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Post by saggyboyflair on Jan 12, 2008 16:26:43 GMT -5
list. Ok I asked about Savage. But where do u guys rank Flair? Sorry I like to hear your guy's input ;D
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Jan 12, 2008 16:27:28 GMT -5
Number 2 behind Piper.
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Post by Garee on Jan 12, 2008 16:29:20 GMT -5
Top 5
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Post by bindergang on Jan 12, 2008 16:30:49 GMT -5
Top 10. No way top 5.
When I think of bests, I think of not only best wrestling and most charismatic, but those who excelled in terms of popularity and super stardom. Outside of "Flair Country", only wrestling fans really know Ric Flair.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2008 16:33:18 GMT -5
If this were 1987, I'd tell you #1.
But since then, he's had many bad years (especially in the late '90s) so he drops to around 7th or 8th place.
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The In-Crowd
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Post by The In-Crowd on Jan 12, 2008 16:35:27 GMT -5
As Roddy Piper once said "If you ask an honest man he will tell you Ric Flair is the greatest of all time"
#1
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Post by clarky on Jan 12, 2008 16:35:57 GMT -5
I we are talking total package, top 10. If we are talking quality of matchs, top 5, maybe top 3, possibly no1.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jan 12, 2008 16:36:24 GMT -5
Top 5 definitely.
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Post by bindergang on Jan 12, 2008 16:36:39 GMT -5
As Roddy Piper once said "If you ask an honest man he will tell you Ric Flair is the greatest of all time" #1 Coming from the man who used a sleeper hold as his finisher. |
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 12, 2008 16:38:21 GMT -5
As Roddy Piper once said "If you ask an honest man he will tell you Ric Flair is the greatest of all time" #1 Coming from the man who used a sleeper hold as his finisher. Would you have prefered Piper use a 450 splash? |
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Post by The In-Crowd on Jan 12, 2008 16:41:02 GMT -5
Coming from the man who used a sleeper hold as his finisher. Would you have prefered Piper use a 450 splash? No crap right I could See Piper doing a SSP tho |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Jan 12, 2008 16:41:11 GMT -5
As Roddy Piper once said "If you ask an honest man he will tell you Ric Flair is the greatest of all time" #1 Coming from the man who used a sleeper hold as his finisher. Context, context, context Piper used the sleeper from the 70s and 80s when it was a realistic finisher. Just because it didn`t have 7000 degree flips doesn`t make it a bad finisher. Look at nearly all matches from the same period, the finishers are mostly used as transitional moves. Hell the DDT was the most devastating finisher ever for a period. Now its a 2 count. |
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Post by bindergang on Jan 12, 2008 16:42:46 GMT -5
Context, context, context Piper used the sleeper from the 70s and 80s when it was a realistic finisher. Just because it didn`t have 7000 degree flips doesn`t make it a bad finisher. Look at nearly all matches from the same period, the finishers are mostly used as transitional moves. Hell the DDT was the most devastating finisher ever for a period. Now its a 2 count. Coming from the man who used a sleeper hold as his finisher. The DDT is devastating and can be used as a finisher if a wrestler calls it their finisher (Raven, Mick Foley, etc.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2008 16:44:57 GMT -5
Coming from the man who used a sleeper hold as his finisher. Context, context, context Piper used the sleeper from the 70s and 80s when it was a realistic finisher. Just because it didn`t have 7000 degree flips doesn`t make it a bad finisher. Look at nearly all matches from the same period, the finishers are mostly used as transitional moves. Hell the DDT was the most devastating finisher ever for a period. Now its a 2 count. Just about to say the same thing. It was a different time. Moves that are mostly used as normal moves now, were devastating finishers then. The moves have just got flashier over the years, that's all. |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Jan 12, 2008 16:45:34 GMT -5
The DDT is devastating and can be used as a finisher if a wrestler calls it their finisher (Raven, Mick Foley, etc.) So could the sleeper if used effectively. The Masterlock was a Full Nelson and was the only interesting thing about Masters. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 12, 2008 17:11:13 GMT -5
Top 3
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on Jan 12, 2008 17:15:46 GMT -5
Numero Uno.
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Post by >(straightedgepunk)< on Jan 12, 2008 17:19:25 GMT -5
Top 5
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Post by Celgress on Jan 12, 2008 17:21:12 GMT -5
In terms of drawing power; number four behind Hogan, Austin, & Rock. In terms of in ring work, mic skills, and over all character number one baby WOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by H-Fist on Jan 12, 2008 17:30:18 GMT -5
One of Samoa Joe's finishes is a dry-hump sleeper. Piper's and Adonis's and Beefcake's sleepers are of the same era as Hogan's leg drop and Warrior's splash. It's all about context.
If we're talking about drawing money:
1) Bruno Sammartino
2) Hulk Hogan
3) Steve Austin
4) The Rock
5) Ric Flair
6) Andre the Giant (in his prime)
Let's expand on that to look at the wrestlers who were solid in every aspect of the on-screen business. The following is an unranked list:
Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Roddy Piper, Jake Roberts, Terry Funk, Ric Flair, Mick Foley, Steve Austin, Ricky Steamboat, Ted DiBiase, Owen Hart, Bret Hart, Bruno Sammartino, Shawn Michaels.
To provide something of a comparison, I'd say guys like Undertaker, Andre the Giant, Sting, Dusty Rhodes, and Curt Hennig are on that one-lower tier of greatness.
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