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Post by SickFlipPiledriver on Mar 11, 2009 8:16:08 GMT -5
Who cares if Cena blackmailed Vickie?
What has Vickie EVER done that makes anyone feel sorry for her? She's screwed over Edge's opponents at every opportunity and is just a generally unpleasant person.
I dunno, I thought the reveal was funny and thought Cena was awesome and didn't come across heelish at all.
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Post by Robbymac on Mar 11, 2009 8:21:24 GMT -5
Thing is I can sympathise with HHH as he left Orton alone until he RKOed his wife. He wants to get revenge on Orton but Orton hides behind lawyers, doctors and will only fight him when he has Legacy behind him. But Cena, no. He blackmails his way into the match and when he gets want he wants he reveals the tape anyway. That's just being a dick. After all Edge and Vickie have done for the past year or more, they have it coming in wrestling logic.
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Post by Robbymac on Mar 11, 2009 8:23:00 GMT -5
Who cares if Cena blackmailed Vickie? What has Vickie EVER done that makes anyone feel sorry for her? She's screwed over Edge's opponents at every opportunity and is just a generally unpleasant person. I dunno, I thought the reveal was funny and thought Cena was awesome and didn't come across heelish at all. This, people try so hard to justify why everyone should boo people they don't like that they sit around and concoct things like "OMG, HE SHOULD BE THE HEEL, LOOK WHAT HE DID!!!" Completely ignoring what the actual heel did to cause the babyface to act like this in the first place.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Mar 11, 2009 8:29:26 GMT -5
Faces have always been assholes. Its why I grew up cheering the heels.
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Post by Loki on Mar 11, 2009 9:27:30 GMT -5
Sorry, but that's how wrestling has always worked...
The Top Face is allowed to act like a total tool because his actions are directed toward a heel, who is usually an even bigger tool, and has been bringing it upon himself with his actions.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Mar 11, 2009 9:51:15 GMT -5
Sorry, but that's how wrestling has always worked... The Top Face is allowed to act like a total tool because his actions are directed toward a heel, who is usually an even bigger tool, and has been bringing it upon himself with his actions. Kind of like real life. Assholes against Bigger Assholes. CHOOSE. A. SIDE.
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Post by Miss RKO on Mar 11, 2009 10:15:12 GMT -5
The McMahons have been generally evil and backstabbing over the years why would anyone feel sorry for them? The family spent many years trying to destroy itself but suddenly we're meant to be be all "awww poor Vince" when fact is, he had it coming
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Mar 11, 2009 10:16:26 GMT -5
Well still, Orton attacked a woman. That kinda trumps everything.
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Post by Miss RKO on Mar 11, 2009 10:18:15 GMT -5
Steph was a bit silly getting into a ring with someone unhinged who had punted her dad and brother, common sense would suggest she shouldn't have gone in there. Shane's a big boy now he doesn't need someone to hold his hand.
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 11, 2009 12:39:08 GMT -5
Thing is I can sympathise with HHH as he left Orton alone until he RKOed his wife. He wants to get revenge on Orton but Orton hides behind lawyers, doctors and will only fight him when he has Legacy behind him. But Cena, no. He blackmails his way into the match and when he gets want he wants he reveals the tape anyway. That's just being a dick. After all Edge and Vickie have done for the past year or more, they have it coming in wrestling logic. So, after months of being controversial and getting the gold by screwing others, it's justified that the ex-champion can go around and air candid videos of his opponent's wife having an affair with a seven foot giant? What Punk did to Edge is much more justifiable than this. It just makes Cena look like an asshole.
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Post by Miss RKO on Mar 11, 2009 12:40:10 GMT -5
Why can Undertaker beat up a girl, get cheered yet if Orton does it he's the devil? How in the hell does that make any sense?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Mar 11, 2009 12:44:57 GMT -5
It's been this way for DECADES. Hogan used to pull excretory matter and whine about losing all the time, He pulled Sid out of the Rumble just because Sid eliminated him. Austin beat up EVERYONE, Even people that just saved him from a 4 on 1 beating! What a jerk. It went on in the NWA as well, it wasn't enough for Dusty and friends to win, they wanted to beat down and injure the Horsemen, which they did to Tully and I believe Ole in 86. Basically as long as it's happening to the hated heels, then it's ok. That's how it's been for years.
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Post by Ragnal on Mar 11, 2009 12:48:22 GMT -5
Why can Undertaker beat up a girl, get cheered yet if Orton does it he's the devil? How in the hell does that make any sense? Which is part of my point. People are cheering for Triple H for breaking into Orton's house, but if things were vice versa, Orton would be the one getting booed.
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Post by Gregor-2012 on Mar 11, 2009 12:51:16 GMT -5
Survivor Series 2000. Austin drops a car from about 15 foot off a forklift, with Triple H inside. Gets cheered.
UNBELIEVABLE
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Post by Miss RKO on Mar 11, 2009 12:52:17 GMT -5
Why can Undertaker beat up a girl, get cheered yet if Orton does it he's the devil? How in the hell does that make any sense? Which is part of my point. People are cheering for Triple H for breaking into Orton's house, but if things were vice versa, Orton would be the one getting booed. I guess cuz Randy touched his wife all bets are off i guess..
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Post by Branimal on Mar 11, 2009 13:16:25 GMT -5
It's kind of hard to feel bad for Edge based on the fact that he was involved in an affair with his "friend's" longtime girlfriend, Lita, about 4 years ago. Also, he cheated on Vickie with their "wedding planner" last summer.
On the subject of Hogan, if you actually go back and watch Hogan's matches in the '80's, he competed like a HUGE heel. Eye gouges, slamming legs/arms/heads into the ring post..etc.
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Post by taylorandborland on Mar 11, 2009 13:20:13 GMT -5
Edge already cheated on Vickie half a year ago. She was probably holding that over his head for months. What Cena did was save Edge from a lifetime of dirty looks and cold shoulders--he probably hadn't gotten any since he lost the title back in June.
Cena is the ultimate hero.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Mar 11, 2009 13:34:02 GMT -5
Edge seems like he should come out the face in his whole situation.
Also, watching the SNME dvd, the faces cheated even more than the heels then it seemed. And vince is a f***ing awful announcer
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Post by Johnny D on Mar 11, 2009 13:39:04 GMT -5
The HBK/Y2J situation p*ssed me off. Jericho was completely in the RIGHT in that situation yet the fans see fit to cheer Micheals over him. Unbelievable, or maybe not since the fans are probably assholes too.
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Post by 4real on Mar 11, 2009 13:43:29 GMT -5
Well still, Orton attacked a woman. That kinda trumps everything. Yeah because HHH never attacked her or anything.
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