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Post by saggyboyflair on Feb 22, 2008 1:43:40 GMT -5
and other worthless talent on Raw or Smackdown? I know Masters has been in trouble for various problems(drugs whatever) But the guy wasnt THAT BAD. He was blossoming into a pretty good worker really and had obviously had the look. They keep these worthless blow up surgery dolls, who are there just for men to look at. But lets be honest, they have channels and certain types of clubs for that. Why mix half naked women into a wrestling show? There a few who are pretty good in the ring but a majority or just there to be eye candy. There seems to be more half naked chicks on raw then are actual WRESTLERS. Masters is just as good as most people on raw or smackdown right now. He may not be popular at the IWC but he has pretty good talent and the look. What more else is there? Mic work? Most current guys cant work the mic except for the veterans. Charisma?? How many wrestlers truly HAVE CHARISMA today? Or showcase that charisma if they do have it? Orton messed up a couple hundred of times and HE WORLD CHAMP!! Not to mention Orton has the charisma and mic skills of a plastic plant They could have at least kept masters around and let him prove himself Hes only 24 or so for christ sakes!!  Boys will be boys. |
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 22, 2008 1:51:10 GMT -5
It's the fact that Masters doesn't have the pedigree or friends to get away with screwing up like Orton does.
He was pretty much a black hole of talent and heat. It doesn't matter if you are built well if you are completely devoid of heat. It doesn't matter if he has improved outside of the WWE because he will never be back in the WWE. He failed the wellness test three times, remember.
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Post by WhiteFu on Feb 22, 2008 1:57:37 GMT -5
There's like 20 better wrestlers than Masters you can name that have been released in the last couple years.
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Post by saggyboyflair on Feb 22, 2008 2:00:42 GMT -5
And I guarantee if you were test 100% of the roster today out of a 6 month period (40-50%) would prolly flunk the drug test 2-3 times Its alot like in 92 when the feds started cracking down on drugs in the biz, davey boy and warrior became the scapegoats since they were the most obvious looking to be on something. Now that the heat is off vince, since its been a while since the benoit tragedy, I havent read about too many drug test flunkees. I mean u dont have to a PH.D to tell who is the on the stuff and who isnt. Masters seemed like scapegoat more than anything.
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Feb 22, 2008 2:04:05 GMT -5
I mean u dont have to a PH.D to tell who is the on the stuff and who isnt. I always love this argument. Like it's IMPOSSIBLE to get a lot of muscles by spending a ton of time in the gym. I mean, of course the reason Trips and Cena pass drug tests is because they're protected and not because they just spend half their life on a weightbench. Yeah, you don't need to be a Ph.D. You just need a lab test. |
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Post by casualobserver on Feb 22, 2008 2:24:29 GMT -5
An apologist for Chris Masters of all people? Wow, just when I thought I've seen everything.
Oh yea, and bonus points for basically arguing that Masters should've been kept around because he sucks less than a couple of other people on the roster.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 22, 2008 2:27:36 GMT -5
There have been other people released far more worth bitching about than Chris Masters....
And that whole "looks can tell" thing is bullshit. You can look like Cena and be clean and look like Matt Hardy and be a roid user. Genetics and all that people don't react the same to them.
What you should be looking for is quick and obvious mass gains/losses and guys repeatedly tearing muscles, especially off the bone.
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Post by King Fox -1017 Bricksquad on Feb 22, 2008 2:28:03 GMT -5
You just like complaining, don't you?
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 22, 2008 2:37:00 GMT -5
I'll defend Masters a little bit. He seems like he really loves the business and wants to improve from the interviews he's given since his release. Plus, he was in there bumping for guys half his size. I thought he was best when teaming with Carlito and he slapped the hell out of him one night for costing them a match. He had a really good sound and look when he was playing pissed off.
That being said, I have no ill will towards the guy, we're about the same age, so I think he has a bright future. Wasn't he talking about going to Japan? That might work wonders for him. Look at A-Train.
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Post by saggyboyflair on Feb 22, 2008 2:46:23 GMT -5
There have been other people released far more worth bitching about than Chris Masters.... And that whole "looks can tell" thing is bullcrap. You can look like Cena and be clean and look like Matt Hardy and be a roid user. Genetics and all that people don't react the same to them. What you should be looking for is quick and obvious mass gains/losses and guys repeatedly tearing muscles, especially off the bone. like triple h? Whoops I didnt just go there. And you can tell btw the difference of a natural physique and one chemically made. Veins exploding all over the place, "bitch tits", back acne etc |
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Post by Baixo Astral on Feb 22, 2008 2:53:34 GMT -5
You just like complaining, don't you? Circle gets the square. |
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Post by saggyboyflair on Feb 22, 2008 2:54:54 GMT -5
Im just pointing out something. Why does it always seem like I am complaining?
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Post by default on Feb 22, 2008 3:09:41 GMT -5
Hmm... Masters did an interview where he seemed to say he knew where WWE was coming from with his release. He did a show in Japan and for Harley Race's fed. Plus "word" went around online that he will more than likely return at some point as he's young and liked by the talent and management.
Oh, and there was even a rumor that he was being looked at for a possible role on American Gladiators next season.
Bottom line, I doubt dude is starving. He seems to be comfortable taking this as a life experience and will more than likely be back on TV in some form of fashion eventually. He's only 25.
He's also rumored to have
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Post by Veladus Jobs To Dead Computers on Feb 22, 2008 4:02:12 GMT -5
Im just pointing out something. Why does it always seem like I am complaining? This is a shot in the dark, but... because you're always complaining? |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 22, 2008 4:24:46 GMT -5
Im just pointing out something. Why does it always seem like I am complaining? Well if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... |
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Post by Corporate H on Feb 22, 2008 4:41:55 GMT -5
The problem with Master is the same as Carlito's, he never got a major angle outside of his debut to put him over the edge.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Feb 22, 2008 5:02:05 GMT -5
There have been other people released far more worth bitching about than Chris Masters.... And that whole "looks can tell" thing is bullcrap. You can look like Cena and be clean and look like Matt Hardy and be a roid user. Genetics and all that people don't react the same to them. What you should be looking for is quick and obvious mass gains/losses and guys repeatedly tearing muscles, especially off the bone. like triple h? Whoops I didnt just go there. And you can tell btw the difference of a natural physique and one chemically made. Veins exploding all over the place, "bitch tits", back acne etc Yes because roid users are the only ones to have protuding Veins, "Bitch Tits" or Bacne. |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Feb 22, 2008 5:26:50 GMT -5
Masters was given his chances, and as has been stated previously, he was a black hole of talent and heat.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 22, 2008 5:43:09 GMT -5
Masters was given his chances, and as has been stated previously, he was a black hole of talent and heat. Indeed. As I stated. Orton and Masters are actually nearly the same except changing heat with charisma. |
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Post by Loki on Feb 22, 2008 6:11:26 GMT -5
Well, Masters looked vaguely talented during his feud with Shawn Michaels... and that's hardly a sign of a great future, because Shawn could probably carry my grandma to a decent match.
Masters wasn't all that interesting or great, so even if they didn't fire him, I doubt he'd have gone past Heat/jobbing on RAW.
The Divas are useless but at least the fans do seem to care about them (or their boobs)
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