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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 10, 2008 16:10:37 GMT -5
Edge sucks as a heel. He sucked as a face too. He's only gotten any good recently. I just wish he'd quit finishing with his "Running hug of doom". His current tweener run should be fun. Edge sucks as a heel? Are we watching the same Edge? The guy's been the best heel in the WWE since the middle of 2005.
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Post by shamana on Aug 10, 2008 17:04:23 GMT -5
Can somebody youtube it? I was out on Friday, so I don't know what happened. Well, I just watched it on youtube. Smackdown from 08/08/08, right? Edit: BTW, I have had no problems with face Edge, imo. Maybe less... edgy, but what can you expect from a face?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 10, 2008 17:38:00 GMT -5
Randy Orton and Edge can never be faces again, they are brilliant heels and just don't work as faces (see both mens face runs in 2004) Re: Orton (this may be a rant) I'd like to point at the 17-2 handicapped match from a few months back as proof it can be done, if handled correctly. And let me get this out there: I really dont understand how people can blame Orton himself for his 2004 face run. Answer me these questions: Where was the build? The guy was the hottest heel in the company when it happened. Then they do this complete hotshot of a turn with N-O build whatsoever. It's like...."ok, Randy's a face. you guys forget all of the terrible things he's done over the last year plus" Why were we supposed to cheer for Randy initially? I know, I know. Evolution turned on him, that still doesnt exactly make Randy a redeemable face, now does it? Did they book him strongly as champ? That's a no. He was more or less Hunter's bitch during his whole reign. I remember a Raw where Evolution came after Randy, and Orton FLED into the crowd. Now, yeah logicially it was a smart move, but in terms of traditional babyfaces, he should have never ran off like a coward. He never had any chance to get momentum. Hunter beat him within a month, and he was booked halfhearedly after that, before they abandoned him in favor of Big Dave. (Ive made this point before, but Ill repeat it. Had they booked Orton's face turn anywhere as good as they did with Batista, Orton would have been hugely over
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 10, 2008 18:11:37 GMT -5
There wasn't even really a Randy face turn per se, it just became, ok the really bad guys he was hanging with beat him up and kicked him out of their group, so you should cheer him now. A week before he was insulting the fans with that brilliant "what did you do at 24 ( I think that was the age) speech" and generally being a major douche. Then he wins the title and his other heel buddies beat the piss outta him and that was the sole motivation for him being 'face'. That didn't make him look like a heroic guy who saw the light and such, it made him look like a loser bad guy that even his bad guy friends disliked now.
It all went south from there.
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Post by Ralnathane on Aug 10, 2008 18:30:54 GMT -5
Edge is a great heel, but is also great as a face... either he will stay a heel after the match with taker, or he will end up being a face the way Foley became one after taking a hell of a beating and not quitting like Mankind back in '98.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Aug 10, 2008 22:26:05 GMT -5
I viewed it more as the rest of la familia becoming faces by default. I like psycho Edge but no way should he be a face. I'd like to see him into a Joker type character.
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Post by Topher is Human on Aug 11, 2008 9:40:53 GMT -5
All I know is he turned even more awesome.
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Post by DeuceDominoMark on Aug 11, 2008 10:38:21 GMT -5
I missed SD on Friday, but just watched the segment on youtube. GREAT stuff!! Is it wrong that I'm rooting for Edge in HIAC? Seriously, every time I see Taker from now on, I'm just going to remember how much McCool annoys and that he's to blame.
On that note... Whenever I see Triple H as a "funny" face character, all I see is Wrestling With Shadows when Julie Hart made him her bitch. He's not witty unless his wife has already written him a snappy comeback. Perhaps that's why it's forbidden to shoot on him, I just don't buy it. Personally, I like him better as the "I think I'm better than the world" heel. At least he's being honest with us, then.
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Post by shamana on Aug 11, 2008 13:54:11 GMT -5
I missed SD on Friday, but just watched the segment on youtube. GREAT stuff!! Is it wrong that I'm rooting for Edge in HIAC? He's awesome. It's never wrong to cheer for awesome His WM and Backlash matches with the Taker have been pretty impressive so it's high time he gets a clean win at some point. I'm not sure it will come at HiaC, but you never know.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Aug 11, 2008 17:10:29 GMT -5
Anyone else get the feeling Edge watched The Dark Knight recently? He even added the licking of the lips to his Joker impression. It was awesome but it really reminded me of Ledger's Joker. I was going to start a thread about this. I loved Ledger as the Joker, but I seriously think Edge's acting right now is right up on that same level. If not better, considering his has to be performed live in one take.
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