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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Mar 24, 2008 20:57:33 GMT -5
*It's not a world title (anymore, at least)
*It's not a title that determines the best wrestler on ECW, considering it's open to all brands at all times
*It's not a weight class title (Such as the Cruiserweight title)
*It's not a title for a specific style of wrestling (Hardcore, for example)
What is it? What does it DO at this point in time?
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Post by joeman on Mar 24, 2008 20:58:33 GMT -5
It had a point when Bobby Lashley held it. He was booked as best in the company and it needed three men just to get the title off of him.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 24, 2008 21:00:11 GMT -5
Just like the US or Intercontinental Title?
They're not any of those things either.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Mar 24, 2008 21:00:56 GMT -5
Yes it is. When Chavo, John Morrison, or Big Show had it, it was a world title. All other times it wasn't. So decreed by the IWC.  It's a battle royal to determine who gets a shot, and as such if someone would win it, they'd go to ECW and thus be the best on ECW. And why should it be? And why should it be? Ok to be fair it probably should be a Hardcore title, HOWEVER, given the travel schedule I don't think they want to put that kind of injury-prone strain on the wrestlers. Sits on Chavo's shoulder while he jobs to Batista. |
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Post by joeman on Mar 24, 2008 21:01:23 GMT -5
Just like the US or Intercontinental Title? They're not any of those things either. This is the reason why I believe they should scrape the mid-card titles. At least in the 80's when Hogan was making movies, they had Valentine main-eventing. |
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Mar 24, 2008 21:01:27 GMT -5
Just like the US or Intercontinental Title? They're not any of those things either. Good point. Alright *The ECW title also does not denote the champion of a geographical area * The ECW title does not represent the best wrestler on the ECW midcard unlike the US or IC titles |
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Mar 24, 2008 21:02:30 GMT -5
*It's not a world title (anymore, at least) ...how? It can't just NOT be a world title any more. It was a world title in the original ECW, it's certainly a world title now. |
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Mar 24, 2008 21:03:27 GMT -5
I don't believe it should be a weight class or 'style' title. I'm just stating it isn't. If the brand switching for the champion is true, then why is Chavo still a SmackDown wrestler? The best wrestler on ECW is apparently not an ECW wrestler. WWE have phased out the term ECW World Championship. The implication is fairly clear. |
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Mar 24, 2008 21:03:36 GMT -5
Just like the US or Intercontinental Title? They're not any of those things either. They both absolutely are world titles. |
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Mar 24, 2008 21:05:12 GMT -5
It's a prop.
But when CM Punk wears it, it's slightly more prestigious than the hardcore title.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Mar 24, 2008 21:05:26 GMT -5
I don't believe it should be a weight class or 'style' title. I'm just stating it isn't. If the brand switching for the champion is true, then why is Chavo still a SmackDown wrestler? The best wrestler on ECW is apparently not an ECW wrestler. WWE have phased out the term ECW World Championship. The implication is fairly clear. No the implication is that they realize Chavo sucks a mountain of ass the size of Big Daddy V as a champion, and thus job him out more than Rey Mysterio and have him hang out with Edge on occasion, somehow making himself look like a bigger hanger on out of desperation than the two guys who dress like Edge. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 24, 2008 21:07:49 GMT -5
Its whatever your imagination wants it to be.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 24, 2008 21:08:46 GMT -5
*It's not a world title (anymore, at least) ...how? It can't just NOT be a world title any more. It was a world title in the original ECW, it's certainly a world title now. Well, the WWE doesn't call it a World title any more. So I guess it can just not be a World title anymore. |
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Post by mo on Mar 24, 2008 21:09:29 GMT -5
Except how most of the people here talk about how it doesn't mean anything now. Either way it's defended far more than the IC and U.S. titles probably combined, most usually just don't care about the people defending it. |
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Post by Captain Wonderful on Mar 24, 2008 21:09:39 GMT -5
...how? It can't just NOT be a world title any more. It was a world title in the original ECW, it's certainly a world title now. Well, the WWE doesn't call it a World title any more. So I guess it can just not be a World title anymore. You can't go back in time and have a title NOT reach "world" status. That's what it is, a status, not just something you CALL it. |
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Mar 24, 2008 21:13:02 GMT -5
It's impossible to lose status? If something reaches a 'status' it can never go down? Only up or stationary?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 24, 2008 21:14:08 GMT -5
The last time it meant a damn thing was when Big Show was champion.
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Post by joeman on Mar 24, 2008 21:15:12 GMT -5
If that is so, then why was Lashley pushed harder than Batista when he was WHC champ?
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Post by Ace Diamond on Mar 24, 2008 21:16:38 GMT -5
Except how most of the people here talk about how it doesn't mean anything now. Oh so all those people saying "finally, Chavo has won a world title" weren't actually saying that then. Oh wait, they were. After spending months saying "the ECW title is not a world title" they immediately flip-flopped decision because it wasn't on Punk anymore. |
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Post by James McCloud IS John Godot on Mar 24, 2008 21:18:06 GMT -5
It seems the position of the ECW title as a world title is more controversial than I had previously imagined it to be here.
Very well!
So, now it's some sort of floating world championship for mid-carders? A world title which does not qualify a wrestler to claim he is the best in the world?
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