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Post by willywonka666 on Jul 29, 2008 9:15:21 GMT -5
So after Kurt died this phrase was used a lot, and for the short time he was well known(about 3 years) he and Nirvana were apart of a huge change in the music scene and pop culture. Seemingly overnight things went from happy to gloomy, clothes changed, attitudes changed and it was a whole different ballgame.
Kurt downplayed it all(it wouldn't have been right if he agreed with it) but what do you think?
It was a short time, but a lot of major moments are just that-and their impact is longer lasting.
Of course the European music invasion of the mid to late 90's changed things too, but I digress
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Post by Batman on Jul 29, 2008 9:20:18 GMT -5
While there were a lot of depressed and disillusioned teenagers and young adults at that time, he was way more depressed and way more disillusioned, so I don't think it is fair to call him the spokesperson of a generation.
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Post by icansleep on Jul 29, 2008 9:21:17 GMT -5
There are nights when I awake in a cold sweat wishing you were still here Kurt. I miss you.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jul 29, 2008 9:29:04 GMT -5
If he led more kids to be drugged up, suicidal losers...then, yes. Otherwise I wouldn't want a guy like him to be spokesperson for me.
Hell if any "grunge" singer should be a spokesperson from the early 90's grunge era, it should be Eddie Vedder.
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Post by jamofpearls on Jul 29, 2008 9:45:24 GMT -5
If he led more kids to be drugged up, suicidal losers...then, yes. Otherwise I wouldn't want a guy like him to be spokesperson for me. Hell if any "grunge" singer should be a spokesperson from the early 90's grunge era, it should be Eddie Vedder. HELL f***IN YEAH! I endorse this post 150%
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Post by erisi236 on Jul 29, 2008 9:49:53 GMT -5
Jerry Cantrell and Layne Staley were my spokesmen.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 29, 2008 9:57:19 GMT -5
I never got all the hero worship for a pants-wetting suicide case with stomach cramps.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jul 29, 2008 9:57:22 GMT -5
If he led more kids to be drugged up, suicidal losers...then, yes. Otherwise I wouldn't want a guy like him to be spokesperson for me. Hell if any "grunge" singer should be a spokesperson from the early 90's grunge era, it should be Eddie Vedder. ok, this isn't about how he lived or died, we're not judging here
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Post by jamofpearls on Jul 29, 2008 10:02:02 GMT -5
If he led more kids to be drugged up, suicidal losers...then, yes. Otherwise I wouldn't want a guy like him to be spokesperson for me. Hell if any "grunge" singer should be a spokesperson from the early 90's grunge era, it should be Eddie Vedder. ok, this isn't about how he lived or died, we're not judging here Well, are we strictly talking his music being the voice? Cause if not, then how someone lived and died does speak volumes about them. In which people say he's the voice of my generation...then i have to disagree w/ them.
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Post by The"threadicidal"bristolspapa on Jul 29, 2008 10:03:56 GMT -5
If he led more kids to be drugged up, suicidal losers...then, yes. Otherwise I wouldn't want a guy like him to be spokesperson for me. Hell if any "grunge" singer should be a spokesperson from the early 90's grunge era, it should be Eddie Vedder. ok, this isn't about how he lived or died, we're not judging here But that's what a spokesperson is. You are the lens through which people see what you represent. If you are saying yes, then you have to take the good with the bad. Take Kobe Bryant, it's not like Sprite could say "Forget that alleged rape thing, and just look at the basketball." A spokesperson plays that role in voice and action.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Jul 29, 2008 10:20:04 GMT -5
No. His music spoke to Generation Xers as they were going through their later adolescence. He may have spoke to his age group, but that generation is now hauling chidlren around in minivans lamenting how they spent their youth being depressed (The Simpsons Commentaries: Homerpalooza) To be a voice of your generation, you actually have to live through it.
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Jul 29, 2008 10:20:53 GMT -5
I was a bit too young for the whole grunge craze in the early 90s, and I didn't get into Nirvana until a year or so after he died. And seeing as how I'm born in '83, I'm not a part of Generation X either, so I guess he never was and never will be a spokesman for MY generation.
By the way, what is the generation after generation x called? is it Y?
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Post by jamofpearls on Jul 29, 2008 10:23:15 GMT -5
By the way, what is the generation after generation x called? is it Y? actually, it is.
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Jul 29, 2008 10:28:16 GMT -5
Then who is the spokesperson for Generation Y? It's probably someone lame, like Britney... or Backstreet Boys
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Post by jamofpearls on Jul 29, 2008 10:29:35 GMT -5
Then who is the spokesperson for Generation Y? It's probably someone lame, like Britney... or Backstreet Boys Ask rolling stone magazine. They decided Cobain for my gen.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 29, 2008 10:31:03 GMT -5
The only good to come out of Nirvana was Dave Grohl.
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Post by jamofpearls on Jul 29, 2008 10:46:51 GMT -5
The only good to come out of Nirvana was Dave Grohl. lets not forget Weird Al's "smells like Nirvana"
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jul 29, 2008 10:55:57 GMT -5
Nirvana was an institution of its time.
I really can't explain why... the only explanation I'll offer is "you had to be there". Kurt Cobain was a below average singer who wrote lyrics that even Scott Steiner couldn't understand, and their songs were decent -- but not particularly amazing. Yet in spite of this, Nirvana as a band was in the right place at the right time, and they were key in sparking the new era of music. In my opinion "Nevermind" is one of my favorite CD's ever, not so much because of the music, but because of the memories it invokes.
I think Nirvana went downhill after Cobain's death where it seems a new Nirvana CD was released every year mainly to help Courtney Love get rich, but that's another issue.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 29, 2008 11:14:19 GMT -5
Then who is the spokesperson for Generation Y? It's probably someone lame, like Britney... or Backstreet Boys 95-2005? I discussed this recently and we came up with Tyler Durden. I'm still annoyed at that, we're the only generation with a fictional figurehead, this decade doesn't even have a proper name.
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Post by Brother Coyote on Jul 29, 2008 11:16:01 GMT -5
I hated Nirvana, when everyone else in my age group was listening to nirvana and digging grunge I was into bad religion, gwar and dean martin.
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