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Post by spicyranch on Mar 26, 2008 1:39:07 GMT -5
Larry was never a Legend throughout his whole career. I mean I know he was a "heel", but just yelling at people saying you are a Legend and hitting people with numbchucks doesn't make you anything.
Can anyone prove me wrong? Actually I hope you can so I can see what Larry did in his career that can justify his "Legend" stance, besides him calling himself a Legend.
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Post by dsriggs on Mar 26, 2008 1:51:11 GMT -5
WHAT?!? In his 35 GLOROIOUS YEARS in the business, nobody... NOBODY knew how to play the ol' Human Chess like Mr. Zbyszko. To even ask the question makes a mockery of this board, and is an embarassment to all who post within! ...just joking, buddy ;D But yeah, that 'legend' thing, it's a gimmick. Just like Isaac Yankem wasn't a real dentist, Larry wasn't a REAL legend.
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Post by Gill-Man on Mar 26, 2008 1:51:13 GMT -5
Self-Proclaimed Living Legend would be a better name I guess
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Post by spicyranch on Mar 26, 2008 1:54:28 GMT -5
Kinda stupid how WCW, on top of the wrestling world, when he was commentating were calling him "The Living Legend", agreed?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 26, 2008 1:56:23 GMT -5
Kinda stupid how WCW, on top of the wrestling world, when he was commentating were calling him "The Living Legend", agreed? hey if the biggest wrestling company in the world at the time keeps saying it and he's had a long successful career, yeah people will eventually believe it.
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Post by TripleMerc on Mar 26, 2008 1:59:56 GMT -5
Larry who, now?
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Mar 26, 2008 2:03:14 GMT -5
Short story. Bruno Sammartino was billed as "The Living Legend" Bruno Sammartino. So, when Larry Z turned on his mentor in 1980, he started calling himself "The Living Legend". It was a way to get heat, that was just part of the storyline/Larry's new gimmick, and Larry called himself that from there on out.
It's like Bret Hart calling himself "The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be (TM)"...it was just part of his whole schtick, devised by he and Vince around 1993-94 to make little kids believe that Bret was the best in the world, after Hogan, Piper, Andre, Warrior, Sid, Savage, Flair, and the rest of the then-recent WrestleMania headliners weren't around so much. A catchphrase, not to be taken as gospel, though some do, and some are just annoyed by it. Or like HBK calling himself "...The ICON!!!" around 1997, when he'd only been main-eventing for maybe two years....or The Rock calling himself "The Great One" after main-eventing for less than that. Just hype, dude. Wrestlers say stuff to make themselves sound cooler than they are so people will pay money to see them.
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Post by spicyranch on Mar 26, 2008 2:29:30 GMT -5
Short story. Bruno Sammartino was billed as "The Living Legend" Bruno Sammartino. So, when Larry Z turned on his mentor in 1980, he started calling himself "The Living Legend". It was a way to get heat, that was just part of the storyline/Larry's new gimmick, and Larry called himself that from there on out. It's like Bret Hart calling himself "The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be (TM)"...it was just part of his whole schtick, devised by he and Vince around 1993-94 to make little kids believe that Bret was the best in the world, after Hogan, Piper, Andre, Warrior, Sid, Savage, Flair, and the rest of the then-recent WrestleMania headliners weren't around so much. A catchphrase, not to be taken as gospel, though some do, and some are just annoyed by it. Or like HBK calling himself "...The ICON!!!" around 1997, when he'd only been main-eventing for maybe two years....or The Rock calling himself "The Great One" after main-eventing for less than that. Just hype, dude. Wrestlers say stuff to make themselves sound cooler than they are so people will pay money to see them. You missed the point though, none of these performers were out of the lime light for many years, and then come back and use a monicker like that, not to mention Larry was never as close to a star as any of the previous people you have mentioned..
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Post by lmoney215 on Mar 26, 2008 2:38:43 GMT -5
exactly, if you look at his career, he didn't do anything legendary except for the bruno storyline. he won the awa title, but that was at the end of the awa and he also married verne's daughter, which was a precursor to triple H. he was a master staller in the ring and decent golfer. he was the first guy to kick eric bischoff's ass on TV in the ring not offstage like the power bomb he took from nash. his standing figure four was a pretty cool finisher. outside of that, not much of a legend.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Mar 26, 2008 2:53:04 GMT -5
Short story. Bruno Sammartino was billed as "The Living Legend" Bruno Sammartino. So, when Larry Z turned on his mentor in 1980, he started calling himself "The Living Legend". It was a way to get heat, that was just part of the storyline/Larry's new gimmick, and Larry called himself that from there on out. It's like Bret Hart calling himself "The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be (TM)"...it was just part of his whole schtick, devised by he and Vince around 1993-94 to make little kids believe that Bret was the best in the world, after Hogan, Piper, Andre, Warrior, Sid, Savage, Flair, and the rest of the then-recent WrestleMania headliners weren't around so much. A catchphrase, not to be taken as gospel, though some do, and some are just annoyed by it. Or like HBK calling himself "...The ICON!!!" around 1997, when he'd only been main-eventing for maybe two years....or The Rock calling himself "The Great One" after main-eventing for less than that. Just hype, dude. Wrestlers say stuff to make themselves sound cooler than they are so people will pay money to see them. You missed the point though, none of these performers were out of the lime light for many years, and then come back and use a monicker like that, not to mention Larry was never as close to a star as any of the previous people you have mentioned.. No, you missed the point. I don't think anybody really thought Larry was a legend, that was just something he said. I didn't believe Bret Hart when he said he was "The Best There Is...", didn't believe HBK when he called himself "The Icon" while headlining a company getting killed in the TV ratings. Larry Z used "The Living Legend" like those guys, and like Savage used "The Macho Man" and Flair used "The Nature Boy". Just a moniker, dude. This is like starting a thread stating, "I don't really believe Randy Savage was all THAT macho". Just a nickname. And Larry Z called himself "The Living Legend" when he was in WWWF, on TBS, in the AWA, in WCW...and worked from 1982-through whenever he got fired from announcing Nitro, so I don't know when he was ever really out of the limelight. The guy was always employed.
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Post by willywonka666 on Mar 26, 2008 7:09:11 GMT -5
I'd call him a legend if I met him-He got great heel heat with that
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Post by biafra on Mar 26, 2008 7:16:32 GMT -5
The fact that he is STILL ticking people off with it means he was a fantastic heel.
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Post by Mac on Mar 26, 2008 7:42:59 GMT -5
Larry Zyqbyszsksizkoe Is THE Living Legend.
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Post by acressl on Mar 26, 2008 8:49:19 GMT -5
I hated Larry Z so much it hurt deep inside. I never understood what he did to where it needed to be put in my face so very often. Looking back, it's brilliant. That's what they were after. Just a self absorbed asshole old timer that never stopped talking. Ever.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Mar 26, 2008 9:02:40 GMT -5
STINK has joined the NEW WORLD ODOR
Oh Larry, how you've made me laugh.
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Post by Gillberg: 0-175 on Mar 26, 2008 9:41:37 GMT -5
You missed the point though, none of these performers were out of the lime light for many years, and then come back and use a monicker like that, not to mention Larry was never as close to a star as any of the previous people you have mentioned.. No, you missed the point. I don't think anybody really thought Larry was a legend, that was just something he said. I didn't believe Bret Hart when he said he was "The Best There Is...", didn't believe HBK when he called himself "The Icon" while headlining a company getting killed in the TV ratings. Larry Z used "The Living Legend" like those guys, and like Savage used "The Macho Man" and Flair used "The Nature Boy". Just a moniker, dude. This is like starting a thread stating, "I don't really believe Randy Savage was all THAT macho". Just a nickname. And Larry Z called himself "The Living Legend" when he was in WWWF, on TBS, in the AWA, in WCW...and worked from 1982-through whenever he got fired from announcing Nitro, so I don't know when he was ever really out of the limelight. The guy was always employed. I think you're missing the point. Macho Man and The Nature Boy actually made names for themselves. They've earned their nicknames. As did The Rock, and everyone else mentioned. What the f*** did Zbyszko do? He was AWA champ. Aside from that, what for wrestling did he do to deserve a nickname? That's like giving Steve Lombardi the nickname "The best in the world". Bret Hart lived up to his nickname. So did HBK. And most of all, these guys meant something when they added their nickname. For Larry, the nickname did jack shit.
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Post by willywonka666 on Mar 26, 2008 10:06:28 GMT -5
What heel doesn't brag on himself though and call himself The greatest ever?
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Post by BlackJackRobby on Mar 26, 2008 10:10:21 GMT -5
fueding with and beating Bruno makes you the Living Legend end of discussion.
Plus great wrestler, even better heel, that was great on the mic.
That equals Living Legend to me.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Mar 26, 2008 13:28:53 GMT -5
A long time ago, I was in an e-fed with a character who referred to himself as "Rookie Of The Year" from his first match in as a heat getter. Unfortunately, at the year end awards... he was actually awarded "Rookie Of The Year"...which annoyed me because it defeated the purpose of the gimmick. Where HE believes he's the best, but nobody else is supposed to agree with him. After that, I immediately started calling him "Legendary"... just to try to get heat again.
The purpose of the "Living Legend" thing is JUST to get heat.. ONLY to get heat. The only reason Zbyszko was regarded as a face during the NWO period was because everyone who worked for WCW became a face against the NWO.
If has earned his nickname due to the context in which it is used. If he is ever to be regarded in the same breath as Flair, Funk, Sammartino, etc,.... only THEN would his name be un-earned because it was never meant to be legitimate. It was meant to piss people off, and you know what? It did and apparantly still does work.
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Post by The Harbinger of Tragedy on Mar 26, 2008 22:16:21 GMT -5
You missed the point though, none of these performers were out of the lime light for many years, and then come back and use a monicker like that, not to mention Larry was never as close to a star as any of the previous people you have mentioned.. No, you missed the point. I don't think anybody really thought Larry was a legend, that was just something he said. I didn't believe Bret Hart when he said he was "The Best There Is...", didn't believe HBK when he called himself "The Icon" while headlining a company getting killed in the TV ratings. Larry Z used "The Living Legend" like those guys, and like Savage used "The Macho Man" and Flair used "The Nature Boy". Just a moniker, dude. This is like starting a thread stating, "I don't really believe Randy Savage was all THAT macho". Just a nickname. And Larry Z called himself "The Living Legend" when he was in WWWF, on TBS, in the AWA, in WCW...and worked from 1982-through whenever he got fired from announcing Nitro, so I don't know when he was ever really out of the limelight. The guy was always employed. Technically, everything Shawn said was true. He was an Icon in that they used his image for the Degeneration-X pay-per-view posters. He was a showstopper in that he stopped a show as part of kayfabe to sell his post-concussion syndrome in a match against Owen Hart. He was also "the main event" because he was in fact, main eventing But yeah, I agree. Zybysko's Living Legend status was all part of his schtick.
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