for Rozanne ), the mythichal Skunky Beaumont actually appear and become a pathetic character, Doug's new sister being named Cleopatra dirtbike Funny (there weren't any better entrys Disney?), the mayor becoming the principal for no logical reason, and the Honker Burger being turned into a french restaurant (Can't remember the name, someone chime in.) To sum it up, Disney took a surefire cartoon franchise and put so many gimmicks in that it almost ruined it right out of the gate. How it lasted three years I'll never know.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jan 6, 2008 22:13:28 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Jan 6, 2008 22:25:30 GMT -5
From most of what I've seen...the first induction probably will be a Crazy Spin off one.
Now, if I could only find full episodes....
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Post by Ravishing Rob Rude on Jan 7, 2008 0:36:32 GMT -5
Mega Babies Rationale: This is the only cartoon with toilet humor disgusting enough to literally make me throw up. The premise was 3 genetically enhanced superhero babies who would defeat opponents by vomiting or crapping on them. Do I really need any more justification? Bad animation? Check. Characters whose only trait was their bodily functions? Check. Nauseous story premises, such as a fast-food manager who wanted to get back at people who mocked him for his weight by serving them "100% recycled burgers, and then dies after exploding when ingesting a massive amount of his 'meat?'" Check. EDIT: Link to intro: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VhW4sZkPRQMy god YES!! What a horrible horrible show.
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Post by JMA on Jan 7, 2008 0:55:48 GMT -5
Disney really did screw up Doug. Which sucks, because Doug was one of my favorite shows.
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Post by The Line on Jan 7, 2008 0:56:18 GMT -5
Rugrats: All Grown Up
Reasons: It was a spin-off of a cartoon that had overstaid its welcome by about 4 or 5 years that was set 10 or so years after the original cartoon in attempt to keep the aging fanbase. It tried to be hip and cool with all the funky-fresh kids, but was about as cool as your grandparents listening to rap music, because. lets face it, it was on Nick(this was during the time period where Nick was at least pretending to still be focused mainly at children and not teens). Terrible dialogue, bad stories. Its one of those things that takes one's fondest childhood memories and curb-stomps it into oblivion.
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Post by Loki on Jan 7, 2008 6:05:53 GMT -5
I'll pay for that, but I don't care...
American Dad. A clone of Family Guy, that was already suspiciously similar to the Simpsons. At least FG guy had a different drawing style and its own "personality" (as much as I don't like it). American Dad is just a predictable mix of the two most popular cartoon families of the last decade. And a poor mix IMO.
The anime about racing small radio-controlled cars. Can't remember the titile, but God it was bad... Did they come up with the toys first and then build up a cartoon to promote them?
Another nomination that will grant me endless hate... Yu-gi-oh and all the "card-based" cartoons. Ok, maybe the game is actually fun to play with actual cards. But watching a cartoon about the game? When will they create a series about Chess?
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Jan 7, 2008 6:07:57 GMT -5
When will they create a series about Chess? We're working on it.
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Post by eJm on Jan 7, 2008 6:25:19 GMT -5
Another nomination that will grant me endless hate... Yu-gi-oh and all the "card-based" cartoons. Ok, maybe the game is actually fun to play with actual cards. But watching a cartoon about the game? When will they create a series about Chess? This is when I get honest. As a YGO player, the cartoon got me into the game and I haven't regretted that since.. But I was 13 at the time, so you can't really blame me. But yeah, everyone praises YGO so damn much when I don't see it. It's not horrible, but it's exceedinly stupid. I'd mark for that anime version of Chess, though.
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Post by Loki on Jan 7, 2008 6:26:53 GMT -5
When will they create a series about Chess? We're working on it. Awesome! Can't wait to watch a 20 minutes episode about the difficult choice between Bishop in F6 and Rook in D5
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Post by FrankGotch on Jan 7, 2008 6:37:15 GMT -5
Awesome! Can't wait to watch a 20 minutes episode about the difficult choice between Bishop in F6 and Rook in D5 Staring Bobby Fisher and his supercomputer friend Big Blue as they fight a never ending battle against the USSR to keep the game of chess democratic.
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Post by K7 - WC's Crowd Extra on Jan 7, 2008 6:52:00 GMT -5
Petey and Jaydee A series of short computer animated cartoons made in Australia that is usually shown on SBS in the 7 minute gap between South Park and Drawn Together. The cartoon is about two tiny aliens exploring a house or garden shed. They usually find something and one them is killed by the thing they discover and the surviving alien laughs. Its crap because of the annoying music that plays threw it and the voices of the aliens. Plus the violence I guess it's trying to be like Happy Tree Friends but it just does not work in this show. It's just sad it's the creators wanted to make something far out and violent but then they saw a picture of their kids and toned it down and the result is an annoying cartoon. It sucks and when SBS show it they show about 3 episodes in one block and the music just drives me smurfing batty. See it and judge for yourself: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcgcBjYRMYsAgreed, it's kinda lame.
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Post by THE Baldy Kendrick on Jan 7, 2008 7:57:41 GMT -5
The show: Disney's Doug Reason: The whole smurfing show. Description: No one can deny it, the 90's were a breath of fresh air for cartoons. Within the first 6 years, we got: Doug Rugrats Ren and Stimpy Tiny Toons Animanaics Freakazoid and many more Then Disney bought the rights to Doug and started airing their version in 1996...and as John Milton said in Paradise Lost "All hell broketh loose." Right from the start, I knew it was a disaster. Doug (who is not Billy West here...strike 1) wants to ask his dad a big question that seems like it might be the birds and the bees. Now one of my favorite things to see in a usually funny cartoon is when they try to briefly be serious. Tiny Toons did it (drinking), Rugrats did it (death of a parent), and many other as well. But the big question was so epic, it would break barriers, it would demolish the sound barrier... "What's a clutch?" What's a clutch? What's a clutch?!? If you're going to do a serious bit, you either: (A) Have an anvil or other heavy object fall on the person at the end of the skit (B) Actually be serious. Needless to say, we had other changes that sucekd worse including Roger Klotz going from a bully who had a softer side as he was in near poverty to a bully who was spoiled rich after his family won the loterry (that worked so well for Rozanne ), the mythichal Skunky Beaumont actually appear and become a pathetic character, Doug's new sister being named Cleopatra dirtbike Funny (there weren't any better entrys Disney?), the mayor becoming the principal for no logical reason, and the Honker Burger being turned into a french restaurant (Can't remember the name, someone chime in.) To sum it up, Disney took a surefire cartoon franchise and put so many gimmicks in that it almost ruined it right out of the gate. How it lasted three years I'll never know. I have to respectfully disagree. Disney's Doug takes so much crap, but I think most of it is because the original is SO good in comparison. It's like Eli Manning; yeah, it's probably in the bottom half of the league, but being Peyton's brother makes him seem so much worse than he actually is. My choice has to be: James Bond, Jr.Why? Take all of the things that made 007 great (the weapons, the girls, the style)... and neuter them in the form of making him a high school student.
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