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Post by The Immoral One on May 26, 2008 20:58:01 GMT -5
First CAW-dy Rhodes now Dibiase JR. Why must they all be so generic. Generic tights usually with lame tribal one them, all clean cut. This Dibiase looks exactly like Orton when he first debuted. Even The Smith kid is generic. Why cant they have gimmicks? Or a unique outfit?
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Post by greeby on May 26, 2008 21:04:07 GMT -5
Well, I was gonna mention Natalya but she's third generation
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Post by EmptyEYE DUNNOOOOOOOOO on May 26, 2008 21:05:17 GMT -5
I seem to remember what little I've seen of pre-WWF Dibiase Sr. being rather generic as well. Give Jr. time.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 26, 2008 21:05:31 GMT -5
Well, I was gonna mention Natalya but she's third generation Ted Jr. is 3 rd generation as well (RKO as well). |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2008 21:05:33 GMT -5
because they are made out to be like their parents, who by todays standards were somewat generic
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Post by Red Impact on May 26, 2008 21:11:24 GMT -5
 I spit in the face of people who say I'm generic...Seriously though, it's because they aren't willing to work on a gimmick other than cashing in on their father's fame (or what creative thinks is fame). Those that they do, are fine. But I remember when Rhodes debuted. Every promo contained the words "My father, Dusty Rhodes!" |
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Post by mrjl on May 26, 2008 21:12:36 GMT -5
First CAW-dy Rhodes now Dibiase JR. Why must they all be so generic. Generic tights usually with lame tribal one them, all clean cut. This Dibiase looks exactly like Orton when he first debuted. Even The Smith kid is generic. Why cant they have gimmicks? Or a unique outfit? Well, I'd say Dibiase does. But take a look at the old photos of the Bulldogs tag team. They looked pretty generic. Often one color tights. In the ring, Cowboy Bob must have been fairly generic looking with frizzy hair like many and ordinary trunks, without his vest or hat that he'd wear to the ring. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 26, 2008 21:14:00 GMT -5
Well, I didn't see it but by the sounds of things Ted Jr. atleast has a gimmick
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 26, 2008 21:17:54 GMT -5
Ted Jr. is hundreds of times more charismatic the CAWdy.
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Post by rrm15 on May 26, 2008 21:28:32 GMT -5
Ted Jr. is hundreds of times more charismatic the CAWdy. ...not really. Cody actually comes across well on the mic. Dibiase Jr. was awkward and generic. |
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Post by hedonismbot on May 26, 2008 21:30:29 GMT -5
Every second generation wrestler should have a David Flair type Titantron.
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 26, 2008 21:35:58 GMT -5
It's an interesting topic of discussion. There are a whole bunch of children and grandchildren of wrestlers in WWE right now.
Carlito - Carlos Colon
Randy Orton - Bob Orton Jr./Bob Orton Sr.
Umaga - Afa/Siki as uncles
DH Smith - British Bulldog/Stu Hart
Cody Rhodes - Dusty Rhodes
Ted Dibiase Jr. - Ted Dibiase Sr./Iron Mike Dibiase
Mike Dibiase - Ted Dibiase Sr./Iron Mike Dibiase (likely who's going to be brought in as a tag team partner)
Natalya Neidhart - Jim Neidhart/Stu Hart
Deuce - Jimmy Snuka
Jesse - Terry Gordy
Chavo Guerrero - Chavo Guerrero Sr/Gory Guerrero
There's probably more. Usually the 2nd or 3rd generation wrestlers end up being the best ones, because they have it in their family. Also, Mr. Perfect's kids, Amy and Joe are in developmental right now.
I think like, maybe it is better to debut guys with new characters and not focus on their family, like Carlito did, and Jesse and Deuce are doing now as well.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on May 26, 2008 21:37:05 GMT -5
Jesse? Deuce? Edit: beat to it  |
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 26, 2008 21:38:43 GMT -5
Ted Jr. is hundreds of times more charismatic the CAWdy. ...not really. Cody actually comes across well on the mic. Dibiase Jr. was awkward and generic. Don't think so? I don't know, Rhodes just lacks something, but I suppose maybe DiBiase lacks it too. |
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Post by tombstoned on May 26, 2008 21:45:12 GMT -5
PWInsider has in their headline for his appearance on RAW that DiBiase is third generation. Orton is third generation as well.
WWE are probably hoping that they get over exactly as they debuted. Without a gimmick other than being someone's kid/relative.
Why?
They're lazy is my guess. Or maybe they figure if they go to the well with it enough times it'll work sooner or later.
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Post by The Immoral One on May 26, 2008 21:48:51 GMT -5
Orton couldnt get over with that gimmick either...as bland and generic. Hell....even Cena debuted as Mr.Bland. Generic music, generic outfit. What happened to the days of vignettes hyping someone up?
Imagine if they would've had DiBiase Jr. promos living off his dads money. Driving in Bentleys, sipping champagne in a hot tub, training with the finest instructors. Don't you think this would of helped him immensly? Basically give him the Roode gimmick....better yet, make him a socialite....the male Paris Hilton.
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Post by mrjl on May 26, 2008 21:50:45 GMT -5
PWInsider has in their headline for his appearance on RAW that DiBiase is third generation. Orton is third generation as well. WWE are probably hoping that they get over exactly as they debuted. Without a gimmick other than being someone's kid/relative. Why? They're lazy is my guess. Or maybe they figure if they go to the well with it enough times it'll work sooner or later. Or maybe they figure it's a natural gimmick, or maybe they figure that in this era of smarks that if they don't reveal it that the fans will mostly crap all over it and call them on it. |
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Post by mrjl on May 26, 2008 21:52:28 GMT -5
It's an interesting topic of discussion. There are a whole bunch of children and grandchildren of wrestlers in WWE right now. Carlito - Carlos Colon Randy Orton - Bob Orton Jr./Bob Orton Sr. Umaga - Afa/Siki as uncles DH Smith - British Bulldog/Stu Hart Cody Rhodes - Dusty Rhodes Ted Dibiase Jr. - Ted Dibiase Sr./Iron Mike Dibiase Mike Dibiase - Ted Dibiase Sr./Iron Mike Dibiase (likely who's going to be brought in as a tag team partner) Natalya Neidhart - Jim Neidhart/Stu Hart Deuce - Jimmy Snuka Jesse - Terry Gordy Chavo Guerrero - Chavo Guerrero Sr/Gory Guerrero There's probably more. Usually the 2nd or 3rd generation wrestlers end up being the best ones, because they have it in their family. Also, Mr. Perfect's kids, Amy and Joe are in developmental right now. I think like, maybe it is better to debut guys with new characters and not focus on their family, like Carlito did, and Jesse and Deuce are doing now as well. I don't think Mike's under contract. |
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Post by PTBartman on May 26, 2008 21:59:45 GMT -5
It's an interesting topic of discussion. There are a whole bunch of children and grandchildren of wrestlers in WWE right now. Carlito - Carlos Colon Randy Orton - Bob Orton Jr./Bob Orton Sr. Umaga - Afa/Siki as uncles DH Smith - British Bulldog/Stu Hart Cody Rhodes - Dusty Rhodes Ted Dibiase Jr. - Ted Dibiase Sr./Iron Mike Dibiase Mike Dibiase - Ted Dibiase Sr./Iron Mike Dibiase (likely who's going to be brought in as a tag team partner) Natalya Neidhart - Jim Neidhart/Stu Hart Deuce - Jimmy Snuka Jesse - Terry Gordy Chavo Guerrero - Chavo Guerrero Sr/Gory Guerrero There's probably more. Usually the 2nd or 3rd generation wrestlers end up being the best ones, because they have it in their family. Also, Mr. Perfect's kids, Amy and Joe are in developmental right now. I think like, maybe it is better to debut guys with new characters and not focus on their family, like Carlito did, and Jesse and Deuce are doing now as well. Trevor Murdoch? Rey Mysterio? |
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Post by canDELjak on May 26, 2008 22:01:18 GMT -5
Orton couldnt get over with that gimmick either...as bland and generic. Hell....even Cena debuted as Mr.Bland. Generic music, generic outfit. What happened to the days of vignettes hyping someone up? Imagine if they would've had DiBiase Jr. promos living off his dads money. Driving in Bentleys, sipping champagne in a hot tub, training with the finest instructors. Don't you think this would of helped him immensly? Basically give him the Roode gimmick....better yet, make him a socialite....the male Paris Hilton. That's a great idea. And they made no mention of when he was going to wrestle or show up, didn't they? So maybe we'll get vignettes they just needed to beat us over the head by having Million $ Man come out and say, "This is my kid!" |
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