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Post by Silent Brad on Dec 13, 2008 14:44:31 GMT -5
I was thinking today about some big movies that had big plot holes.
-Back to the Future Marty goes back and saves himself by making his parents fall in love, but as soon as he leaves, everybody forgets he was ever there. Nobody notices that a successful clothing line is named after him. Nobody notices that Chuck Berry puts out a song that sounds awfully familiar to the one Marty sang at the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance. Nobody notices when Marty's mom has a kid that looks just like him.
-Citizen Kane Nobody was around to hear him say "Rosebud".
-Empire Strikes Back Luke goes to be trained by Yoda. While this is happening, The Millennium Falcon is being chased to Cloud City. When they get there, they are captured and Luke has finished his training. Now either Luke was trained in an afternoon and become a Jedi is easier than becoming a cub scout, or they cut out some scenes featuring starvation and debates of when they're going to eat Chewbacca.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 13, 2008 14:56:52 GMT -5
-Empire Strikes Back Luke goes to be trained by Yoda. While this is happening, The Millennium Falcon is being chased to Cloud City. When they get there, they are captured and Luke has finished his training. Now either Luke was trained in an afternoon and become a Jedi is easier than becoming a cub scout, or they cut out some scenes featuring starvation and debates of when they're going to eat Chewbacca. Apparently you missed the part where Yoda was yelling at him because he had to complete his training but he chose to go save his friends instead.
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Post by Silent Brad on Dec 13, 2008 15:04:46 GMT -5
-Empire Strikes Back Luke goes to be trained by Yoda. While this is happening, The Millennium Falcon is being chased to Cloud City. When they get there, they are captured and Luke has finished his training. Now either Luke was trained in an afternoon and become a Jedi is easier than becoming a cub scout, or they cut out some scenes featuring starvation and debates of when they're going to eat Chewbacca. Apparently you missed the part where Yoda was yelling at him because he had to complete his training but he chose to go save his friends instead. He does, but when Luke returns in Jedi to complete his training, Yoda says he has learned all that he needed to learn and his final test is to defeat Vader. That's like the final of your driving test being to win the Indy 500.
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Dec 13, 2008 15:07:48 GMT -5
In The Dark Knight, when the finally capture the Joker and they're trying to ID him but can't, they do everything--they run his prints, check his clothes for the manufacturer, they probably even check his fecal matter for dietary patterns.
They do absolutely everything...except take his makeup off.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 13, 2008 15:12:19 GMT -5
Ben Kenobi not recognising C3P0, senile old fool.
I don't know how the first humans got out of the Matrix although it may have been explained in the sequels (I have no desire to watch them again).
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Post by Hidden Jake on Dec 13, 2008 15:18:59 GMT -5
Ben Kenobi not recognising C3P0, senile old fool. He may of recoginized him but didn't want Luke finding out what his father really was.
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Post by erisi236 on Dec 13, 2008 15:23:27 GMT -5
Did C3PO clearly identified himself to Kenobi? There's lots of protocol droids out there after all.
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Post by Michael Coello on Dec 13, 2008 15:26:45 GMT -5
I was thinking today about some big movies that had big plot holes. -Back to the Future Marty goes back and saves himself by making his parents fall in love, but as soon as he leaves, everybody forgets he was ever there. Nobody notices that a successful clothing line is named after him. Nobody notices that Chuck Berry puts out a song that sounds awfully familiar to the one Marty sang at the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance. Nobody notices when Marty's mom has a kid that looks just like him. -Citizen Kane Nobody was around to hear him say "Rosebud". -Empire Strikes Back Luke goes to be trained by Yoda. While this is happening, The Millennium Falcon is being chased to Cloud City. When they get there, they are captured and Luke has finished his training. Now either Luke was trained in an afternoon and become a Jedi is easier than becoming a cub scout, or they cut out some scenes featuring starvation and debates of when they're going to eat Chewbacca. You were thinking = You were reading the article on CRACKED about it. You're a phony!
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Post by a1TheEnigma1a on Dec 13, 2008 15:27:20 GMT -5
In The Dark Knight, when the finally capture the Joker and they're trying to ID him but can't, they do everything--they run his prints, check his clothes for the manufacturer, they probably even check his fecal matter for dietary patterns. They do absolutely everything...except take his makeup off. Isn't that the whole point. The fact that they can't ID him, there is no record of who he is etc?
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Post by Silent Brad on Dec 13, 2008 15:35:54 GMT -5
I was thinking today about some big movies that had big plot holes. -Back to the Future Marty goes back and saves himself by making his parents fall in love, but as soon as he leaves, everybody forgets he was ever there. Nobody notices that a successful clothing line is named after him. Nobody notices that Chuck Berry puts out a song that sounds awfully familiar to the one Marty sang at the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance. Nobody notices when Marty's mom has a kid that looks just like him. -Citizen Kane Nobody was around to hear him say "Rosebud". -Empire Strikes Back Luke goes to be trained by Yoda. While this is happening, The Millennium Falcon is being chased to Cloud City. When they get there, they are captured and Luke has finished his training. Now either Luke was trained in an afternoon and become a Jedi is easier than becoming a cub scout, or they cut out some scenes featuring starvation and debates of when they're going to eat Chewbacca. You were thinking = You were reading the article on CRACKED about it. You're a phony! awww. you caught me. for anybody who wants to check it out: www.cracked.com/article_16625_8-classic-movies-that-got-away-with-gaping-plot-holes.html
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 13, 2008 15:36:16 GMT -5
In The Dark Knight, when the finally capture the Joker and they're trying to ID him but can't, they do everything--they run his prints, check his clothes for the manufacturer, they probably even check his fecal matter for dietary patterns. They do absolutely everything...except take his makeup off. Isn't that the whole point. The fact that they can't ID him, there is no record of who he is etc? That is the whole point, but what he meant is that if they took off his make-up, they could dig through mugshots and try to find a match. In order to fully say that they can't find a positive ID, they should have taken a good look at his face. Speaking of Batman, I've never liked how in Batman Begins, after Alfred saves Bruce when Wayne Manor is burning down, Alfred looks at a stab wound in Bruce's ribs and gets a concerned look on his face. The reason I don't like this is because the injury never becomes relevant later. It's just there and then forgotten. It's the Johnny Parisi of movie injuries.
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Post by Shy Guy on Dec 13, 2008 15:50:52 GMT -5
not much of a plot hole, but in the sex and the city movie, lilly put's carrie's cell phone in her cupcake purse, and carrie is panicking that she couldn't find her phone.
then, in mexico, carrie has her phone with no explanation how she found it.
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Dec 13, 2008 15:55:08 GMT -5
Isn't that the whole point. The fact that they can't ID him, there is no record of who he is etc? That is the whole point, but what he meant is that if they took off his make-up, they could dig through mugshots and try to find a match. In order to fully say that they can't find a positive ID, they should have taken a good look at his face. Speaking of Batman, I've never liked how in Batman Begins, after Alfred saves Bruce when Wayne Manor is burning down, Alfred looks at a stab wound in Bruce's ribs and gets a concerned look on his face. The reason I don't like this is because the injury never becomes relevant later. It's just there and then forgotten. It's the Johnny Parisi of movie injuries. I think that just may be there to show that Alfred has parental instincts with Bruce--Bruce feels like a son to Alfred just as much as Alfred feels like a father to Bruce.
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Post by Just Jay on Dec 13, 2008 17:28:15 GMT -5
Great! I finally get a chance to say this.
So, in the first Terminator, Reese goes back in time to save Sarah Conor because she will be the mother of John Conor. The man responsible for leading against the robot resistance.
And whom is the father of that child? Reese! During that scene in the car.
BYAGGHHHHH!!! My head hurts!
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 13, 2008 17:37:49 GMT -5
Great! I finally get a chance to say this. So, in the first Terminator, Reese goes back in time to save Sarah Conor because she will be the mother of John Conor. The man responsible for leading against the robot resistance. And whom is the father of that child? Reese! During that scene in the car. BYAGGHHHHH!!! My head hurts! It isn't a plot hole. It is a message saying it was meant to be.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Dec 13, 2008 17:46:51 GMT -5
A Couple from Speed (AKA The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down). Well sounds more like dumb ass hero then plot holes but here you go:
1. Before getting on the Bus there is plenty of time for Jack to shoot out the Buses tires before the bus reaches 50mph(The bomb activates when it reaches that speed). OK I know there would be no movie if that happened but they could done something like Jack tries to shoot out the tires but he misses then crashes his car and looses the gun somehow.
2. In the Subway at the end. The control panel to the train has been damaged so the breaks don't work. So Jack makes a decision to speed the train up. OK why didn't he move the throttle the over way so the train slowed down and stopped. Remember if you lose your brakes in a car you can still stop by taking your foot off the f***ing gas, flooring it is just insane.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Dec 13, 2008 18:00:09 GMT -5
Apparently you missed the part where Yoda was yelling at him because he had to complete his training but he chose to go save his friends instead. He does, but when Luke returns in Jedi to complete his training, Yoda says he has learned all that he needed to learn and his final test is to defeat Vader. That's like the final of your driving test being to win the Indy 500. Just because Yoda didn't teach it didn't mean Luke hadn't learned all he needed to learn. There is a signifiant enough time gap between Cloud City and return to Degobah that Luke had picked up other tools of the trade as well. PLUS, it's no secret that the rebels needed a standout hero, and while Luke wasn't probably ready, Yoda's vote of confidence was the right thing to say, not necessarily the most truthful thing to say. So, with the surge on, and Vader's impending death, Yoda was right in saying Luke was "ready" ... from a certain point-of-view.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Dec 13, 2008 18:12:09 GMT -5
I agree that Luke's training in ESB was short but I don't see why it would have just been an "afternoon". Luke went into hyperspace towards Dagobah as soon as he left Hoth. The others flew around avoiding the Empire for a while before landing in side that giant space slug. They could have been inside the slug for days. Then when they leave they eventually land on the side of one of the Star Destroyers and don't leave until the Empire releases it's trash. They could have been there for a few more days. Then once they get the hyperspace working they head to Cloud City. Just because they are in hyperspace doesn't mean it won't take days still to get there. Who knows how long they were actually there in Cloud City both before and after they were captured and Luke sensed they were in danger. i think we could be looking at a few weeks in all here. I mean it's not like dates come up on the screen at any point in the movie. Kind ofl ike iun LOTR how they seem to travel from one country to the next in one day. You just have to realize that there is time passing that we don't get to see as a viewer or the movie would be months long.
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Post by amsiraK on Dec 13, 2008 18:19:37 GMT -5
I agree that Luke's training in ESB was short but I don't see why it would have just been an "afternoon". Luke went into hyperspace towards Dagobah as soon as he left Hoth. The others flew around avoiding the Empire for a while before landing in side that giant space slug. They could have been inside the slug for days. Then when they leave they eventually land on the side of one of the Star Destroyers and don't leave until the Empire releases it's trash. They could have been there for a few more days. Then once they get the hyperspace working they head to Cloud City. Just because they are in hyperspace doesn't mean it won't take days still to get there. Who knows how long they were actually there in Cloud City both before and after they were captured and Luke sensed they were in danger. i think we could be looking at a few weeks in all here. I mean it's not like dates come up on the screen at any point in the movie. Kind ofl ike iun LOTR how they seem to travel from one country to the next in one day. You just have to realize that there is time passing that we don't get to see as a viewer or the movie would be months long. Good point. Cloud City wasn't exactly around the corner. Though now I've got the mental image of Luke killing time on the trip with the audio book "Idiot's Guide to the Force" to bone up on it.
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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Dec 13, 2008 18:21:02 GMT -5
-Back to the Future Marty goes back and saves himself by making his parents fall in love, but as soon as he leaves, everybody forgets he was ever there. Nobody notices that a successful clothing line is named after him. Nobody notices that Chuck Berry puts out a song that sounds awfully familiar to the one Marty sang at the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance. Nobody notices when Marty's mom has a kid that looks just like him. Well it's not as if Marty was their first son. It's also not as if Marty looked like his teenage self his entire childhood. They probably didn't have any photographs of what "Calvin Klein" either so their memories may have been foggy. What gets me is that Marty tells them that "Marty" would be a good name for a kid or whatever and they then go on to name their second son Marty. Why not their first son? Would have been funny if when get got back to 1985 his other brother was the one with the name "Marty" and Marty now had another name. As for the other stuff I'd say the fact that George McFly published a successful book about how he was visited by Darth Vader a Klingon from the Battlestar Galactica is a bigger plot hole. How could anyone take such a person seriously?
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