MrBRulzOK
Wade Wilson
Mr No-Pants Heathen
Something Witty Here.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jan 10, 2009 17:23:46 GMT -5
Seven Thorn... now there's a great indy name for him.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 10, 2009 17:25:43 GMT -5
Seven Thorn... now there's a great indy name for him. Well, his original name was Seven. I think he should go by Fertig. That just sounds like a name a Vampire or some type of creepy person would have.
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Dr. T is an alien
Patti Mayonnaise
Knows when to hold them, knows when to fold them
I've been found out!
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 10, 2009 17:53:48 GMT -5
Im thinking that Hardcore Hollys gonna get canned I don't think they're gonna fire someone in rehab, just because it could cause a backlash where someone says, look they really don't care about there wrestlers staying sober They've fire a few guys while injured, so why not? So long as they still pay for the rehab (like they are doing with a few former employees), they still look good enough about it.
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Steveweiser
Dalek
Mickie Mickie You're So Fine... Hey Mickie!
THE GRAPS
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 10, 2009 18:08:44 GMT -5
They fired Test originally when he was injured.
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rj
Bubba Ho-Tep
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Post by rj on Jan 10, 2009 19:16:35 GMT -5
So the roster looks like this currently?
Main Event: John Cena, Batista, Chris Jericho, JBL, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy, Big Show, Edge, Triple H, Undertaker
Midcard: William Regal, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly, JTG, Kane, Kofi Kingston, Manu, Santino Marella, Shad, Ted DiBiase Jr., Shelton Benjamin, Carlito, Primo, Ezekiel Jackson, Hurricane Helms, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, R-Truth, Scotty Goldman, The Brian Kendrick, Great Khali, Umaga, Vladimir Kozlov, Matt Hardy, The Miz, John Morrison, Chavo Guerrero, Finlay, Jack Swagger, Mark Henry,
Jobbers: Charlie Haas, Dolph Ziggler, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jamie Noble, Mike Knox, Sim Snuka, Curt Hawkins, DH Smith, Festus, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, Funaki, Ryan Braddock, Zack Ryder, Boogeyman, DJ Gabriel, Evan Bourne, Paul Burchill, Ricky Ortiz, Tommy Dreamer
Divas: Beth Phoenix, Candice, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Layla, Melina, Mickie James, Maryse, Brie Bella, Eve, Maria, Michelle McCool, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Victoria, Alicia Fox, Katie Lea Burchill, Tiffany
The main event in 3 years IMO won't have JBL, Mysterio, Michaels, Big Show, Undertaker, Kane although I consider him an upper midcarder nowadays...and perhaps Triple H or Batista if injuries get worse. Who are they going to promote to the main event, Shelton Benjamin?
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jan 10, 2009 19:22:24 GMT -5
So the roster looks like this currently? Main Event: John Cena, Batista, Chris Jericho, JBL, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy, Big Show, Edge, Triple H, Undertaker Midcard: William Regal, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly, JTG, Kane, Kofi Kingston, Manu, Santino Marella, Shad, Ted DiBiase Jr., Shelton Benjamin, Carlito, Primo, Ezekiel Jackson, Hurricane Helms, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, R-Truth, Scotty Goldman, The Brian Kendrick, Great Khali, Umaga, Vladimir Kozlov Jobbers: Charlie Haas, Dolph Ziggler, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Jamie Noble, Mike Knox, Sim Snuka, Curt Hawkins, DH Smith, Festus, Jesse, Jimmy Wang Yang, Funaki, Ryan Braddock, Zack Ryder Divas: Beth Phoenix, Candice, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Layla, Melina, Mickie James, Maryse, Brie Bella, Eve, Maria, Michelle McCool, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Victoria The main event in 3 years IMO won't have JBL, Mysterio, Michaels, Big Show, Undertaker, Kane although I consider him an upper midcarder nowadays...and perhaps Triple H or Batista if injuries get worse. Who are they going to promote to the main event, Shelton Benjamin? Jeff Hardy assuming he keeps his nose clean, Punk, Edge, Cena, Orton, Jericho, Matt Hardy, possibly Swagger if he gets over enough, and possibly Kofi and Cody Rhodes.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jan 10, 2009 19:23:31 GMT -5
Plus I don't really consider Mysterio a main eventer, if we did that then Punk should be considered one as well.
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Post by SassovsHart on Jan 10, 2009 19:26:01 GMT -5
^^^ Why do you think Ziggler is a jobber? Looking at what he's done so far ......
He lost his debut to Batista in a pretty competitive match where he got some nice offense in and got to avoid some of his signature moves, beat R-Truth by countout, beat Haas, and was on the losing side in a big 10 man tag against Cena, Mysterio, Cryme Tyme and Kofi but not pinned. He also gets plenty of airtime to do his little handshaking gimmick when he's not wrestling. That's a midcarder, not a jobber to me.
His gimmick is goofy, but they've been treating him on commentary like an up and comer with potential rather than just a goof and they've hardly jobbed him out or anything. I don't get what Scotty Goldman who has just appeared a couple times and jobbed is doing as a midcarder, while Ziggler and Knox are listed as jobbers.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 10, 2009 19:27:33 GMT -5
Mysterio, Punk, Big Show, and Kane all are Upper mid carders. Just because someone is a former world champ doesnt mean they are Main-eventers
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 10, 2009 19:32:02 GMT -5
I'm starting to get concerned about RAW's roster depth. There's only 21 active male wrestlers on the show now (Batista, Ted DiBiase, Jr and Hardcore Holly I think would be deemed inactive at this point). Although Miz and Morrison basically live on RAW now (and so would Bourne probably when he comes back).
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rj
Bubba Ho-Tep
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Post by rj on Jan 10, 2009 19:32:04 GMT -5
^^^ Why do you think Ziggler is a jobber? Looking at what he's done so far ...... I don't watch every week. More casual. Well, Big Show main evented Smackdown this past week.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 10, 2009 19:36:40 GMT -5
^^^ Why do you think Ziggler is a jobber? Looking at what he's done so far ...... I don't watch every week. More casual. Well, Big Show main evented Smackdown this past week. true, but when was the last time he was in a WWE/World title match
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Post by SassovsHart on Jan 10, 2009 19:39:21 GMT -5
I don't watch every week. More casual. Well, Big Show main evented Smackdown this past week. true, but when was the last time he was in a WWE/World title match October.
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Above Average
Wade Wilson
Being Held Down by the Man and Several "Women"
Old School Tope Con Fiveo!!!
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Post by Above Average on Jan 10, 2009 19:39:48 GMT -5
I don't watch every week. More casual. Well, Big Show main evented Smackdown this past week. true, but when was the last time he was in a WWE/World title match October 10th
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Post by Gobbledy Demon on Jan 10, 2009 20:09:34 GMT -5
Evan Bournes a jobber? Seriously?
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Post by BitterAF on Jan 10, 2009 20:45:21 GMT -5
As stated before, Bourne, Ziggler, and Knox aren't jobbers. Scotty Goldman isn't a midcarder. Big Show and Rey aren't main eventers.
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nealo
Unicron
BRING IT BACK!!
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Post by nealo on Jan 10, 2009 21:45:18 GMT -5
D'lo hasnt done much, disapointingly. Val Venis had a long time comin
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 10, 2009 22:20:52 GMT -5
Main Event: John Cena, Batista, Chris Jericho, JBL, Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy, Edge, Triple H, Undertaker Upper Midcard: Kane, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Finlay, Mark Henry, Matt Hardy, Shelton Benjamin, William Regal Midcard: CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly, JTG, Kofi Kingston, Manu, Santino Marella, Shad, Ted DiBiase Jr., Evan Bourne, Carlito, Primo, Ezekiel Jackson, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, R-Truth, The Brian Kendrick, Great Khali, Umaga, Vladimir Kozlov,The Miz, John Morrison, Jack Swagger, Mike Knox Lower Midcard: DJ Gabriel, Ricky Ortiz, Jesse, Festus, Dolph Ziggler, Charlie Haas, Sim Snuka, Tommy Dreamer, Chavo Guerrero, Hurricane Helms, Boogeyman Jobbers: Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Scotty Goldman, Jamie Noble, Curt Hawkins, DH Smith, Jimmy Wang Yang, Funaki, Ryan Braddock, Zack Ryder, Paul Burchill, Divas: Beth Phoenix, Candice, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Layla, Melina, Mickie James, Maryse, Brie Bella, Eve, Maria, Michelle McCool, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Victoria, Alicia Fox, Katie Lea Burchill, Tiffany I changed this up a little to fit my own opinion. Thanks for the work done to list the names down. I added an Upper and Lower midcard to seperate some names. To defend some ideas, Benjamin is an upper midcarder to me because of his US reign and the slow move he's had up the card (Given a lengthy match with Taker where he escaped from finishers is a nice step). Regal's drive to make the IC title more important including the tournament just to face him makes him feel like an upper midcarder. Yes, I'd say that Punk would become one when/if he wins the title. Helms has kind of moved into a regular slot after all his build, so I think he's slipped a bit on the card. Miz and Morrison are very close to Upper Midcard to me. Anyway, I think there are plenty of characters being developed and plenty of people still in FCW being developed.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Jan 10, 2009 22:23:08 GMT -5
Main Event: John Cena, Batista, Chris Jericho, JBL, Randy Orton, Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy, Edge, Triple H, Undertaker Upper Midcard: Kane, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, Finlay, Mark Henry, Matt Hardy, Shelton Benjamin, William Regal Midcard: CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Hardcore Holly, JTG, Kofi Kingston, Manu, Santino Marella, Shad, Ted DiBiase Jr., Evan Bourne, Carlito, Primo, Ezekiel Jackson, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, R-Truth, The Brian Kendrick, Great Khali, Umaga, Vladimir Kozlov,The Miz, John Morrison, Jack Swagger, Mike Knox Lower Midcard: DJ Gabriel, Ricky Ortiz, Jesse, Festus, Dolph Ziggler, Charlie Haas, Sim Snuka, Tommy Dreamer, Chavo Guerrero, Hurricane Helms, Boogeyman Jobbers: Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Scotty Goldman, Jamie Noble, Curt Hawkins, DH Smith, Jimmy Wang Yang, Funaki, Ryan Braddock, Zack Ryder, Paul Burchill, Divas: Beth Phoenix, Candice, Jillian, Kelly Kelly, Layla, Melina, Mickie James, Maryse, Brie Bella, Eve, Maria, Michelle McCool, Natalya, Nikki Bella, Victoria, Alicia Fox, Katie Lea Burchill, Tiffany I changed this up a little to fit my own opinion. Thanks for the work done to list the names down. I added an Upper and Lower midcard to seperate some names. To defend some ideas, Benjamin is an upper midcarder to me because of his US reign and the slow move he's had up the card (Given a lengthy match with Taker where he escaped from finishers is a nice step). Regal's drive to make the IC title more important including the tournament just to face him makes him feel like an upper midcarder. Yes, I'd say that Punk would become one when/if he wins the title. Punk already is an upper midcarder.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jan 10, 2009 23:21:02 GMT -5
How is Evan Bourne a jobber and Scotty Goldman a midcarder?
Bourne has won double the matches Goldman has even had.
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