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Post by Hakumental on Jan 10, 2008 2:21:04 GMT -5
I never wished harm on him at all, i said that he deserved to get beat up legit Do you know what a non sequitur is?
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Jan 10, 2008 2:21:27 GMT -5
I never wished harm on him at all, i said that he deserved to get beat up legit Do you know what a non sequitur is? No, nice way to put it out of context though.
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Post by Hakumental on Jan 10, 2008 2:24:07 GMT -5
I eliminate redundant clutter when I can to save time. Saying you did not wish harm on someone and then saying you wished a brand of harm on them that you perceive as "a way of the business" is a non sequitur.
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Jan 10, 2008 2:25:21 GMT -5
I eliminate redundant clutter when I can to save time. Saying you did not wish harm on someone and then saying you wished a brand of harm on them that you perceive as "a way of the business" is a non sequitur. If you say so.
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 10, 2008 2:31:57 GMT -5
non sequitur is a Latin phrase that simply means, "It does not follow."
In this context, the non sequitur is "didn't wish harm"/"get beat up legit." If you'd said, in the first place, that you wished that Jeff Hardy would have paid his dues as a young wrestler, including getting worked over by a stiff veteran once or twice, then there would be no non sequitur. Getting "beat up legit" doesn't specify in the ring as opposed to outside of a bar or on his mama's front steps or by the Hell's Angels. That's the confusion, and that's probably the deal with the mods.
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Jan 10, 2008 2:33:18 GMT -5
Ehh, i fixed it.
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Post by ghettooverlord on Jan 10, 2008 2:53:29 GMT -5
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN READING THIS THREAD!?
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H-Fist
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 10, 2008 2:55:29 GMT -5
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN READING THIS THREAD!? What do you think?
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Post by ghettooverlord on Jan 10, 2008 3:01:26 GMT -5
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN READING THIS THREAD!? What do you think? d00d it's that guy from DNA
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Ace Diamond
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jan 10, 2008 3:27:47 GMT -5
For the record, Jeff HAS paid his dues as a wrestler, including getting stiffed by Scott Hall at one point in the early days of his career. But why let facts get in the way of a lack of rational thought?
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Jan 10, 2008 3:30:38 GMT -5
For the record, Jeff HAS paid his dues as a wrestler, including getting stiffed by Scott Hall at one point in the early days of his career. But why let facts get in the way of a lack of rational thought? You're a little late on the conversation. Even though he got stiffed (Good for Hall) it didn't give him the initiative to go get trained and learn his craft. To each there own and he has made it far on very little talent.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Jan 10, 2008 3:38:55 GMT -5
^Indeed he has. I noticed his flaws more as I got older and watched his matches from a different perspective.
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MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 10, 2008 3:41:13 GMT -5
While I often have doubts about his ability to main event, matches like Monday's and his Ladder Match with Taker suggest that he is capable of putting on 4-5-star showings. The question is, can he do it in gimmick-less matches?
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Jan 10, 2008 3:44:33 GMT -5
While I often have doubts about his ability to main event, matches like Monday's and his Ladder Match with Taker suggest that he is capable of putting on 4-5-star showings. The question is, can he do it in gimmick-less matches? I agree. I think in a gimmick match, he definitely can shine, but consistently in matches that are just normal matches, I'm not sure. I did enjoy his match with Umaga from last year's GAB (?) but I'm not sure about long-term matches without ladders, cages, tables etc.
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longdogga
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Post by longdogga on Jan 10, 2008 3:44:48 GMT -5
For the record, Jeff HAS paid his dues as a wrestler, including getting stiffed by Scott Hall at one point in the early days of his career. But why let facts get in the way of a lack of rational thought? cause its no where near as much fun
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Boku AKA Da Green Guy
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 10, 2008 3:52:59 GMT -5
For the record, Jeff HAS paid his dues as a wrestler, including getting stiffed by Scott Hall at one point in the early days of his career. But why let facts get in the way of a lack of rational thought? You're a little late on the conversation. Even though he got stiffed (Good for Hall) it didn't give him the initiative to go get trained and learn his craft. To each there own and he has made it far on very little talent. Even my hate of Hardy in TNA didn't reach this far in blind hate.
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Post by Childish Gambino on Jan 10, 2008 5:05:39 GMT -5
Haven't seen it Gif'd yet. So here you goo
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Post by Loki on Jan 10, 2008 5:13:33 GMT -5
Oh well... it looks like some people will mark the hell out for a dozen of insane highspots crammed together in a match for no other reason then getting the crowd to chant "holy shit" and "TNA TNA", but when a wrestler just performs ONE big spot to end a match, and making almost perfect sense it the context, all we got is "meh, we've seen people performing 720° moonsaults from the rafters into flaming tables..."
Sure, a lot of matches in TNA and in backyard feds had more highspots, from higher places, with a higher coefficient of difficulty (it's like talking about a diving competition here).
But how many of them did actually made sense in the economy of the match? I mean, after a superplex and a powerbomb off the cage, a running hurricanrana off the top of the cage add squat to the psychology of the match IMO.
SO, I don't think Jeff Hardy's WitW off the top of the cage was the best spot ever, but it made an helluva sense in the context, and luckly in WWE a highspot are still few and far between, and that makes them more special.
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Ribbo
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Post by Ribbo on Jan 10, 2008 5:36:44 GMT -5
Meh, I can't get excited over a leap off a cage anymore... I've seen so many retarded spot monkeys do more, and it sucks smurf. I wanna be able to pop for a highspot, but I can't. You are dead inside.
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Boku AKA Da Green Guy
El Dandy
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 10, 2008 5:40:00 GMT -5
Oh well... it looks like some people will mark the hell out for a dozen of insane highspots crammed together in a match for no other reason then getting the crowd to chant "holy crap" and "TNA TNA", but when a wrestler just performs ONE big spot to end a match, and making almost perfect sense it the context, all we got is "meh, we've seen people performing 720° moonsaults from the rafters into flaming tables..." Sure, a lot of matches in TNA and in backyard feds had more highspots, from higher places, with a higher coefficient of difficulty (it's like talking about a diving competition here). But how many of them did actually made sense in the economy of the match? I mean, after a superplex and a powerbomb off the cage, a running hurricanrana off the top of the cage add squat to the psychology of the match IMO. SO, I don't think Jeff Hardy's WitW off the top of the cage was the best spot ever, but it made an helluva sense in the context, and luckly in WWE a highspot are still few and far between, and that makes them more special. See, I liked the spot and was pleased with it. But I didn't think for a second that it topped Jimmy Snuka's leap.
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