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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2008 1:35:05 GMT -5
If Edge is banging Maryase, that is one lucky guy. I thought the Miz was...
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Post by shamana on Nov 15, 2008 4:18:27 GMT -5
actually you can do alot to a slice of bread ( sandwich wise ) to make it enjoyable, the same cant be said of McSkeletor. What is in a good sandwich? - bread - other edible stuff, i.e. meat, cheese, veggies, etc. - butter/mayo/margarine/etc - spices. In case of McCool, the other edible stuff would be other female wrestlers (good ones), and the mayo/butter/margarine would be a good plot holding them together. The spices - salt, ketchup etc - would be, hmm, other stuff that makes the crowd like it - maybe gimmicks, special match rules, etc. Now, I admit, McCool isn't a bad bread, as such. Kinda sweet for my tastes, but it could still make the kinda sandwitch that leaves mew wanting more and more, and weight and carotid arteries be damned. As far as breads go, I'm happy. However, imo the McCool slice of bread wants to be the star of the show. She doesn't want a good piece of meat on top of her. She doesn't want you to be savoring the taste of that bacon, or the cheese, or the salami. She doesn't care about the mayo or butter. She thinks she's got it all in herself, that she can do it best without having to work with others, that she's the whole damn sandwich.
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 15, 2008 4:23:58 GMT -5
If Edge is banging Maryase, that is one lucky guy. I thought she was with The Miz?
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Post by MOONDOG on Nov 15, 2008 7:22:58 GMT -5
michelle-"taker baby, the girls wont let me get my hair done" undertaker-tapes fists ;D ;D
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Nov 15, 2008 7:33:40 GMT -5
i don't think mcCool's THAT bad. she's at least trying to act now. she's just like ready salted crisps. yeah, if they're going then i'll enjoy a pack, but no one's favourite flavour is ready salted. same goes for michelle. she's not all that bad, and has had the odd good match, but she's no one's favourite wrestler, whereas maria, natalya etc all have their own followings, which michelle doesn't. hell, brie bella's been around for like a month and she's already more over than michelle. i think everyone's being a tad harsh on her, but at the same time she isn't all that bad, she's just nowhere near as good (or over) as someone in her position should be.
IF this is true, then it's sad that one person should dictate everything in an entire division. and no, this wouldn't make her the female triple h, since triple h, despite what you think of him backstage, actually has the skills and popularity that merit his position, neither of which michelle has, not yet anyway.
that's my view on it all.
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Post by timebomb on Nov 15, 2008 8:12:06 GMT -5
She is OK in the ring but is a terrible seller, bad packaging, weak charisma and magnetism, no promo skills despite being a veteran. That is why she can't get over despite massive pushes. So I would argue she isn't a very successful professional wrestler and has more of a makeup of someone lower on the card.
Theres frankly nothing good happening in the SD divas division. Natalya was build up strong only to turn her into a jabroni when she stood up to Michelle. They built up Maryse for a few months only to take her off tv like a month for standing up to Michelle. The Bellas have been given like ten wins in a row and its gone over like a lead baloon. They play this game of yoyo with Maria overhyping/overpushing only to then unceremoniously job her. Maria has never carried a wrestling push well and should just accept that instead of trying to pass her off as a contender with the end result being back to jobbing.
So whats next? Since Michelle wasn't given a big edited in pop and held onto the submission after the bell her heel tease is alive. More likely than not Michelle will cut some promo saying I have beaten everyone on the roster and such and such. Then Gail Kim or Melina will walk out. So even though Michelle thankfully won't be a babyface she will still be using her power to be the top heel or attempt at tweener and have some long feud with one of those girls probably dropping and then regaining the belt.
Then Maryse and Natalya will be left with low level stuff like feuding with the Bellas and Maria.
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Post by TheKillShot on Nov 15, 2008 8:18:44 GMT -5
I have a theory that Maryse wasn't exactly loving life.
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Post by Bobby Womack on Nov 15, 2008 10:25:35 GMT -5
McCool was trying to teach Natalya, a veteran in pro wrestling, how to wrestle and nNatalya didn't like it. a veteran in pro wrestling? didnt nattie start in stampede in 03? only a year before mccool was signed to wwe? the earliest ive ever heard anyone claim she started (which ive seen nothing to substantiate) is 2000, and even that wouldnt qualify her as a veteran, and the story went something like mccool was showing her how they want things done for tv, and being in the wwe system for around 3 years longer than neidhart who had just made it to tv at the time, im sure she had a much better idea about what they want, people seem to forget that just because you know how to wrestle well it doesnt mean you can show up in wwe and do well, they have a whole system of how they want things done thats nothing like any other promotion, so mccool does have the experience edge on her in that scenario im sorry to say, people need to stop overrating natalya just because shes a member of the overrated sacred cow of wrestling families, shes done absolutely zero that ive seen that makes her anything special
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 15, 2008 10:34:15 GMT -5
Only two Divas have wrestled longer than Natalya - Jillian Hall (ten year veteran) and Mickie James (nine year veteran).
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Post by Above Average on Nov 15, 2008 12:29:24 GMT -5
Only two Divas have wrestled longer than Natalya - Jillian Hall (ten year veteran) and Mickie James (nine year veteran). Isn't Beth a 9 year veteran too?
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Nov 15, 2008 12:32:06 GMT -5
McCool was trying to teach Natalya, a veteran in pro wrestling, how to wrestle and nNatalya didn't like it. a veteran in pro wrestling? didnt nattie start in stampede in 03? only a year before mccool was signed to wwe? the earliest ive ever heard anyone claim she started (which ive seen nothing to substantiate) is 2000, and even that wouldnt qualify her as a veteran, and the story went something like mccool was showing her how they want things done for tv, and being in the wwe system for around 3 years longer than neidhart who had just made it to tv at the time, im sure she had a much better idea about what they want, people seem to forget that just because you know how to wrestle well it doesnt mean you can show up in wwe and do well, they have a whole system of how they want things done thats nothing like any other promotion, so mccool does have the experience edge on her in that scenario im sorry to say, people need to stop overrating natalya just because shes a member of the overrated sacred cow of wrestling families, shes done absolutely zero that ive seen that makes her anything special I'm going to come your job and tell you how to do it and see how you like it. Then, if you get mad, I'll complain to your supervisor. I'm not a fan of WWE womens' wrestling, but I always believe that if someone wants your help, he or she will come to you. If Natalya didn't ask for McCool's advice, then maybe McCool shouldn't have given it.
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 15, 2008 12:37:55 GMT -5
Only two Divas have wrestled longer than Natalya - Jillian Hall (ten year veteran) and Mickie James (nine year veteran). Isn't Beth a 9 year veteran too? Beth's first match was in 2001 - ironically against Mickie James.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Nov 15, 2008 12:45:48 GMT -5
I saw one McCool/Maryse match ever, on ECW a couple of months ago. It was lousy.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 15, 2008 13:00:03 GMT -5
Never liked her. She can't wrestle. True or not, works for me.
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Post by David Otunga: Eternian at Law on Nov 15, 2008 13:11:26 GMT -5
Maybe Maryse and Natalya should hire someone to Nancy Kerrigan McCool.
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Post by Above Average on Nov 15, 2008 14:45:58 GMT -5
Isn't Beth a 9 year veteran too? Beth's first match was in 2001 - ironically against Mickie James. Aha. Cheers. I was going off the reliable sources of Wikipedia. In saying that it did only say she started training in 1999 - didn't specify a date for that first match with Mickie.
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Post by parder on Nov 15, 2008 15:14:54 GMT -5
Although it should be noted that Beth was a very decent amateur wrestler growing up before she went into pro wrestling, which I've been told tends to help when you're learning the basics. Although I think because of her character and size difference with most of the girls she tends to be booked more as a power wrestler. Wikipedia also says Nattie has had amateur and MMA training. Lance Storm also had nothing but good things to say about her when writing about the history of Stampede wrestling, and kind of said WWE hadn't really let her show how much she was capable of yet.
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Post by shamana on Nov 15, 2008 18:07:26 GMT -5
@ parder: indeed. I loved the way she started a match with a snap suplex - a pretty rare move in the women's division overall. Actually, my dream match would be her vs Victoria in a steel cage (as they probably won't let them do HiaC). Best friends, better enemies, and all that
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Post by Corre.222 on Nov 15, 2008 20:36:09 GMT -5
Eve Torres >>>>>>>> everybody
Hopefully this opens up more time for Eve Torres.
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Post by efram on Nov 15, 2008 21:49:08 GMT -5
i believe the rumors about micelle being a total bitch, there has just been way to many rumors now and as the saying goes theres no smoke without fire. michelle was in a feud with natalya which was cut short after their backstage spat and the same happens to maryse. if michelle keeps up her hateful jealous attitude theres going to be no divas for her to feud with, not that any of her fueds were good considering she beat every diva with such ease. i truly despise mcskeletor
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