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Post by Hassan bin Sober on Dec 14, 2008 13:53:40 GMT -5
I just got to thinking more about Back To The Future 2. Marty was a former time traveler. His life was f***ed because of a car accident in the past. You'd think that he'd get the idea to go back and fix things. That leads me to wonder where Doc and the DeLoreon was in 2015. Did the Doc just up and disappear in 1985 (because he was visiting the future) or did future Marty know where he was?
Also In Part 3 there was all this trouble to get the DeLoreon up to speed (when they didn't have any gas) but there was another time machine. The one the Doc had presumably just put in the old mine shaft. I suppose the simple answer would be that the Doc emptied the tank of gas before he sealed in but I wish they would have just mentioned it or something.
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 14, 2008 14:00:21 GMT -5
Ocean's Eleven -- Where do those daggone flyers come from that are in the bags that are carried out of the vault and into the van?
Clooney and Damon's characters could not have possibly taken them there and there is no room with the contortionist Yen.
They're carried to the van before SWAT appears, which means they would've had to have been in the vault to start with...?
Anyone?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 14, 2008 15:32:35 GMT -5
Ocean's Eleven -- Where do those daggone flyers come from that are in the bags that are carried out of the vault and into the van? Clooney and Damon's characters could not have possibly taken them there and there is no room with the contortionist Yen. They're carried to the van before SWAT appears, which means they would've had to have been in the vault to start with...? Anyone? I watched the special features a couple of years ago to see if they deleted a scene that explained that. They admitted that it was an error.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Dec 14, 2008 15:45:57 GMT -5
At the end of "LOTR: The Return of the King", Sam, overcome with seeing Frodo being destroyed by the corrupting power of the ring, emotionally yells "I can't carry it for you...but I CAN CARRY YOU!!" and then slings Frodo over his shoulders and starts carrying him up the mountain...
....but Sam already carried the ring after Frodo was bitten by the spider and and kidnapped by orcs. Frodo carried the ring for several weeks, if not months, before it started to overtake his soul, all Sam had to do was run up the mountain and chuck it in the lava, which would've taken a half-hour, tops.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 14, 2008 15:54:05 GMT -5
I just got to thinking more about Back To The Future 2. Marty was a former time traveler. His life was snorked because of a car accident in the past. You'd think that he'd get the idea to go back and fix things. That leads me to wonder where Doc and the DeLoreon was in 2015. Did the Doc just up and disappear in 1985 (because he was visiting the future) or did future Marty know where he was? Also In Part 3 there was all this trouble to get the DeLoreon up to speed (when they didn't have any gas) but there was another time machine. The one the Doc had presumably just put in the old mine shaft. I suppose the simple answer would be that the Doc emptied the tank of gas before he sealed in but I wish they would have just mentioned it or something. If you follow the timeline that Marty exists in when he returns (which only lasts for a few minutes) Marty got into that race with Needles after he returns, and the accident happened then. But before that happens, Doc comes back and intercepts Marty to let him know what's happened. If he hadn't come back, more than likely Doc would have never returned and probably would have happy jumping from time period to time period, trying not to interfere with anything. But he felt a need to help Marty after seeing what a nosedive his life took.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 14, 2008 15:55:29 GMT -5
At the end of "LOTR: The Return of the King", Sam, overcome with seeing Frodo being destroyed by the corrupting power of the ring, emotionally yells "I can't carry it for you...but I CAN CARRY YOU!!" and then slings Frodo over his shoulders and starts carrying him up the mountain... ....but Sam already carried the ring after Frodo was bitten by the spider and and kidnapped by orcs. Frodo carried the ring for several weeks, if not months, before it started to overtake his soul, all Sam had to do was run up the mountain and chuck it in the lava, which would've taken a half-hour, tops. I wonder if it had to be Frodo who had to throw the ring into Mt. Doom.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Dec 14, 2008 16:17:45 GMT -5
I don't know if this is a plot hole but it's something that drives me crazy. Why is it that kids never get hurt or die in action movies. A physically fit grown man will miss a jump and fall to his doom while some obnoxious twerp will make the jump just fine on sheer willpower. What? In "Clash of the Titans", Perseus uses the head of Medusa on the Krakken, with people watching the battle... why didn't the people watching also get turned to stone? Nobody knows the exact reason why Medusa turns people to stone, It's largely a curse from the Goddess Athena, and it seems to be a you have to look at her, she has to look at you. My guess is that unless you are close enough to envision both the full beauty and terror of the Gorgon, you won't be turned to stone.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 14, 2008 21:38:36 GMT -5
At the end of "LOTR: The Return of the King", Sam, overcome with seeing Frodo being destroyed by the corrupting power of the ring, emotionally yells "I can't carry it for you...but I CAN CARRY YOU!!" and then slings Frodo over his shoulders and starts carrying him up the mountain... ....but Sam already carried the ring after Frodo was bitten by the spider and and kidnapped by orcs. Frodo carried the ring for several weeks, if not months, before it started to overtake his soul, all Sam had to do was run up the mountain and chuck it in the lava, which would've taken a half-hour, tops. I wonder if it had to be Frodo who had to throw the ring into Mt. Doom. I don't recall if it was covered in the movie or not, but the reason Sam says that line in the book is because Frodo won't let Sam carry the ring and Sam will not try to take it from Frodo to do so.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 15, 2008 1:09:31 GMT -5
In "Clash of the Titans", Perseus uses the head of Medusa on the Krakken, with people watching the battle... why didn't the people watching also get turned to stone? He was holding it in a direction not facing them. There has to be eye contact with the Medusa head. Makes sense... but then it should have been easier to get her head in the first place, by sneaking up behind her. EDIT: Another one (not mine)... how did the T-Rex sneak up on the Raptors in "Jurassic Park"? Whenever it walked, the ground shook (remember the coffee cup ripples?). Heck, how did it even get into the building?
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Post by Paul Servo on Dec 15, 2008 3:06:48 GMT -5
I just got to thinking more about Back To The Future 2. Marty was a former time traveler. His life was snorked because of a car accident in the past. You'd think that he'd get the idea to go back and fix things. That leads me to wonder where Doc and the DeLoreon was in 2015. Did the Doc just up and disappear in 1985 (because he was visiting the future) or did future Marty know where he was?
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Post by chairshotshurthead on Dec 15, 2008 3:23:25 GMT -5
I just got to thinking more about Back To The Future 2. Marty was a former time traveler. His life was snorked because of a car accident in the past. You'd think that he'd get the idea to go back and fix things. That leads me to wonder where Doc and the DeLoreon was in 2015. Did the Doc just up and disappear in 1985 (because he was visiting the future) or did future Marty know where he was? Also In Part 3 there was all this trouble to get the DeLoreon up to speed (when they didn't have any gas) but there was another time machine. The one the Doc had presumably just put in the old mine shaft. I suppose the simple answer would be that the Doc emptied the tank of gas before he sealed in but I wish they would have just mentioned it or something. If you follow the timeline that Marty exists in when he returns (which only lasts for a few minutes) Marty got into that race with Needles after he returns, and the accident happened then. But before that happens, Doc comes back and intercepts Marty to let him know what's happened. If he hadn't come back, more than likely Doc would have never returned and probably would have happy jumping from time period to time period, trying not to interfere with anything. But he felt a need to help Marty after seeing what a nosedive his life took. One other thing with that, in Part 3 I seem to recall that the Delorean was destroyed on the train tracks before the race with Needles took place, so following that logic, even if Marty did decide to race Needles and his future life got ruined because of it, he couldn't have gone back in time to fix it. And on the other Delorean theory, he buried the DeLorean there so that Marty could go home, so if that had never been buried there, Marty never could've gone back into the past to get the doc in the first place.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Dec 15, 2008 10:25:01 GMT -5
Another plot hole from the Terminator movies that, much to my surprise, NO-ONE ever points out:
So, if I understand well (note: I've only seen T2, and I don't remember it very well, so I might be wrong), in the first terminator, the machine is sent to kill Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor, to prevent John from being born and therefore from starting the human resistance. in T2, they send another machine to kill john himself rather than his mother for some reason.
The problem is: had SkyNet's plan worked, John Connor would have never existed in the future, so he would never have started the human resistance, so SkyNet would have no reason to send terminators to kill him or his mother, so none of them would get killed, so John will survive and start the resistance no matter what happens. SkyNet's plan is doomed to fail even if it's a success.
Also, SkyNet's plan doesn't take into consideration the fact that someone ELSE could start the resistance.
I'd expect killer machines that took over the World to come up with more effective ideas.
Stuff like that is the reason why I will never EVER use a time travel storyline in my comics. They are doomed to be riddled with plot holes.
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Post by paulbearer on Dec 18, 2008 23:35:43 GMT -5
Satanic rites of Dracula : if every human dies from the plague then how will he get new blood lol ? 007 OHMSS : Virus Omega causes total infertility in animals......you didn't think you'd be needing food for yourself huh , Blofeld lol 007 MR : how can Drax be sure that all humans will perish during his nerve gas attack , isn't it possible that some could survive & rebel against him ? Masters of Universe : Julie wakes up and her parents are still alive....did the time travel alter time & it's clear that they WERE on Eternia so it wasn't just a dream as Julie has a jewel in her hand which symbolises Eternia.......
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Post by Cela on Dec 18, 2008 23:46:24 GMT -5
Another plot hole from the Terminator movies that, much to my surprise, NO-ONE ever points out: So, if I understand well (note: I've only seen T2, and I don't remember it very well, so I might be wrong), in the first terminator, the machine is sent to kill Sarah Connor, the mother of John Connor, to prevent John from being born and therefore from starting the human resistance. in T2, they send another machine to kill john himself rather than his mother for some reason. The problem is: had SkyNet's plan worked, John Connor would have never existed in the future, so he would never have started the human resistance, so SkyNet would have no reason to send terminators to kill him or his mother, so none of them would get killed, so John will survive and start the resistance no matter what happens. SkyNet's plan is doomed to fail even if it's a success. Also, SkyNet's plan doesn't take into consideration the fact that someone ELSE could start the resistance. I'd expect killer machines that took over the World to come up with more effective ideas. Stuff like that is the reason why I will never EVER use a time travel storyline in my comics. They are doomed to be riddled with plot holes. Why didn't SKYNET send back more than one Terminator in any of the movies? Or why didn't it send its most advanced Terminator in the first one?
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